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Duncan Dún Caillen (abt. 920 - abt. 965)

Duncan (Duncan I MacDonachadh Thane Dull) "Lay Abbot of Dunkeld" Dún Caillen aka Dunkeld
Born about in Atholl, Perthshire, Scotlandmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
[spouse(s) unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died about at about age 45 in Battle of Duncrub, Perthshire, Scotlandmap
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Biography

Had to remove given parents Duncan Duncan and Groa Thorsteindottir to enable needed merges in this family without creating more issues C 23 September 2018

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Biography

The profile represents Duncan Macdonachadh, hereditary lay Abbot of Dunkeld, Archpriest of the Kindred of St. Columba. He was born c. 920 and died 965.[1]

Given by some as son of Duncan and Groa Thorsteindottir. Father of Duncan 949-990 and father of Duncan 949-990. His father was Duncan of Dull, b. c. 890, d. c. 940.[2]

Medieval lands does not name his parents. [3]

He was killed in 965. [4] Duncan was killed in the year 965 His wife may have been a daughter of one of the last Kings of the Isles. [5]

Medieval Lands names no wife nor any child. [6]

The Henry project project believes there is no hard evidence for any of the relationships ascribed to Duncan. [7]

His wife is not known but he is said to have had a son:

  • Duncan, b. 948, and later Duncan, Mormaer of Athol. His son was Crinan (b. 975, d. 1045) who also adopted the hereditary titles hereditary lay Abbot of Dunkeld, Archpriest of the Kindred of St. Columba.

Killed in battle fighting overthrow of King Duff --- records state the hereditary Abbots of Dunkeld, specifically Duncan, killed in 965 AD. were the senior branch of the kin of St. Columba (521 AD- 597 AD) who was descended from Conal Gulban in the 3rd degree (great grandson) thus establishing the Lakeys are also descended of Conal Gulban. Abbot Duncan was descended from Conal Gulban in the 15th degree. [1]

Records from Scotland state the family was in Scotland as early as 650 in the Dumbatton -Loch Lomond area. Duncan, the Heriditary Lay Abbot of Dunkeld was killed in battle in 965 fighting to overthrow King Duff.

The earliest record of the family except for St. Columba, of Iona, was Dunchad (Donnchaddh the 11th abbot of Iona, who died in 717. Donnchahh was the Irish name which became Dunchad and later Duncan. Dunchad Lay Abbot of Dunkeld was born ca 910 and was killed in battle about 965 He had a son, whose name is not recorded, who was hereditary Lay Abbot of Dunkeld. He was born about 945, and was father of Crinan the Thane, born ca 975 and killed 1045

There is great probability that Duncan, Abbot of Dunkeld, who appears at the head of his followers, taking part in a war in support of one of the claimants to the throne of Scotland, [8]was the grandfather of Crinan, the Thane. That Duncan was a lay abbot there seem to be little doubt. His possessions must have been extensive and his power great. ln "Chronicles of the Picts and Scots" we find the following remarks on the subject. The Abbacy of Dunkeld, too, to which a Columban monastery would literally look as its head in Scotland, seems now to have passed into the hands of laymen, and to have been held by a lavy abbot, for we find Dunchad, Abbot of Dunkeld, taking part in a war of Succession between the Kings of Dubh and Cuilean. and being slain in the battle of Duncrub."[9]

Sources

  1. House of Dunbar Part 1. The Rise of the House of Dunbar by Lyle E Dunbar. Duncan Macdonachadh. No sources c2016
  2. No sources offered
  3. Medieval Lands. Scottish Nobility: Mormers of Athol
  4. Medieval Lands. Scottish Nobility: Mormers of Athol
  5. New Douglas Peerage, vol. iii, p. 241 Footnote No. 1
  6. Medieval Lands. Scottish Nobility: Mormers of Athol
  7. The Henry Project: Donnchad or Dúnchad (Duncan, Duchad)
  8. ( Skene's Celtic Scotland (1876). vol. 1, p. 391.)
  9. (Chronicles of the Picts and Scots, p. 329.)

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Dunkeld-86 and Dún Caillen-1 appear to represent the same person because: Clear duplicate
posted by Clyde Perkins
Just an FYI for the managers: the Henry Project link is broken. I'm not pre-1500 certified, so can't fix.
posted by Ashley Jones JD
Donachad-1 and Dún Caillen-1 are not ready to be merged because: profile managers need to complete merge if required
posted by Karen MacDonald
Donachad-1 and Dún Caillen-1 are not ready to be merged because: More research needed
posted by Dustin Smith
The Henry Project website by Stewart Baldwin, cites some primary sources for this person, but note parents, spouse and any children are Unknown.

http://home.earthlink.net/~henryproject/hproject/prov/dunca000.htm

posted by John Atkinson
Macdonachadh Mormaer Atholl-1 and Dún Caillen-1 do not represent the same person because: Dates really off must be meant to be someone else
posted by C. Mackinnon
Donachad-1 and Dún Caillen-1 appear to represent the same person because: Date of death of Donachad-1 makes him Duncan Lay Abbot of Dunkeld. Birth date on this profile is far too early! Dún_Caillen-1 has been chosen as most appropriate LNAB after discussion on G2G. Please merge
posted by C. Mackinnon
Macdonachadh-16 and Dún Caillen-1 appear to represent the same person because: Dún Caillen (Dunkeld) chosen as most appropriate LNAB
posted by C. Mackinnon
Dunkeld-87 and Dún Caillen-1 appear to represent the same person because: Same person, Duncan Abbot of Dunkeld. Dún Caillen (Dunkeld) chosen as most appropriate LNAB
posted by C. Mackinnon
Macdonachadh Mormaer Atholl-1 and Dún Caillen-1 appear to represent the same person because: Clearly meant to be same man. Dún Caillen (Dunkeld) has been chosen as most appropriate LNAB
posted by C. Mackinnon
Donachadh-8 and Dún Caillen-1 appear to represent the same person because: Please merge this empty profile away. Dún Caillen (Dunkeld) has been selected as most appropriate LNAB
posted by C. Mackinnon
Duncan is male, changing gender
posted by C. Mackinnon

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