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Edward Neville (abt. 1412 - 1476)

Sir Edward "1st Baron Bergavenny" Neville
Born about in Englandmap [uncertain]
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married after 28 Aug 1428 in Englandmap [uncertain]
Husband of — married after 15 Oct 1448 [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 64 in Kent, Englandmap [uncertain]
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Biography

Edward Neville, Knt., son of Ralph Neville, K.G., 1st Earl of Westmorland, 4th Lord Neville of Raby, and his second wife, Joan Beaufort,[1][2] was the youngest of their nine sons.[3][4] His date and place of birth are unknown and are estimated (see Research Notes).

Edward "founded the baronial house of Abergavenny (the form, adapted from Bergavenny, which was in use in the mid-sixteenth century and was used by successive holders of this title after 1730), which is the only noble branch of the Neville family to survive in the male line to the present day".[2]

Lands, Titles and Military

Lands: Edward had lands at Birling, Mereworth, etc., Kent, and Cuckfield, Sussex, etc., and, in right of his first wife, at Allesley, Warwickshire. He was a legatee in the 1440 will of his father.[1]
Titles:
  • Edward was summoned in 1426 to take the order of knighthood[4] at Leicester by the infant Henry VI on 19 May.[2][5]
  • Honorary member of the Guild of Merchant Tailors in London, 1436/7[1]
  • Justice of the Peace for Durham, 1438[5]
  • Baron of Abergavenny/Bergavenny, 1449:[6] After the 1448 death of his wife and the subsequent 1449 death of Anne, daughter of Henry Beachamp, Duke of Warwick,[1] Edward obtained license from Henry VI to enter and possess the castle, lordship and manor of Abergavenny on 14 July 1449.[4] He was summoned to Parliament by writs from 5 September 1450 to 1472 directed to Edwardo Nevill domino de Bergevenny militi[1] as a Baron; however, Edward had been unable to claim the castle and lands of Bergavenny[4] as they had been taken over by Edward's nephew, Richard Neville, Earl of Warwick. Edward and his heirs inherited the dignity, but little else, until 1512, when his grandson, George Neville, 3rd Baron Bergavenny, was granted the castle and lordship by King Henry VIII.[2]
  • Captain in Normandy, 1449[5]
  • Governor of Leeds Castle and Park, 1451[1]
  • Privy Councillor, 1454[1][5]
Military: Edward took little part in war or politics. He was involved for a short time in the civil war and was with his nephews, the Earl of Warwick and the Earl of March, when they invaded Calais in June 1460 and was with them on 10 July 1461 at the Battle of Northampton, which ended the rule of the House of Lancaster.[2]

Marriages and Children

Edward married first to Elizabeth Beauchamp,[3] Baroness Bergavenny,[4][7] daughter and heiress of Richard Beauchamp, K.G., K.B., 13th Earl of Warwick and Isabel le Despenser[1][2][4] (see Research Notes). They were married by dispensation dated 28 August 1428[1] or perhaps as early as before 18 October 1424 (date of Edward's father's will),[4] the marriage costing Edward's father, Sir Ralph, 2,000 marks.[2]
They had two sons and two daughters:
Elizabeth died 18 June 1448 and was buried at the Carmelites, Coventry, Warwickshire.[1][4]
Edward married second to Katherine Howard[3] by papal dispensation dated 15 October 1448.[1][2][4] Katherine was the daughter of Robert Howard, Knt., and Margaret, daughter of Thomas Mowbray, K.G.[1][4] Edward and Katherine had cohabitated in the lifetime of his first wife[4] and were excommunicated, but later absolved.[1] They had two sons and three daughters:[2][9]

Death

Edward died 18 October 1476[2] and his wife, Katherine was still living on 29 June 1478.[1][4] There were 17 Inquisitions Post Mortem published after Edwards' death (Ch. Inq.P.M., Edw. IV, file 58, no. 66) that state that (translated from Latin) Edward died on Thursday the eighteenth day of October in the 16th year of Edward IV, and George Nevill, a soldier's son, was heir at the age of thirty-six years old and more.[4]

Research Note

Estimated Birth

Unsourced dates and places requiring more research:
DATE
after 1402[5]
about 1412[10]
before 1414, the seventh son of Ralph (Richardson says he's the 9th son.)[6]
PLACE
in Durham, England or Raby, Durham, England[11]
in Kent, England[6]

