Mobile Apps for WikiTree

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This is specific to mobile users only.

What would make your mobile experience on WikiTree better? I'm presently developing an app & would like to get some input.

When using your device what areas of WikiTree do you look at the most?

What's the hardest part about using a mobile device on WikiTree?

What would you want included in the app?

Is it hard to use WikiTree with large devices such as ipads?

How could this app best be integrated with the new Global Cemeteries project?  

in WikiTree Tech by Michelle Hartley G2G6 Pilot (167k points)
edited by Tom Shaw
I didn't know there was a mobile app for Wiki Tree on my iPad. I have the ancestry app. Are those the same? I love my mobile app for ancestry and would use a Wiki too. Thanks.
Clara,

There isn't a mobile app yet.
I have an andriod tablet and would LOVE if I could use it to work on things! The hardest thing to do on wikitree on a tablet, is edit the biography... which is what I spend A LOT of my time on here doing!
I would LOVE a WikiTree app!! I have an iPhone4 still so if it is possible to make it so it is compatible with this version of iPhone OS that would be great.

As for the app itself, I would like to be able to view the tree so it is easy to show others (like at a reunion) quickly and visually the ancestor/descendant lines - may times people are more visual and this would be a great feature without a lot of text.  

Adding info quickly when on the go and even a way to add voice files for oral histories etc... would be awesome.

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Best answer
The main thing I view on my Siii is my Family feed.  After that I go to the G2G feed to see if there's any question I might be able to help with.  I Go to my Nav page to show off the tree to a prospective new member. - Mags
by Mags Gaulden G2G6 Pilot (640k points)
selected by Michelle Hartley
Do you have any trouble viewing the G2G on your device?
No. I get everything well.
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I can use all of the features on my Apple devices but I have problems on my Android phone using the pull down menus.
by Joseph St. Denis G2G6 Mach 3 (32.5k points)
The pull down menus are tough for small screens. It is frustrating trying to use the pull downs even on a larger device like a kindle.
I notice that on my iPhone, pull down menus have been replaced with something akin to a scrolling list. So there clearly must be a mobile solution for pull-down menus.
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When using wikitree from my phone - the most difficult can be the 'comparison' - if there is a lot of info for one profile - the screen is split - but the other profile may be waaayyy down the page.
by Michelle Brooks G2G6 Mach 2 (24.9k points)
Michelle,

Unfortunately the split screen will be hard to tackle since it requires so much space. In order for a mobile app to be user friendly on a website such as WikiTree lg. buttons & less content on the page is what helps make it more friendly to mobile users.

I like your idea !
I understand - and an app would be wonderful, most of my research is done from my phone.
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I use both the iphone and the ipad when I am travelling.  A lot of the time I just have the iphone.  Most things work ok with the ipad.  On the iphone it is difficult to scroll through lists of data.  Particularly when the internet is slow and unresponsive.  I am thinking about watchlists, also searching names.  I often tend to load my gedcoms before I travel, then do editing etc when I am away.  Sometime looking at the gedmatches can be a bit awkward, particularly on the iphone, and the site can react badly.  The split screen for merges as someone else mentioned is also hard to work with.

Not being able to upload gedcoms is an issue but I dont think that can be overcome.  I would like to be able to email them to myself before travel then upload them as I go from the email.  I have posted that question before.
by Veronica Williams G2G6 Pilot (214k points)
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  Thanks to our own Paul Bech, the Global Cemeteries intro page has some beginning instructions for taking photos, combining them with GPS data and creating sortable data tables to include on each cemetery's free space page, which is the basic premise of what we're trying to do, so you can go and review that information anytime.

  Yesterday, Chris asked me about the value of integrating functionality into a mobile app that would allow Cemeterists to take and add cemetery/tombstone photos to profiles, straight from the app. My answer was that it would be of great value and would help to draw lots of new users to WikiTree.

  I offered a few suggestions about how to integrate the features of some other apps into our own, but then found that those integrations weren't really feasible, so I turned to a few free and open-source programs that led to some new and even better ideas for taking photos with a GPS-enable cell phone.

  I use an iPhone 5, and I think that's the route WikiTree will be taking initially, but by swapping a few things around, you should be able to do these some of these same things with an Android phone or, with a little additional work, even a point and shoot digital camera.

