What would you think of this change to the Photo of the Week?

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Hi WikiTreers!

At the moment, one of the requirements for a photo to be nominated for Family History Photo of the Week is that it has to have been uploaded in the last 2 weeks.  Recently uploaded photos can be looked through here: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Special:NewImages

We're thinking that we ought to change it so that any photo can be nominated as long as :

  • The photo has been uploaded to WikiTree
  • It's a single, non-cropped photograph that includes a person or people.
  • It's an original family photograph. It should not be scanned from a printed source or copied from another website.
  • The quality of the image is important. Many photos are wonderful but they weren't scanned at a high-enough resolution. The height or width should be at least 500 pixels. More is better.
  • There cannot be copyright disputes.

What do you think?  Would you be more likely to nominate photos if we made that change?  

 

Are there other changes that would make you more likely to participate and nominate photos? 

 

Thanks for the feedback!

 

in The Tree House by Eowyn Walker G2G Astronaut (2.5m points)
If anyone would like assistance to enhance the quality of an image, please contact me and I will be happy to do what I can.  Although I am not a professional graphic artist, I am very often able do a good deal of enhancement to clarity and removal of creases and/or blemishes.
Hi Eowyn,

I think it's a good idea.  It would allow for some photos to be re-nominated.  If two or more fantastic photos were uploaded in the same week, this would allow for them each to be recognized as winners of the contest (on different weeks).
Yes please.  The best photos that exist should get another chance.  Here's a comparison.  If a museum had the same rule regarding art as the Wikitree presently does regarding Photo of the Week.  In one week the Louvre donates The Mona Lisa and The Statue of David.  And one of those would win.  Next week a young British Artist donates a conceptual piece called "Dirty Clothes on a Bed in a Messed-Up Flat" which would win.  So then when an exhibition happens showing the displays in the museum that have won the prize either the Mona Lisa or The Statue of David would be in the basement and "Dirty Clothes on a Bed in a Messed-Up Flat" would be right up there next to the other.  That's almost unfair and can't be the best way to show off the treasures! :D
Wow! I kindda like the idea of a two month limit. I see Photo of the Week as a portal to new particapants. When we are able to pull up new submissions we are able to offer suggestions that would be lost on a dead profile. Also I agree with my cousin GiGi. I aint gotta picture of my great grandpaw but I got a picture of his hat rack. Every contest should be an educational tool.

7 Answers

+12 votes
HI, Keith and all!

Forgive me my Luddite ways! I haven't yet been able to load a Photo Of the Week into the site for nomination. The problem (and yes, I risk exposure as an elderly librarian who has not yet mastered the idiosyncrasies of my MacBook Pro) is that I cannot seem to download selected photos into the "answer" section.

Were I to be working with my old HP, right-clicking would be easy. I could then upload according to instructions. But I'm not. So...though I've tried for several weeks, no nominated photos have yet to be placed into candidacy.

My suggestion is that one of you young whippersnappers among the Wikitree coders place a button next to each photo. Pressing this button will (hopefully) automatically enter the candidate into the current photo contest.

Possible? Sure hope so. I think you'll get a lot more nominations and stir up a lot more interest in this fun activity!

Sign me, "Little Old Librarian"
by Dorothy Coakley G2G6 Pilot (185k points)
Whippersnapper. what a great word!  I like Luddites.  Earth needs Luddites!  There should be a Luddite political party.
Great suggestion, Dorothy. I think we should try to figure out a way to do that.
Added to the to-do list!
Shucks, guys 'n gals. Tweren't nothing. "Ideas" take but a twinkle of time. "Outcomes" take brainpower, chutzpah and fortitude.  This you have.

HOORAY FOR WIKITREE!!
Just clicking a button would be wonderful - I've not been able to nominate photos either. Each time I think I've followed the directions, but how I interpret what I read must be different than what the writer is saying. Can't get my vote to register in Google+ either - so glad that we can vote here in G2G.

And to the original question, yes being able to nominate older photos would be great,for the folks that can nominate a photo. Look forward to being among them one day :D
I know this is already on the "to-do list" but I just wanted to chime in and say this is a great idea. I have had problems nominating pitures also.
Thanks, Bill! Seems like the i"sparse interest" in nominating pictures is based upon the uploading process rather than lack of interest in partiipation. Over to you Eowyn and all..

"Eowyn and all" ...Thank you for everything that you do! You folks are terrific!

THANK YOU!  THANK YOU!  THANK YOU!  THANK YOU!  I, too, have TRIED and TRIED to submit and not succeeded yet.  I thought it was just ME...and old retired school teacher!  I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT POSSIBLE.  EVERYONE ELSE SEEMS TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.  WHY CAN I NOT SUBMIT.  You don't need to answer that.  Please, just try to follow up on this suggestion.

+14 votes
I like the idea of being able to nominate photos that have been uploaded at anytime in the past. There have been times when I've run across a photo and thought it would be a great photo of the week, but it didn't meet the time requirements. I also like the idea of making it easier to nominate a photo with a "nomination button" or something.
by Sabrina Combs G2G6 Mach 2 (20.1k points)

I agree with Sabrina about nominating any photograph at WikiTree as long as it was not nominated before....smileyAND A NOMNATION BUTTON ? Non ? eh ?

