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Dragging Canoe Cherokee (1738 - 1792)

Dragging Canoe [uncertain] "Tsi'yu-gansini" Cherokee
Born in Overhill Settlements, Cherokee Nationmap
Son of and [mother unknown]
Husband of — married 1751 in Overhill Settlements, Monroe, Tennesseemap
Died at about age 54 in Lookout Town, Cherokee Nation (East)map
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Biography

Dragging Canoe Has No Known Living Descendants

Dragging Canoe (Tsi yi gun si ni) was a prominent Cherokee chief during the second half of the 18th century. Unlike his father, Attakullakulla, who was known as a diplomat, Dragging Canoe was known for his military leadership. Born about 1740 in one of the Cherokee Overhill towns, his mother’s name is unknown.

A previous version of this profile claimed she was Nionne Ollie, but there is no historical documentation of her identity.

He had three brothers, The Badger, Little Owl, and Turtle-at-home. [1][2]

A possibly apocryphal story explains his name as follows: As a young boy he asked his father to go along on a raid. He was told he was too young and could not come until he was able to carry a canoe with the other men. The men set out on the raid, but when they reached the first creek they found the boy dragging a canoe behind him and thus he received his adult name. [3] By about 1760 Dragging Canoe had become the war chief of the town of Malaquo, part of his father’s territory. [4]

Dragging Canoe’s wife is unknown; some have called her U ga lo gv Leaf Pathkiller.[citation needed]

He had a son known as Young or Little Dragging Canoe.[5]

White settlers continually encroached on Cherokee lands and the Cherokee were forced over and over to cede away their land. As Dragging Canoe grew up he saw the effects on the Cherokee Nation. He first appears in the historical record at the Sycamore Shoals conference in March of 1775. Against the advice of many, including Dragging Canoe, Oconostota’s wife, and the white interpreters, Oconostota, Attakullakulla, and the Raven signed away all the Cherokee claims to land between the Ohio River and the Cumberland Divide. A furious Dragging Canoe is reported to have said, “You have bought a fair land, but there is a black cloud hanging over it. You will find its settlement dark and bloody.” [6]

For the next year and a half, Dragging Canoe fought with other Cherokee to keep out any additional white settlers, but after many Cherokee towns were destroyed and the older leaders made peace with the Americans in October of 1776, Dragging Canoe and a number of young chiefs withdrew to an area on Chickamauga Creek. After those towns were destroyed by Americans, Dragging Canoe and his followers moved farther down the Tennessee River, establishing five new towns near what is today Chattanooga, Tennessee. [7]

For 15 years, Dragging Canoe led the group which became known as the Chickamaugas in a relentless fight against the Americans, ignoring boundaries, treaties, and other agreements. Following the murders of Chiefs Old Tassel and Abram, many more young Cherokee joined him. [8] He also allied with like-minded Shawnee, Creek, and Choctaw.[9]

Although younger men such as John Watts, Bob Benge, and Doublehead were becoming more prominent, Dragging Canoe remained their leader until his sudden death in March, 1792. His death was reported as the result of excessive celebration of a Chickamauga victory near Nashville, although he also was apparently suffering from the effects of an untreated wound at the time. He is believed to have been buried at Running Water Town.[10] The long war against the whites finally ended in 1794 with the Conference at Tellico Blockhouse, agreed to by Dragging Canoe’s successor John Watts and other Cherokee chiefs. [11]

Research Notes

Dragging Canoe was widely admired and in later years there were many unrelated men who went by the name of "Dragging Canoe." They can be found on Cherokee censuses and rolls but they have no connection to the Chief who died in 1792.

A previous version of this profile attached two additional offspring, but he had only one known child. Therefore, the following two daughters have been detached:

  1. Sarah Fivekiller Brown
  2. Abigail Roark

Others also believe he had a daughter Jemima who married a Harding. But even the Journal of Cherokee Studies disclaims anything other than the one son, who had no descendants.[12]

Sources

  1. Brown, John P. Old Frontiers. Southern Publishers Inc., Kingsport, TN. 1938. p. 270
  2. Klinck and Talman, eds. The Journal of Major John Norton 1816. The Champlain Society, Toronto, 1970, p. lxvi
  3. Evans, E. Raymond. Notable Persons in Cherokee History: Dragging Canoe, Journal of Cherokee Studies, Winter, 1977. pp. 176-189, p. 176
  4. Brown, Old Frontiers p. 5
  5. Brown, Old Frontiers, p. 339
  6. Evans, p. 179, quoting a 1777 deposition of Samuel Williams in Virginia State Papers, Vol. 1 image at cloud
  7. Hoig, Stanley. The Cherokees and their Chiefs. University of Arkansas Press, Fayetteville, 1998. P. 65-66
  8. Hoig, Cherokees and their Chiefs, p. 73
  9. Brown, Old Frontiers p. 329
  10. Brown, Old Frontiers, pp. 329-330
  11. Brown, Old Frontiers, pp. 433-438
  12. "Notable Persons in Cherokee History: Dragging Canoe" in Journal of Cherokee Studies, Winter, 1977. pp. 176-18
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I'm goin to lay this straight out to all of you. I know who dragging canoe and ugalogv Nellie leaf pathkiller is. They are my direct 6th great grandparents. Jemima Hardin is their daughter. And Jemima is Cherokee thank you very much. I'm so sick of the lies and cover ups and secrets and the erasing of tribal history. I am a living descendant. So quit the lies and gatekeeping.
posted by Matthew Wren
It looks like the Cherokee themselves do not recognize Jemima as daughter of Dragging Canoe. Please see:

