How to format FindAGrave as a source

+13 votes
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When FindAGrave is a source for a profile, what should be its format? 

I've been using the URL With the new FAG Is it still correct to use the URL which now has a different format, e.g., https://www.findagrave.com/memorialxxxxxx ?

On this profile, why was the new format changed by Edit​Bot to

 * {{FindAGrave|111255535}} stating redirect? (now Sources don't list FAG)

 

WikiTree profile: Charles Long
in WikiTree Help by Marj Adams G2G6 Mach 4 (44.3k points)
edited by Marj Adams

Actually, the link was changed to the template by another WikiTreer, who also removed the ref codes for the inline citation. Before that change, yet another WikiTreer had changed the original link to the link style you show above.

EditBot's correction was to standardize the template format by adding capitalization to the first "A" and the "G" in FindAGrave. Just check the 3 edits before EditBot's edits for details on the sequence and particulars of the changes.

The inline citation doesn't appear to have had any additional text associated with it. You just need to add back the ref tags to the template.

Using just the template for inline citations should be within the style guidelines. At the very least, I don't believe it is specifically recommended against being used that way.

Post back if you need help fixing this problem, Marj!

4 Answers

+13 votes
by Doug Lockwood G2G Astronaut (2.7m points)

Thanks Doug. So, to me it says use this format: Find A Grave (http://www.findagrave.com : accessed 11 October 2015), memorial page 22720566, Bertha M. Plunkett Minder (1877–1937), created by "Marge"; citing Salisbury Cemetery, Salisbury, Sangamon, Illinois, USA. 

Is this what you are telling me?

 

If that is supposed to be the format for the citation, why can't the FindAGrave template be changed to produce that format (along with a direct link to the memorial itself)?
That would be one way to do it (probably the correct way). On this site I use [url FindAGrave]

I use the Chrome extension Wikitree X, which adds far more detail to the template. See Help:WikiTree X

+15 votes
You can also use the Find A Grave template:

{{FindAGrave|12345678}} (where 12345678 is the memorial number.) You do not use the pound sign in this template, only the number.

Also, you can look at familysearch and use their citation, which is more complete with information than the template is. The template links directly to the Find a Grave Memorial though.
by Natalie Trott G2G Astronaut (1.3m points)
If you cite FAG as a source, how do you handle errors which have occurred in creating the memorials?  I've noted a few instances where dates or spellings are in error and assume it to be inability to read the old headstone, or a transcription error.  I've also noted that birth records of family members show a given and middle name in one order, yet the FAG memorial reverses them.  In one instance, I know this is because my ancestor reversed them, but the legal record is accurate.
I constantly see this reversal. The legal record has the first and middle names in one order and the headstone reverses them. It's frustrating.

Cinde,If you cite Find A Grave, which I do often, it's not as a primary souce unless there is no other death source available to me. It may still help someone who is searching for a family's death information by providing a small lead. Mostly, it's extra information. The best Find A Grave memorials have sources attached and a photo of the stone, sometimes with GPS coordinates. Knowing that memorials get merged and/or deleted sometimes is frustrating, though. All you can do is note whatever discrepancies you find in the biography.

+9 votes

Being lazy, wanting lots of information, and not trusting URLs to change, I click Source Citation at the bottom of the memorial page, copy and paste that, then copy and paste the memorial number into the template. Example below. When I find something I believe in error, I notify the FindAGrave manager and explain my source.

Example:

Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 30 November 2017), memorial page for Guy Whiting Sands (30 Dec 1872–2 Aug 1925), Find A Grave Memorial no. 66319877, citing Maple Grove Cemetery, Jordan, Onondaga County, New York, USA ; Maintained by KSands (contributor 49289325) . {{FindAGrave|66319877}}

by Kay Knight G2G6 Pilot (597k points)
That's one of the improvements we get with the new Findagrave website. Using a website's ready-made citation is always my first choice.

One problem, though, is that some browsers don't pick up numbered links. Adding the template at least gives us direct access to the individual's memorial.

Excellent fix for that problem, Kay!!
I keep forgetting that the new FAG has a citation at the bottom of the page!
Kay, thank you for your post. I use the same source citation format and was here trying to find out if I was doing it right.
Question: how do you add a hyperlink tag to text within a <ref> tag on Wiki tree like you did with the memorial number in your example?

I tried to add under Sources to the following profile and it didn't seem to work:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hooper-5542

Here is the code I used:

 <ref>Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 08 January 2021), memorial page for C. Lista Baker (20 Sep 1857–25 Dec 1904), Find a Grave Memorial no. <a href="https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/7760356/c.-lista-baker">7760356</a>, citing Maury Cemetery, Richmond, Richmond City, Virginia, USA ; Maintained by Big Tim and Angie Harris (contributor 48441764) .</ref>

Thanks!
Jennifer - you don't use html/css. What you do is get the citation from Find a Grave and format it like this one --

<ref>Find a Grave, database and images (accessed 02 January 2021), memorial page for William Charles Lesslie (1847–1915), {{FindAGrave|170621226}}, citing Rookwood General Cemetery, Rookwood, Cumberland Council, New South Wales, Australia ; Maintained by Grave Finder (contributor 47440664) .</ref>
To use the citation from your post --

<ref>Find a Grave, database and images (accessed 08 January 2021), memorial page for C. Lista Baker (20 Sep 1857–25 Dec 1904), {{FindAGrave|7760356}}, citing Maury Cemetery, Richmond, Richmond City, Virginia, USA ; Maintained by Big Tim and Angie Harris (contributor 48441764).</ref>
Good news Melanie, Kay is now using your suggest and taught me to use it too. If your comment was an answer I could mark it as best. Thanks.
+4 votes
I usually add my references as inline text in the biography section so that they are sorted automatically in the reference section. I don't know if the formatting below with post as I intended, but the FAG link is basically "Find A Grave - Person's Name" where the person's name is hot linked to the FAG profile. Anybody interested in further researching the FAG profile can do so.

Nathan is buried at Salisbury Cemetery, Salisbury, New York.<ref>Find A Grave - [https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/190575922 Nathan Metcalf]</ref>
by David Thomson G2G6 Mach 1 (16.0k points)

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