Edmond DePayen (1145)

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Biography

According to an unsourced Ancestry.com file, Edmund DePayen was born in 1145, the son of Hugh de Payen and brother of Thomas Payne I and Hugh DePayen. No documentation has been found to support any of these facts or relationships and therefore his profile has been marked "disproven existence."

Research Notes

Disproven Line of Descent

John Payn, born 1420 is the earliest Payne profile for which there is confident documentation as of October 17, 2018. Because no documentatio has been found for any of the following ancestors of John Payn , they have been marked as disproven and de-linked from parents, spouses, and children.

• Hugh de Payen, supposedly the founder of the Knights Templar, married to Catherine St Clair.
• Thomas I Paine, born 1145, alleged son of Hugh de Paven, and Catherine St Clair. Birth place shown as Market Bosworth, Leicestershire. Supposedly brother of Edmund de Payen and Hugh de Payen, both also born 1145.
• Thomas Paine II, born 1170. Birth place shown as Market Bosworth, Leicestershire.
• Thomas Paine III, born 1200. Birth place shown as Market Bosworth, Leicestershire.
• Thomas Payne IV, born 1245. Birth place shown as Market Bosworth, Leicestershire.
• Thomas Payne V, born 1285. Birth place shown as Market Bosworth, Leicestershire.
• Thomas Payne VI, born 1327. Birth place shown as Somerset. A duplicate profile for Thomas Payne VI shows an additional son Robert Paine, born in 1372.
• William Payne, born 1347, Birthplace shown as Yorkshire.
• John Payne, born Norwich, Norfolk, 1385 married Lady Agnes.

In addition to the lack of any other documentation, the variance of birthplace without explanation from generation to generation is a source of suspicion. In addition, while there was a family of Paynes in Market Bosworth as shown in the Visitations, those shown here preceded by Visitation records by one or more centuries.

Sources

Acknowledgements

• This person was created through the import of Olin LaVern and Darlene Thomas.ged on 14 April 2011.