First Marriage

Edward's first wife, Elizabeth Beauchamp, is frequently confused with his brother George's wife, who was also named Elizabeth Beauchamp. This Elizabeth's mother, Isabel le Despenser, married two men named Richard Beauchamp, who were first cousins. Elizabeth's father was Richard, 2nd Lord Abergavenny, Earl of Worcester (d. 1422).
Richardson has Elizabeth being "born at Hanley Castle, Worcestershire 16 Sept. 1415 (aged 18 in 1436)" (she would be 21 in 1436 if born 1415).[1] Normally when Richardson includes a reference such as that, it ties to a date in the entry (e.g, a parent's death date), but the only other 1436 was when Edward was first "presented to the church." However, this profile originally included a marriage date of 15 October 1436 (no source attached, nor is one stated in MCA). Given her age, it would seem that the papal dispensation, dated 28 August 1428, "they being related in the 4th and 3rd degree of kindred",[1] was for a marriage contract and they actually married in 1436. The last reference noted for Elizabeth's entry in Richardson includes an even earlier date, citing a "receipt dated 9 Sept. 1424 for the aid to the marriage of Edward Neville and Elizabeth Beauchamp". Whether born in 1415 or 18 by 1436, she was quite young when her father died and her mother remarried (in 1423). It appears her step-father wasted no time in arranging a marriage for the pre-teen Elizabeth.
The papal dispensation was issued 28 August 1428 however they may have been married (or at least the marriage had been arranged) by 1424 (receipt above). Wikipedia states they were married in 1436, but no source is cited.[6] George, the second son (first surviving) of Edward and Elizabeth, was born about 1440. 1436 was most likely when the marriage was consummated.

Connection to George Washington

Wikipedia currently reports in at least two places that Sir Edward was an ancestor of Mary (Ball) Washington, but this appears to be incorrect. On Edward's Wikipedia page is the statement: "Through George Nevill, Edward Neville is an ancestor to Mary Ball, mother of George Washington. However, this statement cites a Geni.com page that has no relevance to this relationship. WikiTree Relationship Finder has Edward and Mary Ball as fourth cousins, 11 times removed and his son George's relationship to Mary Ball as fifth cousins, 10 times removed.

Sources

  1. 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 1.14 1.15 1.16 1.17 1.18 1.19 1.20 1.21 1.22 1.23 1.24 Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011),vol. I, pages 167-168, BERGAVENNY 9, Elizabeth Beauchamp.
  2. 2.00 2.01 2.02 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 2.08 2.09 2.10 2.11 2.12 T.B. Pugh. "Neville, Edward, first Baron Bergavenny (d. 1476), nobleman." in Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. Oxford University Press, 23 Sep 2004. Accessed online 5 Apr 2020, with subscription, at ODNB.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd edition, vol. III, page 249 NEVILLE 8.v., Edward Neville
  4. 4.00 4.01 4.02 4.03 4.04 4.05 4.06 4.07 4.08 4.09 4.10 4.11 4.12 4.13 George Edward Cokayne, ed. Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Vol. I: Ab Adam - Basing, 2nd edition. (London,1910). Online at Archive.org, pages 27-30.
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 Doyle, James William Edmund. The Official Baronage of England. Vol. I. (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1886). Online at Google Books, page 3.
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 Wikipedia: Edward Neville, 3rd Baron Bergavenny.
  7. History of Parliament Online: Sir Henry Neville: calls her Baroness of Bergavenny
  8. George and Margaret's only daughter, Elizabeth Neville, married (1) Thomas Berkeley, Esq. of Avon and (2) Richard Covert; George and Margaret's son George Neville married (1) Joan Arundel, (2) Margaret Brent, (3) Mary Stafford, (4) Mary Brooke (otherwise Cobham)
  9. Many trees show another son, probably copying Tudor Place, which lists "Henry Neville (Sir Knight)" as a son of Edward and Katherine, but without any sources or additional information.
  10. Marlyn Lewis. Sir Edward Neville, 1st Baron Abergavenny entry in "Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors & Cousins" website, accessed 7 Apr 2020
  11. Ancestry sources, with some including more precise birth location of "Raby," and "Raby With Kev, Staindrop". Needs more research
  • Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. (Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2013). See also WikiTree's source page for Royal Ancestry.
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Acknowledgements

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Magna Carta Project

This profile was re-reviewed and approved for the Magna Carta Project on 7 Apr 2020 by Thiessen-117.
Edward Neville is in badged trails to several Magna Carta Surety Barons John Fitz Robert, Gilbert de Clare, Richard de Clare, John de Lacy, Hugh le Bigod, Roger Bigod and Saher de Quincy from the following Gateway Ancestors:
See Base Camp for more information about identified Magna Carta trails and their status. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as a "badged trail".




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Further to note about Wikipedia's Washington confusion - Edward's half-sister Alice married a different Sir Thomas Grey.
posted by [Living Horace]
Source for Edward Neville-56, (1412-1476).

"Royal Ancestry" Douglas Richardson, 2013, Vol. I. p. 320

Thank you!

update: the profile for Henry deNevill was removed as a son of Edward and Catherine.

Hi! I'm done with the editing of the profile, but...Edward's known children by his two wives (as listed by Richardson) do not include a Henry, and I could find no reference to him having children by a mistress. Any ideas of who the parents are of "son" Henry?

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett