Thomas Palmer
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Thomas Palmer (abt. 1590 - 1639)

Captain Thomas Palmer
Born about in East Riding, Yorkshire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Son of [uncertain] and [uncertain]
Husband of — married 1613 in Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 49 in Englandmap
Profile last modified | Created 14 Sep 2010
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Biography

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Thomas Palmer[1]

Arrival
Name: Thomas Palmer
Arrival year: 1621-1622
Arrival Place: Jamestown colony on the ship, Tiger[2]
Primary Immigrant: Palmer, Thomas
Source Publication Code: 9160.50
Annotation: Date and place of mention. Age and information regarding hire also provided.
Source Bibliography: THORNDALE, WILLIAM. Maids For Virginia In 1621. In Virginia Genealogist, vol. 39:4 (October-December 1995), pp. 245- 252.

Birth: East Riding, Yorkshire, England
Arrival: 1621-1622 Aboard the Tyger, from England to Charles Cittie, Virginia, then to Jordan's Journey, Virginia[3][4][5]

He died on 29 December 1629, in England.[1]

Will & Probate

He wrote a Will on 9 December 1629, which was probated after his death in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury.[6]

Research Notes

Vital Statistics

Birth
An unsourced birth date of 1588[7] was previously listed.

An unsourced birth date of about 1590[8] was previously listed.

Death
An unsourced death date of about 1633[8] was previously listed.

An unsourced death date of before 1637[7] was previously listed.

An unsourced death place of Northumberland County, Colony of Virginia[9] was previously listed.

Unsorted Notes

A descendant provided the following notes on his research into the "true birthplace of Captain Thomas Palmer" (thanks Gary!):
  • came to the Virginia colonies around 1623. [listed as aboard Tyger, Nov 1621],[10] in 1624/5 Muster as arriving November 1621 aboard the Tyger.[11]
  • my research indicates that Esquire Edward (Edwarde?) Palmer and his wife Muriel (Merial) are the parents of Thomas. Gloucestershire, England appears to be the general Palmer family residence location over many generations.
  • Captain Thomas Palmer's records indicate that he was born in 1590 in Rowley, East Riding, Yorkshire.
"I am trying to ascertain How?/Why? he was born in Yorkshire if the family primarily resided in the Gloucestershire region. It is a long-distance between the two locations in that era, would have been a difficult journey.
"I contacted local genealogy persons in East Riding, Yorkshire, but they have not been able to confirm that Thomas Palmer was born in Yorkshire around 1590. I and they think Yorkshire is not the correct location for his birthplace (despite multiple ancestry links indicating that Yorkshire is his birthplace).
"There were 2 Thomas Palmer's in Yorkshire around the same time, but neither appears to be the one I am researching.
"I found one possible clue, indicating that Thomas was baptized in Gloucester, St John the Baptist (Randwick?). The church still exists. I sent the current Vicar a request for any assistance in verifying this baptism, but have had no response."
above from Gary Palmer via private message March 3, 2017 (permission to post received March 4). ~ Liz Shifflett
On Feb. 11, 2017, in response to this G2G discussion, dates/places in the datafields this profile were edited to better match the biography and attached profiles. They had been:
  • born 1508, Parham, Sussex, England
  • died 24 Apr 1585, Parham, Sussex, England
Sources for those dates/locations had not been added.
See the [Change history] for information on how the profile got to where it is today (click on links in that history to profiles other than Palmer-229 to see their history prior to the merge).

Added 2017 by D. Marshall Satterwhite. "The first Palmer of record in Virginia can quite accurately be said to be Thomas Palmer who came over from England in the ship "Tiger" in 1623 with his wife Joane and daughter Priscilla, age 11 years old. On Feb. 16, 1623 these three are given as residing in Virginia at Jordan's Journey which is probably just below City Point.

This Thomas was a member of Burgesses of the Colony which assembled at Jamestown Oct. 16, 1629 and he represented Shirley Hundred Main. He was also a member again on March 24 1629/30 from Hundred Main.[12] He was commander of a company of Shirley Hundred men and was called Captain. He was a Justice appointed in March 1631/32 for the monthly courts for the upper parts of the counties of Charles City and Henrico. Jane and Priscilla appear in Charles City County in 1637 as head rights under John Baker as patentee. Whether Thomas had died by 1637 we do not know, nor do we know whether he had other children.

