Quebecois Sources for Saint-Paul-d'Abbotsford / Rouville marriage in 1856?

Question

The marriage date of Trefflé Benoit and Philomene Bernard is given by other researchers as September 23, 1856 in Rouville, Quebec. I see that Saint-Paul-d'Abbotsford was organized in 1856 and parish registers for Saint-Paul-d'Abbotsford at FamilySearch begin in December 1856 on FamilySearch. 

I can't find Trefflé's baptism or marriage record in Drouin or Tanguay on Ancestry. Where might other researchers have found this exact marriage date in 1856? I would love to add a source for it. What parish would have served residents in the Saint-Paul-d'Abbotsford area before December 1856?

 

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I didn't find the marriage in the Saint-Nom-de-Marie register in Saint-Marie-de-Monnoir. I looked around this page:

"Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-28024-3463-2?cc=1321742&wc=9RLJ-C66:24445701,24445702,25236301 : accessed 18 February 2015), Sainte-Marie-de-Monnoir > Saint-Nom-de-Marie > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1847-1860 > image 370 of 570; nos paroisses de Église Catholique, Quebec [Catholic Church parishes, Quebec].

 

 

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I didn't find the marriage in Notre-Dame-du-Rosaire in Saint-Hyacinthe around this page:

"Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-28028-4912-49?cc=1321742&wc=9RLV-7M3:21019501,17174802,14145803 : accessed 18 February 2015), Saint-Hyacinthe > Notre-Dame-du-Rosaire > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1853-1876 > image 117 of 724; nos paroisses de Église Catholique, Quebec [Catholic Church parishes, Quebec].

 

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I didn't find the marriage in Saint-Césaire near this page:

"Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-28022-27083-72?cc=1321742&wc=9RLN-3TG:19326001,19326002,19908801 : accessed 18 February 2015), Saint-Césaire > Saint-Césaire > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1853-1865 > image 233 of 610; nos paroisses de Église Catholique, Quebec [Catholic Church parishes, Quebec].

 

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I thought I would try Saint-Charles-sur-Richelieu since his parents married there, but no luck finding Trefflé and Philomene's marriage around this page:

"Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-28023-37666-81?cc=1321742&wc=9RLN-BZ3:19360501,19341402,19755801 : accessed 18 February 2015), Saint-Charles-sur-Richelieu > Saint-Charles > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1833-1868 > image 470 of 695; nos paroisses de Église Catholique, Quebec [Catholic Church parishes, Quebec].

 

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Karen.  I love how you are answering yourself here.  Just love it!  Keep up the good work and I hope you can pat yourself on the back too!  Mags

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Thanks, Mags, for saving me from talking to myself all day. I found Trefflé's baptism, but would still like help finding his marriage as that would confirm that Joseph Trefflé Benoit, son of Amable Benoit and Elizabeth Vasseur, is the same Trefflé that married Philomene Bernard. Here's the baptism:

Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-28024-27902-87?cc=1321742&wc=9RLJ-C6F:19360501,19341402,19360502 : accessed 18 February 2015), Saint-Charles-sur-Richelieu > Saint-Charles > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1786-1833 > image 525 of 601; nos paroisses de Église Catholique, Quebec [Catholic Church parishes, Quebec].

Answer 1

Marriage of Trefflé and Philomène.  St-Jean-Baptiste-de-Rouviljle on 1856-09-23.

Source:

"Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-28024-28206-84?cc=1321742 : accessed 19 February 2015), Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979 > Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979 > Saint-Jean-Baptiste > Saint-Jean-Baptiste-de-Rouville > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1840-1876 > image 393 of 697; nos paroisses de Église Catholique, Quebec [Catholic Church parishes, Quebec].

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Mille fois merci! I missed this church, and it even has Rouville in the name. It is such a joy to have generous and knowledgeable researchers like you in our tree.

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Welcome :)

Answer 2

Guy has the correct data, further data on the marriage as follows:

Bridegroom's parents Amable Benoit and Élisabeth Vasseur (both deceased prior to that date), had been residents of St-Charles-sur-Richelieu parish.  He is of age when he marries

Bride's parents Antoine Bernard and Marie Anne Lemonde, both resident of St-Jean-Baptiste-de-Rouville parish.  She is a minor when she marries.

Present at the marriage were Augustin (Charon? hard to read) grandfather of the groom and Jean-Baptiste Oude (sic, probably Houde), cousin of the bridegroom;
Antoine Bernard father of the bride and (illegible first name) Bernard brother of the bride, as well as many other family and friends some of whom have signed with the bride, the groom and others not being able to sign
signatures include Philomène Bernard and Octave Plante

All above from  Quebec, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 (direct access to Drouin institute records.)

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Great Danielle :)