How can Thomas Fisher be son of John Briggs and then father to another John Briggs? [closed]

Question

In following through on the many John Briggs I came across Thomas Fisher-5192 as a son of John Briggs-397 a PGM profile.

And then in the profile for Thomas Fisher it lists him as the father of John Briggs-1218.

There is no mention of this association or sources for this that I could see.

Certainly seems in error or at least needing documentation.

Comments

It does need sources but it seems normal a child would be named after the grandfather.

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This certainly make sense Vincent. David do you have some information to add to the profile? Be great if this could get sorted out.  Mags

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My point is there is NO source at all for a "Fisher" to be a son of John Briggs, let alone that a "Fisher" is father to a Briggs.

It has nothing to do with naming someone after a grandfather.

John Briggs-397 has a number of children all named Briggs except for this "Fisher".  For some unknown reason, someone has attached Fisher to Briggs with not source or explanation that I could see.

I have NO information that would support Thomas Fisher as a son of John Briggs and I believe he should be removed.

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It looks like you have a found a project to occupy a lot of your time in the coming weeks. ;-)

On the change history of that page, I find that a profile for a man named Thomas Briggs was merged into this profile a couple of years ago (click on the link for details). That merge looks like it was a mistake. I can't tell for sure whether the information in the merged-away profile of Thomas Briggs has been properly captured in another profile. Some careful surgery is needed to detach the incorrect relationships, correct the profile(s), and restore lost information.

Another issue: The biography in that Thomas Fisher profile looks like it may have been copied verbatim from The Great Migration. That's a copyright violation. It needs to be rewritten to avoid violating copyright, and the source needs to be properly credited.

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Oops!  You're right, I didn't even look at the last name.  Looks like a merge of a Briggs into a Fisher could provide some information.........

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I'm already occupied with sourcing another Briggs family in my line.  I was hoping someone else might tackle this but I could at least remove the Fisher link which is obviously incorrect.

The person who wrote the Fisher bio should be responsible for fixing the copyright violation.  I have NO family ties to Fisher.

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Collaboration sometimes includes helping other people.

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That is uncalled for.  I have been helping others and your comment is not appreciated.

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I'm sorry. I mistakenly thought you were saying that you aren't willing to work on solving problems in the profile of someone else's ancestor.

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(And I'll just add that it's been my experience that most copyright violations on wikitree profiles originate from dump-and-run Gedcommers who are no longer around to fix their own mistakes.)