Eleanor Mowbray[1][2] Her birth date is uncertain. Cokayne says she was born shortly before 25 March 1364.[2] Richardson says she was born before 1361:[1] this is discussed in a 2002 thread in soc.genealogy.medieval[3] Cokayne's date is probably based on a Patent Rolls entry of 28 April 1369 recording the formal grant of an annuity to John de Disworth on 25 March 1364 (the Feast of the Annunciation, 38 Edward III) for announcing the delivery of his first daughter Eleanor;[4] as discussed in the soc.genealogy.medieval thread, this does not necessarily mean that Eleanor was born shortly before 25 March 1364, and other evidence points to an earlier birth date.
Parents: Sir John de Mowbray, 4th Lord Mowbray, son and heir of Sir John de Mowbray by Joan of Lancaster, and Elizabeth, suo jure Lady Segrave, daughter and heiress of Sir John de Segrave, 4th Lord Segrave, by Margaret, daughter and co-heiress of Sir Thomas of Brotherton, Earl of Norfolk, Marshal of England (younger son of King Edward I of England)[1]
parents' married by papal dispensation dated 25 March 1349[1]
Husband: Sir John Welles (or Welle), 5th Lord Welles, son of Sir John de Welle, 4th Lord Welles, of Cumberworth and Skendleby, Lincolnshire, Faxton, Northamptonshire, etc., and his wife Maud de Roos (or Ros), daughter of Sir William de Roos, 2nd Lord Roos of Helmsley, by Margery de Badlesmere.[1]
Eleanor married (1) Sir Hugh Poynings, (2) Sir Godfrey Hilton[1]
Eleanor (Mowbray) Welles died before August 1417 (John marred his second wife "shortly before August 13, 1417"). John de Welles died August 26, 1421. His widow, Margaret, died April 8, 1426.[1] Cokayne says she "may have been living in 1399."[2]
Research Notes
Marriage Date
G E Cokayne gives the date of John's first marriage as before 1386, even though he cites a charter said to be of the period 1361-1368.[2]
Sources
↑ 1.01.11.21.31.41.51.61.7 Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), Vol IV, pp 187-188, MOWBRAY #6; Vol V, pp 331-332, WELLES #10, #11 John Welles
↑ 2.02.12.22.3 Cokayne, G E. Complete Peerage, revised edition, Vol XII Part II, St Catherine Press, 1959, pp. 442-443, viewable on Familysearch
Weis, F.L. (1999). The Magna Charta Sureties 1215, (5th ed, pp. 82-9).
Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry (2013), Vol. IV page 325
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I have removed the Magna Carta Project as a manager of this profile as she is not in Magna Carta trails the Project has any current intentions to work on.
No. Eleanor was definitely the older daughter. She is described as her parents' "first daughter" in a Patent Rolls entry of 1369. See what I have now said at the start of the biography.
Her birth date is uncertain. So is her sister Margaret's.
Mowbray-41 and Mowbray-3 are not ready to be merged because: these are aunt and niece, not duplicates, & are currently in both a proposed merge and a rejected match. Shifting the merge to a match to try to clear it.
Please remove Lewis Clifford as the spouse of this profile, he was the husband of her aunt, and as the bio of this profile makes clear she only married John Welles presumably when she was still a child, and as she died before him, cannot have married anyone else. Thanks
Mowbray-3 and Mowbray-300 appear to represent the same person because: these are the same person - the NIECE of Mowbray-41. Mowbray-300 never married Clifford-259, should be detached from him; her aunt: Mowbray-41 married him. The birth year is the same and both birth and death locations are the same for these 2 women - other dates need to be researched but these are the right "match".
Her birth date is uncertain. So is her sister Margaret's.
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