Nuño Bellídez
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Nuño Bellídez (abt. 770 - abt. 830)

Nuño Bellídez aka Belchédiz, Belchides
Born about in Köln, Francia Orientalismap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
[spouse(s) unknown]
[children unknown]
Died about at about age 60 in Reino de Asturiasmap [uncertain]
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Research suggests that this person may never have existed. See the text for details.
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Biography

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Nuño Bellídez, also known as Belchédiz or Belchides, appeared originally in WikiTree as the father of Nuño Núñez de Brañosera, changed to Munio Núñez, who has at times been confused with Nuño Rasura/Rasuella, a legendary Judge in Castile. In WikiTree, he has since been unlinked from the "son's" profile, Saldaña-32. The existence of both Nuño Bellídez and Nuño Rasura has not been validated, they appear in chronicles centuries after their time, but the information is generally handled as legend. An attempt has been made to estimate the dates for Nuño Bellídez in WikiTree because he appears with a profile, but is should be duly noted that by all accounts neither he nor "Nuño Rasura" existed, at least not as ascendants of the famous Castilian, Fernán González.

An article in the Real Academia de Historia about his son is titled "Nuño Núñez de Brañosera". It mentions the name variant "Nuño Rasura" with a question mark, and cites him as a "Legendary Judge of Castile,". The dates given, despite the clear reference to "legend", suggest he was born the first part of the 9th Century and died around 0860. [1] Using this information for his father, Nuño Bellídez's birth date has been estimated @ 0770, calculating he was around 30 yrs old when his son was born around 0800. There is conjecture as to the birth place, but it was possibly in Cologne, East Francia (Köln, Francia Orientalis). [2] His death date has also been estimated, @ 0830, arbitrarily assuming he reached the age of 60, [1] and, since he seems to have lived and died in Castile, in the Kingdom of Asturias (Reino de Asturias). According to the story, while on pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela, Nuño Bellídez met Diego Rodríguez (known 350 years after his death as "Diego Porcelos"), [3] [4] Count of Castile II, and married his daughter, Sulla Bella or Sula Vella. [5]

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However, the problem with this information, apart from the futility of trying to reconcile "legends", is that the previous estimations made for Bellídez, and the tentative dates offered by historian Gonzalo Martínez Díez for Nuño Núñez de Brañosera/Nuño Rasura, are out of sync with the statement. According to the Chronicle of 1344, "Los Linajes", written by the Conde de Barcelos, Bellídez met Count Diego Porcelos in Burgos. [2] If they actually met in "Burgos", that would place the encounter no earlier than 884 when Diego Rodríguez, Sulla's father, founded it, and no later than 31 Jan 885 when he died. [6] The timeline is in direct conflict with other dates such as the birth of their son, Nuño Núñez de Brañosera/Nuño Rasura, abt 800, his death abt 860, and of course the birth and death dates estimated for Nuño Bellídez, based on his son's birth (abt 0770-abt 830). Nuño Bellídez would not have been alive in 884. With this in mind, Nuño Núñez de Brañosera/Nuño Rasura's (legendary) parentage does not hold up with the dates available nor does the marriage between Diego Rodriguez's daughter Sulla Bella and Nuño Bellídez. Bellídez has been unlinked from both Munio Núñez (previously, Nuño Núñez de Brañosera) and Sula Porcelos, as father and husband, respectively.

Nuño and Sulla supposedly had at least two sons, [2] Nuño Núñez de Brañosera/Nuño Rasura mentioned here (great grandfather of Count Fernán González) and Gonzalo Gustios (father of the legendary Seven Infants of Lara). [7]

See the comments in the Research Notes about the legendary components of this genealogy and the major contradictions, apart from the incongruency mentioned above, in the timelines.

Research Notes

The Legend of the Judges of Castile

According to the original profile, Nuño Muñez "Conde de Saldaña" , now Nuño Bellídez, was the father of Nuño Núñez de Brañosera, husband of Argilo, now Munio Núñez, husband of Argilo. The name used before, Nuño Núñez de Brañosera, also known as Nuño Rasura/Rasuella, belongs to a legendary Judge in Castile, who supposedly died around 0860. [1] He WAS NOT the Munio Núñez married to Argilo who granted the charter of Brañosera in 0824 and who was the great-grandfather of Fernán Gonzalez. The two Núñez have been confused in WT (outside of WT as well), i.e., the name in the profile Saldaña-32 has been changed to the real historical figure, Munio Núñez, married to Argilo (not to be confused with Munio Núñez who may have been the former's grandson) and unlinked from the profile Saldaña-33 which has been isolated.