Edward Palmer of York Co. is, without doubt, the one who came in the ship "Friendship" in 1629. Probably he was quite young at this time, about twenty, and could have been the son of Thomas above, but there is nothing to indicate this relationship. Edward is found in York Co. VA on a coroner's Jury in March 1660 and on June 4, 1658 he was granted 499 acres at Pascataway Neck for transporting eight persons.

Info from a merge: The following information from a merged profile needs to be sourced/incorporated into bio or deleted:

Born about 1584 in Yorkshire East Riding, England and died about 1633.
  • Fact: "Came to America from England on Ship 'Tiger/Tifre' - 1621 with wife Joan and daughter, Priscilla, who was 7 years old (11 years old)".
  • Fact: The ship Tyger brought Capt Thomas Palmer to Virginia (November 1621)
  • Fact: Occupation Reverend, Jamestown settlement
  • Fact: http://familysearch.org/v1/LifeSketch From Genealogies of Virginia Families, Vol IV p. 66:

Thomas Palmer came to Virginia from England in the ship "Tiger" in 1621 with his wife Joane and daughter Priscilla, age 11. On February 16, 1623, these three are given as residing in Virginia at "Jordan's Journey," which is probably just below City Point. [They are listed in the Muster of 1624/5 on January 21, 1624 as residing at Jordan's Jorney and Chaplain Choice, arriving on the ship Tyger November 1621.] This Thomas was a member of the House of Burgesses of the Colony which assembled at Jamestown Oct. 16, 1629, and he represented Shirley Hundred Main. He was also a member again on Mar. 24 1629/30 from Shirley Hundred Main. He commanded a company of Shirley Hundred men and was called Captain. He was a Justice appointed in Mar. 1631./2 for the monthly courts for the upper parts of the counties of Charles City and Henrico. Jane and Priscilla appear in Charles City County in 1637 as head rights under John Baker as patentee. Whether Thomas had died by 1637 we do not know, nor do we know whether he had any other children. He could have had others, but none appear of record.

Parents:
  • Esquire Edward Palmer
  • Merial (merialla) Palmer

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Jamestowne Society, Qualifying Ancestors, Thomas Palmer - - A5906; died 29 December 1629 England; Shirley Hundred, Maine: 1629 (Burgess).
  2. Passenger List of the Tiger 1621 Research and compilation by Anne Stevens, packrat-pro.com.
  3. from [Ancestry tree (no longer available 28 May 2021)]:
    • Map of Geographic Region of Charles Cittie
    • List of Musters of Inhabitants of Virginia 1624/25 from Hotten's Book
    • ORIGINAL MUSTER ROLL 1624/25
    • Filby, P. William, ed., Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, the 1500s-1900s (Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2010)
  4. List of the Living and Dead in Virginia
  5. Jester, Annie Lash., Hiden, Martha Woodruff. 1883. Musters of the Inhabitants in Virginia 1624/1625, Adventurers of Purse and Person Virginia 1607-1625: FamilySearch International, Title No. 2058494, p.15.
  6. Will of Thomas Palmer, The National Archives; Kew, Surrey, England; Records of the Prerogative Court of Canterbury, Series PROB 11; Class: PROB 11; Piece: 157. Ancestry.com. England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013. Original data:Prerogative Court of Canterbury: Wills of Selected Famous Persons. Digitized images. Records of the Prerogative Court of Canterbury, Series PROB 1. The National Archives, Kew, England.Prerogative Court of Canterbury and Related Probate Jurisdictions: Will Registers. Digitized images. Records of the Prerogative Court of Canterbury, Series PROB 11. The National Archives, Kew, England.
  7. 7.0 7.1 Entered by Janice Hardin, Feb 7, 2012.
  8. 8.0 8.1 Entered by L Anonymous, Jul 27, 2011.
  9. From Palmer-7312, source: [ Ancestry tree (no longer available 28 May 2021)].
  10. See Category:Tyger, sailed 1621 (accessed 13 September 2020):
    "Palmer, Thomas, Nov 1621 voyage with wife Joane."
  11. Jamestown Muster (accessed 13 September 2020).
  12. Stanard, William G. and Mary Newton Stanard. The Colonial Virginia Register. Albany, N. Y.: Joel Munsell's Sons, Publishers. 1902. Pages 54, 55