+4 votes

Per Keith Hathaway I am putting this here:

Each week I get two G2G messages, one says Time to Nominate Photos and one says Time to Vote for Photos. This is clear enough, but if I click on Time to Nominate Photos I see a group of photos that have been already nominated and the page allows me to vote for my favorites. The list is not complete yet, but without thinking about it too much I go ahead and vote for one or more. Later, when I get the Time to Vote message my brain tells me that I have already voted and I ignore it. I admit that this is relatively stupid behavior, but I don't think I am alone because I notice that the first to be nominated tend to get the most votes. Perhaps there is a way to restrict voting until the nomination process is complete. Just a thought.

by Henry Chadwick G2G6 Mach 5 (55.6k points)
Agree with your observations, Henry. Many is the time that I've "voted" for a candidate from a previous set of nominees. Sometimes I even "campaign" this candidate by adding pithy observtions to their photo. (Only to discover that long ago in a distant galaxy, this person has already been selected winner. Or plain old nominee.)
+4 votes
Although, I think the suggestion for a change is ok. This is not the problem as I see it with photo of the week.

The problem, as I see it, is that it is time consuming to look through the photos. Click on Previous page, get 20 photos of gravestones, waste of time. Click on previous page, get 20 photos of documents, waste of time. Click on previous page, get 20 photos, only two of which are even vaguely acceptable. And the pages go on and on and on, I've spent 1/2 an hour looking and found no photo that I would bother to nominate. Then I go do something more productive.
by Anne B G2G Astronaut (1.3m points)
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Just seems to me that we should place as much value on family artifacts as we do on family photographs. Grandpa's old pipe from 5 generations back should be as valueable as any photo from the 1800's. Wikitree encourages people to even add dogs and cats if they are valued by the family so why not a marriage bond from the 1700's?

If you have an orginial copy of a will or document of historical importance why not have everyone's attention brought to it?

It is recorded that a grandfather of mine was given a jacket by George Washington. They were friends and exchanged them before George moved away. Would a photo of that jacket be less apealing that an old wagon with oxen?

Why would someone like me share old things that will one day have great value if it is to be treated like rubble in the wikitree community? After all someone places value on it today so go to the trouble to upload it.

The sad truth is that projects like Photo of the Week are entirely to complicated for those not familiar with the Wikitree system to utilize.  They don't know how to upload, tag, or follow through on it. I nominated a photo and it was kicked because I didn't know how to tag it properly.

Why not just have a G2G page where people can list interesting things they upload. That way if I am interested in old clothing I can click a link to a piece someone posted. Same for family photos and documents.

I uploaded a letter from Bill and Hillary Clinton to my Grandmother on her 105th or 106th birthday I can't remember exactly which birthday. This will interest my Grandchildren one day I hope. It isn't something I would want to nominate but it is interesting. I dare say not many people have such an item. Point being what isn't particularly of interest when wading through the slog of others documents and headstone pictures is that one day they will have historical value to everyone not just one or two.

I am of the opinion that NOTHING anyone takes the time and effort to contribute is a WASTE of time. That is just me though.........
by Gigi Tanksley G2G6 Mach 4 (44.2k points)
That sounds like a good idea. (I don't know how to do it enough to explain it but I think if you uploaded an image of something interesting onto the g2g it would be OK as far as I know.  The question could be, "Hey, has anyone seen this?"
We could have a new tag for things like this.  Something like family_heirlooms or family_treasures?
How about? "From Back Then....." ?
+5 votes
I think the photo should be of a person or group of people and not such things as flags gravestones etc.
by Chris Thackray G2G3 (3.0k points)
Sometimes that's all you have- a tombstone picture. I think that's better than nothing for the profile. But not Family Photo of the Week, however there are some pretty unique headstones!
+5 votes

Now that you can easily share photos here to G2G we should consider other changes to the Photo of the Week contest. (See this separate post for a summary of the new feature. It's basically what was suggested by Dorothy below.)

My thinking is that we should consider all the photos that have been shared that week as nominees.

Voting would be done by votes on the G2G post [example]. Rather than posting the nominees as answers to a G2G question on Wednesdays and voting the answers up or down, we'd just use the votes on the post where the photo was shared.

They would all be collected on the tag page: http://www.wikitree.com/g2g/tag/photos

We could continue to use photo_of_the_week instead of photos as the tag. My thinking for using photos is that it's simpler and takes the pressure off sharing-to-nominate. Some people might not feel confident nominating for Photo of the Week. They just want to share their photo. We'd be making nomination less formal. Sharing would be nominating.

Similarly, voting would be more organic. People wouldn't necessarily think of themselves as voting for Photo of the Week. They're just up-voting a G2G post where a member shared a photo.

At the end of the week, Eowyn would still create a Facebook gallery for the nominees, so there's another avenue for sharing and voting. If more than a dozen or so photos were shared that week, she could just include the top 10 or 12 vote-getters in G2G.

Members who love photos could still be selecting from the New Images gallery and sharing good photos. We'd need to do that if members aren't sharing their own photos.

If members do share their own photos, a benefit of these changes could be to make Photo of the Week more about the stories behind the photos, rather than just about the raw image. If someone shares the background and/or it spurs discussion, the post would be more likely to get up-votes and end up as the winner.

by Chris Whitten G2G Astronaut (1.5m points)
Chris this is great. Thanks to you, Eowyn and everybody else that made nominating pictures so much easier, and of course Dorothy for the suggestion.

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