Why do John Alexander Saunders (1275-1388) and his father, Alexander De Montagu (1250-1296) have different last names?

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When looking at this profile, a couple of things become apparent.

1) The name not only changed from De Montagu to Saunders, it changed from French to English.  Who's the Englishman?

2)  John Alexander Saunders is the only child in the family with all English names.  Everyone else's name is French.

Those are quite the changes, and something to consider.
by Heidi Nead G2G6 (8.2k points)

From what I have been able to find, there was some information at 2 places:

 

1. Saunders of Pentre, Tymawr, and Glanrhydw. little c in a circle Historical Society of West Whales Transactions Volume II, 1913 pages 161-188 (929.3429) international classification code) Saunders of Petre, Tymawr, and Glanrhydw. By Francis Green.

 

2. (from http://ackshunjackson.com/nameorigin.html):

THE ORIGINS OF THE SANDERS IN
SUSSEX AND SURREY, ENGLAND

    The family of de SAUNDRE, SAUNDERS, SANDERS, and SANDARS is of very ancient descent, most probably of Saxon or Scottish origin. Historians claim the surname is the medieval form of the given name Alexander (Alisaundre) meaning “helper of mankind” and gained initial popularity in honor of Alexander the Great.


    When the Normans began using the name Alisaundre in England it rapidly became shortened to Saunders and Sanders. Eventually these two names became surnames rather than given names. “It has been stated by some genealogists that the ancestor of the Sa(u)nders family came over to England in the train of William the Conqueror, and it is quite possible that this may be true, although there is no mention of his name in the Rolls of Battle Abbey. But however this may have been, the Saunders were in the county of Surrey at a very early date, and according to Brayley’s Topographical History of Surrey, Vol. iv., p. 266, they were settled at Charlwood in that county in the reign of Edward II and before that time held an estate at Sanderstead in the same county.

I hope this helps.

 

Thank you, I was wondering this myself!

He is a great grandfather many times over on my maternal side. That is my mothers maiden name
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While the info in the profile may all be correct, the source cited is a tree on Ancestry.com which cites its sources as 4 other trees on Ancestry.com. No actual records are cited.
by Doug Lockwood G2G Astronaut (2.7m points)
Not that this citation is any better, but it has a possible citation, but a different wife

 

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=updike&id=I79940
It could also be magical geneology to link to royalty.

http://markmajor.hubpages.com/hub/My-Tenuous-Claims-to-the-Throne

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