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William (Borthwick) Borthwick Second Lord Borthwick (abt. 1445 - 1503)

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William (Borthwick) Borthwick Second Lord Borthwick was a member of Scottish Nobility.
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Preceded by
William Borthwick
2nd Lord Borthwick
abt 1483 - 1503
Succeeded by
William Borthwick

Biography

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William was the eldest son of his father's first marriage to an unknown lady, and born before 1452.[1] It would seem, therefore, that he probably married about 1465-70.

He was knighted, and was one of the Guarantors of a treaty with England on 20 Sep 1484, and one of the Conservators of similar treaties 30 Sep 1497 and 12 July 1499. A Lord Auditor 1484 and 1485; he was Master of the Household to James III, 1485.[2]

William [2nd] Lord Borthwick, as lord superior of the lands of Nenthorn, Berwickshire, granted a charter of them to his second son, Alexander Borthwick, upon the resignation [of the feu] dated 27th June 1495 of James Wilson.[3]

King James IV signed at Edinburgh a Precept dated 31st March 1491 receiving Alexander Borthwick, Master Adam Borthwick, Master Alexander Borthwick, William Hay, James Sinclair and William Dalrymple, as attorney or attornies for Margaret Hay, spouse of William Borthwick, son and heir apparent of [this] William Lord Borthwick, in all negotiations, speeches, suits and quarrels moved or to be moved by the said Margaret.[4]

Although William's spouse is unknown, he had the following issue:

  1. Sir William, 3rd Lord Borthwick, [5] d. 9 Sep 1513
  2. Alexander, m. Margaret, dau. of Lawson of Humbie, d. bef. 17 Aug 1513[5]
  3. Adam, d. after 1505[5]
  4. Agnes, c. 1470 Sir David Kennedy[6]
  5. Catherine, m. Sir James Crichton, of Frendraught, Knt.[7]
  6. Mary, m. James Hoppringle of Galashiels[6]
  7. Margaret b.after 1470, m. Sir Oliver SInclair of Roslin,[6] d. b Nov 1504.

William died on 20 May 1503.[8]

Research Notes

Said to have been knighted by 1468, William, 2nd Lord Borthwick, was a witness of Crown charters, Lord Auditor of Causes, and Member of the Privy Council. He was for a time Master of the King's Household and remained loyal to James III apparently right up to the king's death in the battle of Sauchieburn (11 June 1488) during James's conflict with his son and heir. After the accession of James IV, Lord Borthwick was seldom a witness of Crown charters, but retained his other posts. By this stage, if not earlier, the family possessed land in Selkirkshire, Peeblesshire, Berwickshire, Aberdeenshire, and Edinburghshire, where its seat lay.[9] The third Lord Borthwick's spouse's name is not known. The eldest son succeeded as William, 4th Lord Borthwick (c. 1460–1513?). The DNB (and Anderson) wrongly states he fell at the battle of Flodden.[10]

Cokayne says Mariota Hoppringle was his mother, but James Paul and Burke both say she was his wife, but it is not unusual for the latter two to be identical. Cockayne is more reliable. In any case, the ruling of the Court of Lord Lyon shows that she was his step-mother.[1]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 The Scots Law Times 3rd July 1987 (ISSN 0036-908X), Court of the Lord Lyon - Lord Borthwick, Petitioner, 2 June 1986, p. 6
  2. Cokayne, George Edward, "The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom", London: St. Catherine Press, 1912, Ed. 2 Vol II, Archive.org, pp. 221-22; N.B. Cokayne mistakenly divides the first Lord Borthwick into two different individuals making all subsequent numbers off by one. This has now been corrected by the Judgement of the Lord Lyon reported in the Scots' Law Times 3rd July 1987.
  3. A System of Heraldry &c., by Alexander Nisbet, Volume 2, facsimile edition, Edinburgh, 1984, Appendix page 106.
  4. Calendar of Writs preserved at Yester House 1166-1625 compiled by Charles C.H.Harvey and John MacLeod, SRS, Edinburgh, 1930 no.231, p.88.
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 Paul, James Balfour. "The Scots Peerage : founded on Wood's ed. of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom", Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1905, Vol. II, Archive.org, p. 99
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 Paul, James Balfour. "The Scots Peerage : founded on Wood's ed. of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom", Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1905, Vol. II, Archive.org, p. 107.
  7. The Royal Families of England, Scotland, and Wales, with their Descendants, etc., by Messrs, John and John Bernard Burke, London, 1848: vol.1, pedigree CVII.
  8. Cokayne, George Edward. (1912). The Complete Peerage; or, A History of the House of Lords and all its Members from the Earliest Times (2nd ed., Vol. II, p. 222). London: The St. Catherine Press, Ltd. Retrieved from Internet Archive (Available online); accessed 2 June 2022.
  9. The Scottish Nation by William Anderson, Edinburgh, 1867 edition, vol.ii, p.338.
  10. Attributed to [with minor edits] the New Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford University Press, 2017. Under the terms of the licence agreement, an individual user may print out a PDF of a single article in DNB for personal use.

See also:

  • The Scottish Nation by William Anderson, Edinburgh, 1867 edition, vol.2, p.339, which states he had "several daughters".
  • The New Extinct Peerage, 1884-1971 by L. G. Pine, London, 1972, p.32.
  • Burke, John Bernard, "A Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire", London: Harrison,1866, p. 62




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There have been Borthwick Peerage claims in the House of Lords over a period of 200 years and therefore it is vital that researchers realise this could be a tricky family. It is also vitally important not to be ignorant of the Lord Lyon’s 1986 judgement which found, in law, that the 1st and 2nd Lords in virtually all the directories (as they all copy from one another) was in fact the same person. This obviously alters the numbering.
posted by Gregory Lauder-Frost
Borthwick-270 and Borthwick-167 appear to represent the same person because: Same person.
posted by Gregory Lauder-Frost
I'm trying to clean up Borthwicks and add multiple sources along the way. I've got the first for generations of Borthwicks at least reasonable, I think. But it is a mess right now. Later generation go back in time.
posted on Borthwick-270 (merged) by Marty (Lenover) Acks
What a mess the Borthwicks are. The decision of the Lord Lyon on the lineage seems to have been ignored.

There is no evidence as to places of birth and death, although sometime we know where they are buried.

posted on Borthwick-270 (merged) by Gregory Lauder-Frost
The daughter Agnes is linked to her grandfather William. Her father William Borthwick died on 20 May 1503.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Borthwick,_3rd_Lord_Borthwick

posted on Borthwick-270 (merged) by Kathy (Brown) Lamm
Thanks for bringing this up. I believe that the general consensus regarding William, 4th Lord Borthwick is that he died in 1543 (the tombstone which was very worn was believed to be a 4 and not a 1) and that Balfour Paul was in error. Almost all of Burke's work suggests this and I'm happy to go with NEP. This also what is suggested on wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Borthwick,_4th_Lord_Borthwick. I think though it might be helpful to include a note, pointing out the variation, so we don't get enthusiastic PM changing it all the other way.
Borthwick-386 and Borthwick-270 do not represent the same person because: father and son
posted on Borthwick-270 (merged) by Raymond Eugene Adkins Jr. (1949-2018)

Rejected matches › William Borthwick (-bef.1541)

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