Jueces de Castilla, Arco de Santa María, Burgos, España

The word "legendary" above is not used in the sense of "remarkable" but rather in the sense of "storybook myth". The legend of the Judges of Castile is one of the fundamental mythical narrations of the origins of Castile and its independence from the Kingdom of León. This particular legend integrates other legendary Castilian stories, thanks to the creation of a fictitious genealogy that started with the alleged first two judges - Nuño Rasura and Laín Calvo – and ended, with their respective connections to Count Fernán González and Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar, el Cid. [8]

The legend presents Nuño Rasura as the grandfather of the Castilian Count Fernán González: "Nuño Belchédiz fathered Nuño Rasura, Nuño Rasura fathered Gonzalo Núñez, Gonzalo Núñez fathered the Count Fernán González, who freed the Castilians from the yoke of Leon's domination. " [1] [9] [Nunno Belchídez ouo fillo a Nunno Rasuera. Nunno Rasuera ouo fillo a Gonçalbo Núnnez. Gonçalbo Núnnez ouo fillo al comte Fernand Gonçálbez] [10]

While the legend of the Judges of Castile is that, a legend, the people involved were probably (more or less) real. In WikiTree, the family line is defined differently from the (legendary) list of names indicated above, but the definition (fortunately) is aligned with the succession of Counts of Castile, who appear directly connected to the area of Brañosera through Munio Núñez who first granted the charter of Brañosera with his wife Argilo in 824. Brañosera was one of the first, if not the first, charters in history. Several of Munio's successors further confirmed the charter: Gonzalo Fernández in 912, who reminded the town that Munio Núñez and Argilo were his grandparents (avis meis); Fernán González in 968 who, with his wife Urraca, also referred to his grandparents (avis meis), Munio and Argilo (evidently the term "avis" was elastic since they would have been his great-grandparents); Sancho García in 998. [1] [11] The historian Gonzalo Martínez Díez suggests the following generational succession as almost certain:

  • Munio Núñez (0795-0860 ?) and Argilo
  • Fernando Muñoz (0825-0890 ?)
  • Gonzalo Fernández (0855-0915/0920 ?)
  • Fernán González (0900/0905-0970 ?)
  • García Fernández (0943-0995)
  • Sancho García (0975-1017 ?)

He also mentions that the medievalist Fray Justo Pérez de Urbel attributed the paternity of Fernán González to Count Gonzalo Fernández, rejecting Gonzalo Núñez admitted by the legend of the judges of Castile, meaning that Munio Núñez, and NOT Nuño Núñez de Brañosera/Nuño Rasura, would be Fernán González's ascendant, in sync with the invariable use without exception of the name of the father as patronymic of the child. [1] The family line in WikiTree is almost the same, the exception being with the son of Munio Núñez, who appeared originally as Fernando Núñez in WikiTree instead of as Fernando Muñoz, as on Martínez Díez's list. The name has since been changed from Fernando Núñez to Fernando Muñoz.

WikiTree Family Line

Name fields for Nuño Bellídez

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In WikiTree, the original profile Name, "Nuño Muñez", has been altered to "Nuño Bellídez", with "Belchédiz" and "Belchides" placed in Other Last Names. "Bellídez" has been placed in the Current Last Name. [1] [12] The LNAB "Saldaña" was changed 15 Jul 2019 to "Bellídez". Regarding the title of Conde de Saldaña that appeared initially, the first Count was reportedly Diego Muñoz who died around 0951, i.e., the title cannot be attributed to Nuño Bellídez, and has been removed from the Nickname field. Diego, known as Didacus Munnioz in medieval documents, was the Count of Saldaña, San Román de Entrepeñas and Carrión. He was a noble belonging to the family called Banu Gómez by Muslim chroniclers and probably the son of Munio Gómez. [13]

Nuño Bellídez's in-laws

According to the "Nobiliario del Conde de Barcelos", [5] Nuño Bellídez married Sulla Bella, the daughter of Diego Porcelos (Diego Rodriguez) who was the second Count of Castile.

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The "Nobilario" goes on to say that the son of Nuño and Sulla, Nuño Rasura, was the father-in-law of the "other" judge, Laín Calvo, mentioned in the Judges of Castile legend, and that they were elected judges in 924. [14] [15] The date contradicts the date "known" for Nuño's death in 860. [1] A further contradiction would be the teaming up of Nuño and Laín in the first place since Nuño allegedly died around 0860 while his son-in-law was supposedly born the last third of the 9th Century, and died the first third of the 10th. [9] No attempt has been made to pair these two in WikiTree.