  I'm going to explain a few of these gizmos the best I can and then leave it to Chris and his crack team of WikiTree programmers and developers to look into whether there might be a way to weave some of the functionality of these programs into a mobile app, or if it would be easier just to use them as standalone enhancements.

  The first step is easy...get out there and take a bunch of cemetery photos.  Go ahead, take a bunch if you like!  When you get back home, upload all the photos from your trip into a folder on your PC.  Next, we need a free, open source program called gPicSync.

https://code.google.com/p/gpicsync/

  Yep, that right, the "g" stands for our friends at Google.  I know some of you try to avoid Google like the plague, but hey, it's free, it doesn't hog a lot of resources and it just plain works!  Before you do anything with gPicSync, though, you'll need to make a decision. You can always change your mind later if you want, but the decision is whether to use an online mapping program (Google Maps) or an installable mapping program (Google Earth) to present your data and imagery.  I should mention here that you're not required to have a Google account to download or use any of these programs, but it sure doesn't hurt!

  My personal preference is Google Earth (GE), but you can generate a substantially less attractive and exciting presentation of your information by using Google Maps. If you've never used GE before, it takes a little time to get used to the ins and outs of using it, but trust me, it would be a good investment of your time to familiarize yourself with it.

   I use it for work all the time, and after a while, I started thinking that it would be a great tool for genealogy (in a number of ways). Unfortunately, I soon found that others smarter than me had realized it's potential long before I did and were already capitalizing on it.

  You may know of Lisa Louise Cooke, a genealogy blogger and podcaster who, among other things, tapped into GE some time ago and now sells a series of instructional DVDs on her website, showing people how to use it for various aspects of genealogical research.  She's doing quite well for herself these days, I'd gather!  :)

   On a side note, I start a Facebook group a while ago for genealogists that know how to (or want to know how to) use GE to enhance their research.  Lisa is actually one of our group's administrators, and doesn't mind helping people out with questions at all.  Of course, you're all welcome to join if you like, here's a link the group:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/gegenealogists/ 

  So anyway, back to work...if you've decided to give it a go, you'll need to download and install GE here:

http://www.google.com/earth/download/ge/agree.html

  Now this is where it gets interesting!  Once GE is up and running, you'll want to open the gPicSync program and tell it to open your folder of photos.  It also asks for a gps file, but since you took your photos with an iPhone, that information (called "metadata) is already built-in to each photo you took.  After tweaking a few settings, lo and behold, you'll have yourself another file that will get shuttled straight over to GE and show you all of your photos, at the exact places you took them, on a beautifully rendered, interactive aerial photograph.

  That should keep you busy for a little while, but when you're done oohing and ahhing over that, don't forget to save the file with the photos as a Google Earth .KML file.  Theoretically, if we can find a way to save both the photos and the KML files somewhere on WikiTree's servers, all of our members will be able to fly right over to the gravesite of any of their ancestors that have been recorded by our Cemeterists, then take an aerial tour around the place that most of them called home right before they passed on!  In addition, they won't even have to download and install Google Earth to do it!  It can all be done from a embedded plug-in that Google offers to free, non-commercial sites like WikiTree.  I guarantee this would be a major "WOW" factor for both new and existing users, but there is still one more slick little trick we're going to talk about.

  Our last upload is another small, free, open source program called KMLCSV which, as its name implies, converts your KML file to a comma-delimited .CSV file that can be opened, edited and added to in a variety of spreadsheet-based programs like MS Excel, Quattro Pro and OpenOffice. So, once your CSV file is open, you'll see column after column and row after row of the metadata we were talking about earlier (dates, times and GPS coordinates), ready to be pulled into one of those nifty sortable tables that Paul is using.  All our Cemeterists will have to do at that point is add names, age at death, birth and death dates and notes. 

  OK, so there you have it...a proposed, possible scenario for a future mobile app and a Cemeteries Project that would easily bring hordes of new users to WIkiTree and leave other online "Grave Sites" like "Ghost Towns"...as long as we can find a way to keep them from copying the idea!  Please feel free to share any thoughts, comments or suggestions you might have that will help make WikiTree the preferred "resting place" for our ancestors' last remaining sources of data. 

  Happy photographing!

by Tom Shaw G2G6 Mach 1 (17.6k points)

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