Mary (Talbot) Nottingham (bef. 1383 - 1434)

Born before 1383 in England [uncertain]

Ancestors

Wife of Thomas Greene — married before 23 Oct 1398 in England

Descendants

Died 13 Apr 1434 after age 51 in England [uncertain]

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Biography

Birth

Mary Talbot was the daughter of Sir Richard Talbot, 4th Lord Talbot, and Ankaret le Strange.^[1][2][3][4] The Inquisition Post Mortem of Mary's cousin, Elizabeth Mowbray, dated 12 September, 7 Richard II (1383), recorded that Ankaret, daughter of Sir John Le Strange of Blakemere, had married Sir Richard Talbot, and they had two daughters Elizabeth and Mary,^[5] so Mary is known to be born before 1383.

Marriages and Children

Mary Talbot married, as her first husband, Sir Thomas Greene^{[3][4][6][7][8]} before 23 October 1398.^[1][2] In the Talbot pedigree in the Visitation of Yorkshire it stated that Mary Talbot married Sir Thomas 'Grey' (but which presumably should read Greene) of whom the Marquis of Northampton is descended.^[9]

They had one son:

1. Thomas Greene, Knt.,^[4][6] born 10 February 1399/1400, died 18 January 1461/2, married Philippe Ferrers and Mary Bellers and had issue with both wives^[1][2]

Thomas Grene, Knight, husband of Mary Talbot, died on 14 December 1417^[7] and his heir was his son Thomas Greene, Knight, age 18.^{[1][2][10][11]}

Between 23 April and 28 June 1418 she (described as Marion, Lady de Grene) was resident with two servants at the Talbot estate of Blakemere, Shropshire.^[12]

She married, as her second husband, John Nottingham, Esq. (or Notyngham)^[3][8] (without a licence) before 25 July 1418.^[1]

"Mary his widow married John Notyngham without licence. They entered the manor of Kegworth against the king’s right and have taken the profits since the death of Thomas".^[11]

Death

Mary died 13 April 1434^[7][8] and was buried at Green's Norton, Northamptonshire.^[1][2][13] The Writ for the inquisition post mortem recorded 18 April 1434 for Nottinghamshire stated, "She died on 13 Apr last." Thomas Greene, Knt., aged 34 or more, was her next heir.^[14]

Monuments

The Greene monuments at St Bartholomew, Green’s Norton, Northamptonshire, now largely destroyed, were described by Halstead in 1685. There was a tomb for Sir Thomas Greene and Mary Talbot. The Inscription was in Latin, a translation of which is:

"Here lies Thomas Greene, Knight, son and heir of Thomas Greene, Knight, son and heir of Henry Greene, Knight, one of the Justices of King Edward Third, and Mary, his wife, the daughter of Lord Talbot, to whose souls may god be gracious. Amen."^[15]

On the side of this was a shield bearing Greene impaling Talbot – argent, a lion rampant gules, within a bordure engrailed of the last.

Mary was also noted on the monument to her grandson at St Bartholomew, Green’s Norton, as follows:

"Here lies Thomas Greene, Knight, Lord of Norton, and Matilda, his wife. The said Thomas was son and heir of Thomas Greene, Knight, Lord of the same, and of Philippa, his wife, who was the daughter of Robert, Lord Ferrars of Charteley, and of Elizabeth his wife, daughter of Lord Thomas de Spencer. Thomas Greene, the father of Thomas aforesaid, was son and heir of Thomas Greene, Knight, Lord of Norton aforesaid, and of Mary his wife, daughter of Richard, Lord Talbot, and of Ankarete, his wife, who was the daughter and heir of Lord Strange of Blackmere. Thomas, son of Thomas and Philippa aforesaid, died on the ninth of September, A.D. 1462; and the said Matilda, one of the daughters of John Throckmorton, Esq., formerly Under-Treasurer of England, died on the …. Of the month of … A.D. 14 … May God be gracious to their souls."^[15]

Research Notes

1. Some internet genealogies state that the wife of Thomas Greene was an Ela Mallory, "Lady of Isham". There is no basis for this assertion.
2. Children Richard Greene, John Greene and Margaret Greene are unsourced were detached as children of Mary and Thomas in Oct 2020.

