Question

Does anyone know if the Aylmer or Elmer family is connected somehow?

Comments

To give a correct answer to this would be to break down the brick wall between Edward Elmer-195 and England. A similar question has been raised about how Elmore came to be out of the Elmer surname. That answer is known. It is only a matter of time before the Elmer/Aylmer puzzle is solved. But I do not have the solution

Bill Elmer-1185 and I am convinced DNA will provide the answer.

Answer 1

John Aylmer was one spelling of a man who was called 'Master Elmer' by his famous charge and daughter of his Patron the Lady Jane Grey. John Elmer/ Aylmer later distinguished himself in the Church of England and served as Bishop of London during the reign of Elisabeth the first. He was ardent on his view and handling of heratics and descentors of the Church. This is odd because his grandson Edward Elmer left England to settle in Hartford CT in 1636 on the 'Lion' with rev. Hooker and a small group of 'desentors' known as Puritans. His lineage includes the Elmore name which seems to have changed with Edward's son or grandson.

So it seems Aylmer is a Saxon name. Lord Grey as well as his daughter Jane wrote the name in a Norman rendering Elmer. A generation or two in America and one line changed it to Elmore. I know this because I married Robert Elmore and he and his uncle John have done extensive research on the family.

Answer 2

We have a family history book that was very well researched by an uncle, before the internet information was available. He is a trained scientist and I beileive the information to be correct, to the best of his knowledge based on extensive research at the time.

According to our book, the Elmer family and the Aylmer family are indeed the same. I have a list of generations going back from my 2nd great grandmother Harriet Elmer (wikitree ID Elmer-114) to Edward Elmer Sr. and then on to the family in England. "The Elmer Family in England" section of our family book goes back as far as the 1450's and includes John Aylmer, Bishop of London.

It would be great if we could work together to get more of this family tree onto wikitree and see the line back that far. I am happy to share all of the information I have from our family book.

Comments

what is the name of this book?

 

I have asked the question regarding Edward Elmer's connection to the Aylmer family and did not get too much new information. It seems we are currently stuck at Edward's parentage. Personally, I feel we should be bold and mark the information as conjecture until new sources are found.

 

Are there any Aylmers that have had their DNA tested?

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Robert,

The book we have is a well documented and researched family book. It is not published. I am happy to share the details from this book.

Jody

Answer 3

It's been a dead end trying to find Edward Elmer-195's English parentage. So I attempted going the other direction from Bishop John Aylmer-30 down to Edward Elmer-195 as family history has suggested. All I proved was that John's children and their children, as far as I could tell, died in England. The exception to this was Elizabeth Aylmer-39: her son Edward Foliot-56 emigrated to The New World and landed in Virginia in 1652 and died in York, Virginia about 1690.

As we have learned, Edward Elmer was rather litigious. The Aylmer family in England were of the same ilk, always in court. Edward could be a chip off the old block.

I feel the search was rather thorough, but, there's always room for improvement. At least the Aylmer family now has a presence on WikiTree. DNA will probably be the final arbiter on this matter.

Answer 4

Yes, I believe it does! Edward who was on the Lyons ship See "PGM" project here in wikitree.  Edward was one of the Founders of Hartford, CT. He was known as both, but he was known on the passenger list as Elmer.. Some generations later also used Elmore and other spellings. Aylmer's from England other then Edward also had adventure in there blood and went also to the down and under and I here Jamaica, others went other directions. Aylmer is the start before England, Edward Elmer in the USA is the next step and Elmore and all the rest. Hope this help some.

Stephen Elmer-1809

Answer 5

Yes, most of us Elmer's and Elmore's believe so. I am one of them working on a way to prove this. There is a link missing from Edward 1 or Elmer 195 and Aylmer-30. I think we have another Edward before Edward 1 son of John Aylmer-30 and Elmer-195. See my tree Elmer-1809 its not for sure and all my sources are not correct format. I am still learning how to do this correctly.