Baptist Hicks (1524 - 1565)

Born 1524 in Fortesset, Gloucestershire, England

Died 1565 at about age 41 in Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England

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Disputed Origins (and existence?)

His existence, vitals and relationships appear to have originated in Benjamin D. Hicks, “Hicks MSS,” [sic], undated (but sometime between 1867-1880), multi-volume set, edited by Mrs Florence Youngs, available only in hard copy form at the Long Island Historical Society, but excerpted and reviewed by Seversmith (1939). This is the earliest known record of his existence and data. If you have evidence of original birth, marriage, death and offspring records, please share them.

According to this source, the genealogy of the Thomas Hicks' family is as follows:

Baptist Hicks was born about 1524-1526 in Fortesset, Gloucester, England.^{[citation needed]}

NOTE: This Baptist Hicks was born 1524 and was married to Mary Everard. Sir Baptist Hicks was born 1551 and was married to Elizabeth May. Google "Sir Baptist Hicks" for more details. judyorlan @ nventure.com.

Benjamin Hicks (1867-1880) claims he was son of Thomas Hicks and Margaret Atwood, and that he married Mary, daughter of James Everard, Esq., but cites no sources for these claims. The parents have been detached.

Others say he was baptized in Middlesex London Smithfield, Middlesex, England.^{[citation needed]}

We are seeking original sources to confirm the existence, origins, marriage and identity of the offspring of this earlier Baptist Hicks. Smith-32867 10:34, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Supposed Ancestry

Benjamin Hicks was the earliest source of the following:

First Generation

John HICKS, born 1455, Fortesset, Gloucester, England, died 1492, Gloucester, England. John HICKS married Joan DAMER, who was born 1459.

Children:

i. Thomas HICKS, born 1487, Fortesset, Gloucester, England,, died 1525, married Margaret ATWOOD, born 1491, Gloucester, England. Margaret was the daughter of James ATWOOD, born 1465, and his wife, Alicia Payne PARNE, born 1469.

ii. Robert

iii. [a daughter]

Second Generation

Thomas HICKS, born 1487, Fortesset, Gloucester, England,, died 1525, married Margaret ATWOOD, born 1491, Gloucester, England. Margaret was the daughter of James ATWOOD, born 1465, and his wife, Alicia Payne PARNE, born 1469.

Children:

i. Baptist HICKS, born 1524, Fortesset, Gloucester, England, died 1565, England, and married Mary EVERARD, born 1528 (daughter of James EVERARD, born 1500, Fortesset, Gloucester, England.)

• Fact: Christening Tortworth, Gloucestershire, England
• Fact: http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility Plain Old, Nonroyal Baptist Hicks, 1524-1565
• Fact: https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/19526969 This Baptist is not THIS one, but the more famous Sir Baptist Hicks born in 1551.

Thomas HICKS (1487-1525) [Pedigree] Son of John HICKS (1455-1492) and Joan DAMER (1459-) b. ABT 1487, Gloucester, Eng. d. 1525/1526, Gloucester, Eng. Married Margaret ATWOOD (1491-) Children: 1.Baptist HICKS (1524-1565) m. Mary EVERARD (1528-) References: [GENSERV]

Birth Date and Place

• about 1519
• Fortesset, Gloucester, England

Parents

• Thomas Hicks
• Margaret Atwood

Marriage

• Mary Everard
• before 1540

Children

• Sir Baptist Hicks, born 1543
• James Hicks, born 1555
• Robert Hicks, born 1559

Death Date and Place

• about 1565
• Southwark, Surrey, England

Research Notes

In 1939, Seversmith reviewed Benjamin Hicks' manuscript and pointed out that there is NO evidence to support this lineage, and that BDH offered no explanation for this branch. It is all the more unhappy to note that a persistent search in the available Gloucestershire, MIddlesex and London records has not uncovered James Hicks who married Phebe, or Baptist Hicks who married Mary Everard.^[1]

Sources

1. ↑ Herbert F. Seversmith, Colonial Families of Long Island, New York, and New England, 3(c1939):368-383 ably disproves the lineage claims between Robert the immigrant and John Hickes of 1487. See pp 1356-1373; he points out that no marriage record is found for either James Hicks and Phebe [he doesn’t name “Allyn” as her maiden name] or of Baptist Hicks and Mary Everard.

See also:

• Nora Emma Snow, The Snow-Estes Ancestry, (1939), 1:168; see footnote
• Louis E. DeForest, Moore & Allied Families, (1938), pp 295-6; see footnote. https://archive.org/details/moorealliedfamil00defo
• "Family Tree," database, FamilySearch (http://familysearch.org : modified 29 November 2017, 20:17), entry for Baptist Hicks(PID https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/4:1:9VQ3-BZ6); contributed by various users.
• North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000, Book Title: The Frost Genealogy : Descendants of William Frost of Oyster Bay, New York : showing connections. Source Information: Ancestry.com. North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016. See: http://ancstry.me/2AQCWxN.

• Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors; see: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p676.htm#i20302.

• USGenNet online genealogy websites, see: http://www.usgennet.org/family/baicon/data/fam10859.htm.

• Ancestry.com. Middlesex, England, Extracted Parish Records [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2001. See: http://ancstry.me/2iHf19Q.