Monday Mashup! (19 October 2015)

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Hi WikiTreers!

Did you have a good weekend? Find any cool ancestors? Break any brick walls? New places to search for records? Now that it’s Monday and time to get back to the grind, here’s a few things you might have missed last week to help get you going:

http://www.wikitree.com/blog/monday-mashup-19-october-2015/

Ambassadors, this would be a great post to share on your social media sites :) 

Answer 1

Listened to a talk about the 40th Anniversary of the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald in Lake Superior. The talk will be repeated 29 times in honor of the 29 crew members who lost their lives durning a severe November storm.

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Wow. Do you happen to have a link for the talk? We ought to see if we can get all their profiles on WikiTree in November.

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Eowyn,

You can try the National Museum of the Great Lakes at

www.inlandseas.org

Answer 2

I spent most of Sunday researching and emailing with a new cousin, we shared on Gedmatch (5 individuals) and the relationship is very close. We found many things, puzzles, folks who disappear and reappear.  They live on the same street.  We have lots of information, but cannot connect (yet).  Nice way to spend the day and nice to make a new friend/cousin.

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That's awesome Kristina! I'm really enjoying some of the DNA connections I've made recently.  Who did you test with?

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My husband, brother, granddaughter and I tested with 23andme.  I have uploaded my results, granddaughter's and husband 's to Gedmatch.  The matches are my husband and granddaughter to a woman, her uncle, and her cousin.

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Search for me on 23andme if you want -we can see if we share genomes!

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Sent you an invitation.

Answer 3

After last Monday's mash-up, I uploaded my DNA data to the new DNA.land site and I got my Ancestry Report (fairly quickly) and my Relative Finder report (a few days later). The Ancestry Report has large discrepancies from what 23andMe says about me:

23andMe (speculative-level assignments)

100% European

Northwestern European

• 42.0% British & Irish
• 20.9% French & German
• 0.8% Scandinavian
• 31.7%  Broadly Northwestern European

Southern European

• 1.3% Italian
• 0.3% Broadly Southern European
• 0.2% Ashkenazi

2.9% Broadly European

< 0.1% East Asian & Native American

DNA.Land

• North/central European (74.38%) - map shows British Isles, Germany, Netherlands, and most of Scandinavia
• Ashkenazi/Levantine (10.49%) - mapped as Poland (?!)
• North/east European (8.85%) - Finland, most of eastern Europe, Russia
• Southwestern European (6.16%) - map shows France, Spain, and Portugal
• Other (0.12%)

And the DNA.Land Relative Finder didn't find me any relatives yet. None of my close relatives are there yet, but the lack of more distant relatives is a bit of a surprise, given the large number of 4th-cousin-level matches that both gedmatch and 23andMe report for me).

The 23andMe ancestry report is generally consistent with my genealogy, but DNA.Land's Ashkenazi/Levantine and Eastern European components don't fit. I'm curious to know the basis of the DNA.Land ancestry (they haven't published that information yet). Maybe it's based on more ancient ancestry, before migrations of peoples that occurred over a millennium ago.  I'm also wondering whether DNA.Land switched my data with someone else's!

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I did the same thing DNA.Land has only found 1 relative for me so far, a 4th cousin level match.  They've only had about 7000 people join though, I think, so I expect more as more people hear about it.

Here's my break down from 23andMe and DNA Land:

23andMe (Speculative)

81.4% European

Northwestern European

• 25.6% British and Irish
• 6% French and German
• 0.3% Scandinavian
• 12% Broadly Northwestern European

Southern European

• 13% Iberian
• 1.8% Italian
• 0.2% Sardinian
• 16% Broadly Southern European
• 6.3% Broadly European

9.6% East Asian & Native American

• 6.9% Native American
• 0.1% East Asian
• 2.5% Broadly East Asian and Native American

6.6% Sub-Saharan African

• 5.4% West African
• 0.7% Central and South African
• 0.5% Broadly Sub-Saharan African

0.7% Middle Eastern and North African

• 0.4% North African
• 0.2% Broadly Middle Eastern and North African

(PS - Ellen, 23andme shows we share DNA on one segment , the X :) )

 

DNA.Land 

• North/Central European 37.87%
• Southwestern European 29%
• Ashkenazi/Levantine 10.44%
• Native American 9.11%
• Other 13.58% 

Aside from the Ashkenazi, mine isn't too far off. 

 

 

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Oh boy am I BORING! I added mine.

No relatives found, "Unfortunately, we do not have any matches for you in our database."

And my amazing mix?

• North/central European (98.59%)
• Other (1.41%) (on my FamilyTree DNA this was Scandinavian) - from the DNA.land map it is Iceland and Svalbard (Norwegian archipelago between mainland Norway and the North Pole).

This may explain the biggest goal I have. To travel into the Arctic Circle to watch the Aurora Borealis. I am getting closer!

Boring Mags
 

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DNA.Land posted this to their Facebook page: 

Dear DNA.Land users,

Thanks for helping testing our website in this beta phase. We understand that several users expected to have close matches (e.g. parent, duplicate sample, etc...) but had an empty relative finder report. We would like to get as many examples as we can have, so we can better understand the issue. Right now, these issues are scattered in multiple posts responses.

If this is OK with you, please send us a private Facebook message with as many details as possible (why you expect to have a relative match, who is the other person, emails, etc). Please start the message with the following line: '=match empty=' so we can flag your message as connected to this issue.

We will do our best to fix these issues in a timely manner. We highly appreciate your help and time to improve DNA.Land!

Thanks a lot,
Jie Yuan and Dr. Yaniv Erlich

https://www.facebook.com/knowyourgenome

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Congratulations, Mags, you have confirmed the boringness of your ancestry. I expect to be boring, so my results are very confusing.

Eowyn: Based on that message from DNA.Land, I guess you and I need to report our X-chromosome match that DNA.Land didn't pick up. However, I've been meaning to write to you about that X-chromosome match. It's on a patch of X where I have 8 matches (of varying lengths) with people who aren't yet genealogically identified as relatives of mine (including you). You match with 4 of the other 7 people (also you match with my sister and my son), but not with the other 3. I think there must be something "funny" about that segment of X, but I don't know how to go about investigating my hunch. One oddity is that 23andMe and Gedmatch start and stop our match at essentially the same addresses, but 23andMe says we match on 14.4 cM and Gedmatch says it's 18.3 cM.

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And this morning, lo and behold I have a single, solitary match. I am not expecting too much with just 7200 Genomes so far. That's 200 more than yesterday!  Mags

Answer 4

Didn't break any brickwalls but I did find a new one.  Unknown-294973,  Mary (Unknown) DeTample (1863 ).  She was born at sea on the way from Ireland.  I have no info yet on her parents.  She ended up in Buffalo, NY.