Gilbert Gamage (aft. 1325 - 1382)

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Died 1382 before age 57 in Gwent, Wales

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Biography

Gilbert de Gamage^[1][2]

Son of Sarah Turberville,^[1] daughter of Payn Turberville,^[3][2] and William Gamage of Rogiet, who was Sheriff of Gloucester in 1325^[1] or 1330.^[4]

Gilbert married Letus, daughter of Sir William Seymour of Pen-hw.^[1]

The son of Gilbert and Lettice, Sir William Gamage, died 27 September 1419.^[5] He had married Mary, daughter of Sir Thomas Rodborough,^[1] and their son Thomas was born c1404 (about 15 in 1419).^[5]

Gilbert died in 1382.^[1]

Research Notes

This Gilbert appears to be the Gilbert, father of William, mentioned in William's IPM, as posted by Niall O'Brien on his blogspot:^[5]

On 30th October 1419 an inquisition post mortem was held at Chipping Sodbury into the property of the late Sir William Gamage. Sir William Gamage died on 27th September 1419 and was succeeded by his son Thomas Gamage who was about fifteen years old. The inquisition found that William Gamage held the whole, or part of, seven different properties in Wales in what are now Glamorganshire and Monmouthshire.[9] One of these places, West End in Caldicot, was acquired by William’s father, Gilbert Gamage in 1381 by grant of King Richard II. The then occupant, Sir John de Sapy, had a grant of the manor for life but was forced to surrender this to Gilbert Gamage.[10]^[5]

[10] Calendar of Patent Rolls, Richard II, 1381-1385, pp. 608, 609^[5]

Birth Place: His son's IPM was held in Gloucestershire and mentions lands in Glamorganshire and Monmouthshire.^[5] Bartrum's chart says that Gilbert's father was "of Rogiet" [in Monmouthshire] and that he was Sheriff of "Gloucs. 1325"^[1] - Wikipedia lists William Gamage as High Sheriff of Gloucestershire in 1330.^[4] Bartrum shows Payn Turberville, Gilbert's maternal grandfather, as Sheriff of "Glam." and living in 1315.^[6]

The birth place datafield had been "Coity Castle, Rogaid, Glamorgan, Wales" prior to May 2023, but Coity Castle is in Glamorgan and Rogiet is in Monmouthshire.^[7] From Payn (Gamage) de Gamage (1211-):

Rogiet spelling (rather than Roggiett or other variation) is in Monmouthshire, as is Llanfihangel Rogiet.^[8]

Coety is in Glamorgan.^[9] Today, Glamorgan and Monmouthshire are adjacent: "The county [Glamorgan] has boundaries with Brecknockshire (north), Monmouthshire (east), Carmarthenshire (west), and to the south is the Bristol Channel."^[10]

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6} Bartrum: Chart for Gamage 1.
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1} Marlyn Lewis. Gilbert de Gamage, entry in "Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors and Cousins" database, citing "Wallop Family, p. 351" (accessed 18 January 2023).
3. ↑ Death date apparently from Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors & Cousins. The merged profile had one source: Ancestry Family Trees: http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=6601291&pid=1495663575
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1} Wikipedia: High Sheriff of Gloucestershire (accessed 23 September 2023).
5. ↑ ^{5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 5.5} Niall O'Brien, Medieval News blogpost "Inquisitions post mortem at Chipping Sodbury in Gloucestershire, 1419-1422", 29 December 2014 (accessed 18 January 2023).
6. ↑ Bartrum's chart for Turberville 1 (accessed 23 September 2023).
7. ↑ See this G2G question/answer. Also, the comment posted 22 February 2017 on this profile by Matthew Fletcher:
   
   

   Coity and Rogaid (Rogiet) are 40 miles apart so birthplace makes no sense.
   
   

8. ↑ Wikipedia: Rogiet (accessed 27 May 2023).
9. ↑ Evan David Jones, "GAMAGE family, of Coety ('Coity'), Glamorganshire", Dictionary of Welsh Biography (accessed 27 May 2023).
10. ↑ Wikipedia: Glamorgan (accessed 27 May 2023).

• Inquisitions PM at Chipping: Sir William Gamage 1419
• Lewis, Marlyn. "Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors" (free database online). Useful for leads; see cautions about use on the Magna Carta Project Reliable Sources page.
• The Bartrum Project, digitization of "Welsh Genealogies AD 300- 1500" by Peter C. Bartrum (mirrored from the defunct Cadair site by Geni: Bartrum Genealogical Project - free login required to access the charts). See additional information about Cadair in G2G.