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Back to Bellídez's wife and her family, there are WikiTree entries for the people listed below. They were originally interconnected as daughters, sisters, father, mother, husband and wife, but, because of their conflicting dates, and the fact that no evidence of their direct relation has been uncovered, the initial links in WikiTree have NOT been preserved. Rodríguez-Fernández family members who have been unlinked from one another in WikiTree:


Duplicated Profiles in WikiTree

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Four profiles, Bellídez-1 (was Saldaña-33) &

  • Rasura-1
  • Belchidez-1
  • Belchudes-1

were merged into Bellídez-1 on 15 Jul 2019.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 _ Martínez Díez, Gonzalo, "Nuño Núñez de Brañosera", Real Academia de la Historia, Diccionario Biográfico electrónico (www.rah.es)
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 _ Website Historia del Condado de Castilla: Iglesia Aparicio, Javier, "Nuño Núñez llamado Nuño Rasura o Rasuella.", Historia del Condado de Castilla, 26 Oct 2015 (https://www.condadodecastilla.es/)
  3. _ Martínez Díaz, Gonzalo, "Diego Rodríguez", Real Academia de la Historia, Diccionario Biográfico electrónico (www.rah.es)
  4. _ Website Historia del Condado de Castilla: Iglesia Aparicio, Javier, "Los apodos de los condes de Castilla", Historia del Condado de Castilla, 18 Jun 2014 (https://www.condadodecastilla.es/)
  5. 5.0 5.1 _ Conde de Barcellos, Pedro, "Nobiliario del Conde de Barcelos Don Pedro hijo del Rey Don Dionis de Portugal, traduzido casigado y con nuevas illustraciones por Manuel de Faria y Sousa", Paredes, 1646, p 542 (old 612).
  6. _ WIKIPEDIA: History of Burgos
  7. _ Website Historia del Condado de Castilla: "Los Siete Infantes de Lara" (https://www.condadodecastilla.es/)
  8. _ Website Historia del Condado de Castilla: Iglesia Aparicio, Javier, "La leyenda de los Jueces de Castilla", Historia del Condado de Castilla, 20 Oct 2015 (https://www.condadodecastilla.es/)
  9. 9.0 9.1 _ Martínez Díez, Gonzalo, "Laín Calvo", Real Academia de la Historia, Diccionario Biográfico electrónico (www.rah.es)
  10. _ Website Historia del Condado de Castilla: Iglesia Aparicio, Javier, "El primer fuero castellano: Brañosera, 13 de octubre 824 por Gonzalo Martínez Diez", 13 Oct 2016 (https://www.condadodecastilla.es/)
  11. _ Website Historia del Condado de Castilla: Iglesia Aparicio, Javier, "Brañosera", Historia del Condado de Castilla, 18 Jul 2012 (https://www.condadodecastilla.es/)
  12. _ Crónica Najerense, Tercer Libro (NB: use Find function with Belchédiz , for pop-up
  13. _ Website Historia del Condado de Castilla: Iglesia Aparicio, Javier, "Diego Muñoz, primer conde de Saldaña", Historia del Condado de Castilla, 15 May 2017 (https://www.condadodecastilla.es/)
  14. _ Conde de Barcellos, Pedro, Excerpt: "Nobiliario del Conde de Barcelos Don Pedro hijo del Rey Don Dionis de Portugal, traduzido casigado y con nuevas illustraciones por Manuel de Faria y Sousa", Paredes, 1646, p 542 (old 612).
  15. _ ARCHIVE.org: Argote de Molina, Gonzalo, " Nobleza del Andaluzia ", Fernando Díaz, 1588, pp 129, 223

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Belchudes-1 and Saldaña-33 appear to represent the same person because: Please see the Research Notes in Belchudes-1. Belchudes-1 should be merged into Saldaña-33, leaving Saldaña-33. Thanks!
posted by Bonnie Saunders
Belchidez-1 and Saldaña-33 appear to represent the same person because: Please see the Research Notes in Belchidez-1. Belchidez-1 should be merged into Saldaña-33, leaving Saldaña-33. Thanks!
posted by Bonnie Saunders
Rasura-1 and Saldaña-33 appear to represent the same person because: Please see the Research Notes in Rasura-1. Rasura-1 should be merged into Saldaña-33, leaving Saldaña-33. Thanks!
posted by Bonnie Saunders
not likely, Nuno Munez b.812, was 3yrs old when he fathered Nuno Nunez b.815
posted by Robert Wood

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