See also:

  • [move the below "review these" sources here as they are reviewed]

See also - review these:

  • "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NL2X-WZG : 11 February 2018, Thomas Pallmer in entry for Jane Pallmer, 26 Jul 1629); citing ST BOTOLPH WITHOUT ALDGATE,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 370,924, 370,929.
  • "Massachusetts Deaths, 1841-1915," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NWT5-QX4 : 11 March 2018), Thomas Palmer in entry for Thomas Palmer, 21 Jun 1906; citing Boston,,Massachusetts, 95, State Archives, Boston; FHL microfilm 2,224,940.
  • "England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JD79-72B : 12 February 2018), Thomas Palmer in entry for Joane Palmer, burial 12 Jun 1634; citing Ludham, Norfolk, England, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,911,694.
  • "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J3QX-PMX : 11 February 2018, Thomas Palmer in entry for Thomas Palmer, 02 Oct 1618); citing HOLBEACH,LINCOLN,ENGLAND, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 0496825 IT 5.
  • "England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JCVG-N94 : 10 February 2018), Thomas Palmer in entry for Richard Palmer, burial 08 Mar 1641; citing St. Dunstan, Stepney, Middlesex, England, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 597,248.
  • "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J3MM-7Q7 : 11 February 2018, Thomas Palmer in entry for Mary Palmer, 07 Jan 1609); citing ST GILES CRIPPLEGATE,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 380,199.
  • Ancestral File ® Web Verson, Chirch of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Family Search ® Internet Web Site, Page number: file # 111V-DMR
  • Encyclopedia of Virginia Biography, V. 1, Burgesses and Other Prominent Persons, Editor: Tyler, Lyon Gardiner., New York, N. Y: Lewis Historical Publishing Co., 1915, Ancesry.com, Page number: p 301
  • Ship Passenger Lists - The South: 1538-1825, Carl Boyer, 3rd, Page number: p 211
  • Dickerson, Irene, Wishert-Carter-Pendergrass-Traylor-Rose (Ancestry.Com)
  • glentzer[at]indtech.edu, GEDCOM file imported on 27 Mar 2004. (Data file presented in Ancestry.com for the McClung family.)
  • Dickerson, Irene, Wishert-Carter-Pendergrass-Traylor-Rose (Ancestry.Com)




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posted by Ken Spratlin
The death date and location should probably be changed to 29 Dec 1629 in England. See what historian Martha W. McCartney had to say ("Virginia Immigrants" in Photo Column) and will of Thomas Palmer, probated in England.
posted by Betty (Skelton) Norman
update - merge completed

Palmer-15994 and Palmer-229 appear to represent the same person because: reading through profiles, found a note that Palmer-15994 was "lost" during a merge and needed to be merged with Palmer-229. Please merge. Thanks!

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
edited by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Hello! If the lineage is correct, Capt. Thomas Palmer is my dad's great - x11 - grandfather. If my father does a DNA test, would it show a connection (regardless of minute percentage)? My email is [email address removed] Thank you in advance for your response!!
posted by Lana (Taylor) Figgs
Showing arrival date of the ship 'Tyger' as 1623; everything I'm seeing in my research shows 1621. Am I missing something?
posted by Diana Deering Palmer
same thing I am ... https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Tyger%2C_sailed_1621 lists him as on the "Nov 1621 voyage with wife Joane."
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
upon save:
Warning: Check the data.
  • A birth date should not be more than 60 years before or after a sibling's birth date.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Father is too old is reported on this profile

Please correct and add sources. See

posted by [Living Sälgö]
To all: this profile has one set of DOB, DOD, and the biography has another. Was this a bad merge?

Biography looks like the man immigrated to Jamestown. Even has a couple of references from there. Profile is for an older person.

posted by Mary Richardson
Removed Katherine Stradling as wife, as she was the wife of Palmer-47.

Joan is also impossible on the dates.

But it looks like this Thomas was originally born 1590 and then got confused or bad-merged with an earlier Thomas.

posted by [Living Horace]
Sir Thomas Palmer of Parham, MP, did not come from Lemington, Gloucestershire.
posted by James Canning
Thomas Palmer (b. 1508), as son of Edward Palmer (b. 1550)?
posted by James Canning