"Notable Persons in Cherokee History: Dragging Canoe" in Journal of Cherokee Studies, Winter, 1977. pp. 176-189) which reports that the wife of Chief Dragging Canoe is not known; and that Dragging Canoe and his unnamed wife had one known child, a son, "Little Dragging Canoe;" and that son has no known modern descendants."

posted by Jillaine Smith
I'm aware of that but that is so far from the truth. Truth is dragging canoe had many children. But they don't want nobody to know that. It's always a hush hush with them on that but the whole truth is dragging canoe today has many descendants. I've met sum. I'm one. We are alive and still keeping true to our culture
posted by Matthew Wren
Please share the documentation for these children.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
I wonder if there is confusion because of the Indexes, Rolls Of Eastern Cherokee Indians, Misc Notes And Drafts page 125 list the following: "Dragging Canoe, His Daughter Nelly" You can find it on Fold3. It would be interesting to find out about her. She is listed on the Guion Miller Roll as the same, Dragging Canoe his daughter Nelly" page 110
posted by Stefani Ries
Stefani, Is that entry dated? I wonder if it refers to the son, not the father...
posted by Jillaine Smith
Totally different person. “Dragging Canoe” became a popular name just like George Washington. That reference is to one of several men named Dragging Canoe who were alive and enumerated on the 1851 Drennan Roll in Indian Territory. The first Dragging Canoe died in what is now Tennessee in 1792.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
edited by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Yea I think that's why there is so much confusion is what I meant, I was trying to say that seeing a record like that they just attach them. I don't see much on her and her line research wise other than people trying to tie them like many others. I was saying it would be interesting if her line could be done to better show that it's not the same to people and maybe straighten the records out more.
posted by Stefani Ries
Yes, people fall into the “same-name” trap all the time. They just see a name and don’t check dates, locations, other family members. One reason it’s so important to provide primary sources whenever possible.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
And just to clarify, what you are finding is not on the Guion Miller Roll, it's on a typed transcript of the Drennan Roll used by Guion Miller in his research. Both references are to the same census record from 1851.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Thanks for the correction! The info I saw kept showing Guion Miller. 😁
posted by Stefani Ries
If I had the meaning to say this but Dragging Canoe is one of my Ancestors through his daughter Jemima.
posted by Ian Spangler
I'm sorry, but Dragging Canoe had no known daughters. His only known child was a son known as "Young" or "Little" Dragging Canoe. There are no records of a wife or children for the son.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
I carried over a couple links from the duplicate but haven't had a chance to review them yet for reliability. Has anybody looked at the Malinda Ross book and is it something the Project should be aware of?
posted by Sarah Mason
This is a clear duplicate, please merge. Tribe name is used as LNAB. His only known immediate family are his father, his brothers, and his son.
posted on Gansini-1 (merged) by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
edited by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Gansini-1 and Cherokee-84 appear to represent the same person because: Clearly the same man. Tribe name is used when no LNAB
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
This profile needs to be merged with Cherokee-84. Using the tribe name is the standard for Native Americans without a proper surname.
posted on Canoe-18 (merged) by Jeanie (Thornton) Roberts
Thanks, Jeanie. Clarification, since Mary H might not be familiar with WikiTree's Native Americans project: WikiTree requires a last name at birth field, but early Native Americans did not use surnames. Therefore, it is the policy of WikiTree's Native Americans Project to use the required last-name-at-birth field to record the tribe or nation name of the person. This is only for profiles of Native Americans who lived prior to their adoption of surnames.
posted on Canoe-18 (merged) by Jillaine Smith
Canoe-18 and Cherokee-84 appear to represent the same person because: Same person.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Canoe-18 and Cherokee-84 do not represent the same person because: .
posted by Mary Herendeen
There is only one Cherokee man from this time period known as Dragging Canoe. He is extremely well-documented.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Canoe-18 and Cherokee-84 appear to represent the same person because: Same person, no LNAAB so tribe name is used
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Canoe-17 and Cherokee-84 appear to represent the same person because: Clear duplicate. “Canoe” is not LNAB, tribe name should be used.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Abigail is not, Sarah probably not, but her parents are unknown.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Are either of those two females Cherokee? On Abigail's profile, there are several comments that she was NOT.
posted by Jillaine Smith
Yes. Both are probably real people, but not connected to Dragging Canoe.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
If the older Dragging Canoe had only one known child-- Little Dragging Canoe-- should we detach the two "daughters"?
posted by Jillaine Smith
Wikipedia and other sites claims the Nionne Ollie story comes from Norton’s Journal, but that is not the case. I can’t find a source.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
“Little Dragging Canoe” is sourced; he is named in Brown, referencinga letter from John McDonald
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Do we have a source for that story? I'd like to add it to her profile and this one before we detach her.
posted by Jillaine Smith
I think she should be detached. “Nionne Ollie” comes from an undocumented story.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
What sources can we find for spouse and offspring ?
posted by Jillaine Smith
Narrative says mother's name not known, but we have a mother with a name attached. What do we need to do here?
posted by Jillaine Smith

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