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5} Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011). Volume II pages 260-261 GREEN 9, Mary Talbot.
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4} Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013), volume III, pages 112-113, GREENE 14, entry for Mary Talbot
3. ↑ ^{3.0 3.1 3.2} Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011), Volume IV, page 169 TALBOT 8.iii, Mary Talbot.
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1 4.2} Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011), Volume I volume I, page 433 CHESELDINE
5. ↑ M. C. B. Dawes, A. C. Wood and D. H. Gifford. "Inquisitions Post Mortem, Richard II, File 32," in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, Volume 15, Richard II, (London: Her Majesty's Stationery Office, 1970), 386-402. British History Online, #1022.
6. ↑ ^{6.0 6.1} John Nichols. The History And Antiquities of the County of Leicester. Volume III, Part II. (London: J. Nichols, 1795-1811). pg 851
7. ↑ ^{7.0 7.1 7.2} Frederick Weis, et al. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700. 8th Edition, 2004. pg 20 Line 14:33
8. ↑ ^{8.0 8.1 8.2} George Baker. History and Antiquities of the County of Northampton. Vol 1. London 1822-1830. pg 32
9. ↑ William Flower, Charles Best Norcliffe, Harleian Society. The Visitation of Yorkshire in the years 1563 and 1564. The Publications of the Harleian Society, Vol XVI, 1881. Talbot Pedigree pg 307
10. ↑ Inquisitions Post Mortem relating to Yorkshire, of the Reigns of Henry IV and Henry V. Baildon and Clay (Eds.). The Yorkshire Archaeological Society. Record Series. Vol. LIX. 1918, p137. IPM Thomas Grene, Chivaler. [1]
11. ↑ ^{11.0 11.1} J. L. Kirby. "Inquisitions Post Mortem, Henry V, Entries 750-799." Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 20, Henry V. London: Her Majesty's Stationery Office, 1995. 234-248. British History Online #750, 756.
12. ↑ Barbara Ross. Accounts of the Stewards of the Talbot Household at Blakemere 1392-1425. (2003). Shropshire Record Series Vol 7, p.112 & 121 (not available online).
13. ↑ Meredith B. Colket and Edward N. Dunlap. The English Ancestry of Anne Marbury Hutchinson And Katherine Marbury Scott. (Philadelphia: The Magee press, 1936). Online at HathiTrust, pg 36
14. ↑ Great Britain. Public Record Office. Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem And Other Analogous Documents Preserved In the Public Record Office. Volume XXIV. London: Printed for H. M. Stationery Off. by Eyre and Spottiswoode, printers to the Queen, 1898. Mary, who was the wife of Thomas Grene, Knight; see also [2].
15. ↑ ^{15.0 15.1} The Greene Family in England and America with Pedigrees. (Boston: p.p., 1901). Online at Archive.org, pages 17-22.

• Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2011. See also WikiTree's source page for Magna Carta Ancestry.
• Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2013. See also WikiTree's source page for Royal Ancestry.

See also:

• Mordaunt, Henry. Succinct Genealogical Proofs of the House of Greene that were Lords of Drayton (London: Malby, 1896).

Acknowledgements

Magna Carta Project

This profile was reviewed/approved for the Magna Carta Project on 1 Oct 2020 by Thiessen-117.

Mary (Talbot) Nottingham appears in Magna Carta Ancestry in a Richardson-documented trail from Gateway Ancestors Anne Marbury, Katherine Marbury and Kenelm Cheseldine to Magna Carta Surety Barons Roger le Bigod and Hugh le Bigod (vol. I:433-436, CHESELDINE) that was developed by Magna Carta Project member A Pendleton and badged 12 Jan 2021 by Thiessen-117. The trail is set out on the profiles of Bridget Dryden and Kenelm Cheseldine.

See Base Camp for more information about identified Magna Carta trails and their status. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as a "badged trail".