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Christina (James) Reade (abt. 1401 - 1435)

Christina Reade formerly James aka Rede
Born about in Berkshire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married about 1420 in Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 34 in Barton Court, Berkshire, Englandmap [uncertain]
Profile last modified | Created 30 May 2013
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Biography

Child[1]

  1. William b 1425 Barton Court, Berkshire, England

She died 28 March 1435, possibly at Barton Court, Berkshire, England.[1]

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Biography

Origins

Christina James was born after 1385 in Berkshire, England, daughter of Robert James, MP and Katherine de la Pole.[2]

Inheritance and Lands

Her father Robert obtained "the former Handlo estates (which her father Sir Edmund held for life ‘by the courtesy’). The inheritance thus secured included, in Buckinghamshire, the manors of Boarstall, Addingrove and Oakley, the bailiwick of the forestership of Bernwood, some 400 acres in the forest, and more than 600 acres and £12 in rents elsewhere; and, in Oxfordshire, the manor of Muswell, the forestership of Shotover and Stowood, and an estate in Headington. The reversion which James and his wife held in the two moieties was not to fall in until de la Pole’s death in 1419, but long before then James held a large part of the estate as his father-in-law’s tenant; accordingly, he was called ‘lord of Boarstall’ as early as 1400."[2]

"John’s death before the autumn of 1427 caused Robert to make other arrangements in favour of his daughter, Christine, who since 1412 had been married to Edmund Rede, the son and heir of the lawyer, John Rede* (d.1404); and 18 months later he handed over to his daughter and her husband his estate at Clapcot and Rush Court in return for an annual pension of 50 marks.8 In his will, made on 13 Nov. 1430, he noted that his son-in-law (who had died earlier that year) had received 160 marks from him at the time of his marriage, and so asked his daughter to be content with that sum, and expect no more from his goods. However, he did leave £20 to his grand daughter, Alice."[2]

Marriage and Children

She married Edmund Reade, son of John Reade.

Research Notes

Parents

Jacob Whittemore Reed misattribution of parents

In Jacob Whittemore Reed's History of the Reed family in Europe and America, a passage tells of the parentage of Christiana Reade without sourcing:

"Thomas of Redydale, the son of Galfrinus, had a son of the same name, who was living in 1429, and had a son Thomas, who possessed an estate at Heddington, Oxon, and married Christiana, daughter of Robert James Lapole, and sister of Michael De Lapole, Lord Chancellor."[3]

There was no Robert James de Lapole who was the father of Michael de la Pole, Lord Chancellor and the author fails to offer any proof of this. The Robert James comes from a history of John Rede, MP and Bishop of Chichester, found in History of Parliament Online:

"Then, in 1394, he agreed to act as attorney for Sir Walter de la Pole during the latter’s absence in Ireland with Richard II’s army. Associated with him in this last task was de la Pole’s brother-in-law, Robert James of Wallingford, with whose family he had long had close dealings."[2]

Robert James de la Pole never existed- Reed must have misunderstood who Robert James of Wallingford was and put "de Lapole" at the end of his name.

Son William

A son William is currently attached to this profile. The source that was given is just a tree on the web.[1]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 Reed, Allan, Edmund Reade (b. 1397, d. 08 Oct 1430) December 18, 2005, accessed February 27, 2015
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1386-1421, ed. J.S. Roskell, L. Clark, C. Rawcliffe., 1993, HOP.
  3. Jacob Whittemore Reed. History of the Reed family in Europe and America (Boston: John Wilson and Son, 1861), p. 29.




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I have initiated a merge to merge profiles created under the correct lineage from Edmund and Katherine de la Pole to Christina James. It seems there was another set of profiles that mirrored what I was trying to update.
posted on James-26889 (merged) by Darrell Larocque
Thanks, Darrell. I have completed the merge. If anyone can improve further, please do so.
posted by Michael Cayley
James-26889 and James-4276 appear to represent the same person because: I have added the material from History of Parliament Online for Christina James Rede/Reade.
posted by Darrell Larocque
This profile must be totally redone- this is Christine JAMES, not Christina de la Pole, wife of EDMUND Rede- Edward Rede is also incorrect.

ROBERT JAMES:

"b. bef. 1366, s. and h. of John James† (d.1396) of Wallingford by Christine (d.1409), da. and h. of John Anesty (d.c.1361) of Clapcot. m. (1) by Nov. 1385, Katherine (9 Mar. 1369-bef. 1415), yr. da. of Sir Edmund de la Pole* by his 1st w. Elizabeth Handlo, 1s. d.v.p. 1da.; (2) bef. Feb. 1424, Maud (d. 5 Aug. 1437), sis. of John Fitzellis of Oakley, Bucks.1"

"In 1415, as a trustee of the James estates, Chaucer had helped to complete a settlement on Robert, his son, John, and the latter’s wife, but John’s death before the autumn of 1427 caused Robert to make other arrangements in favour of his daughter, Christine, who since 1412 had been married to Edmund Rede, the son and heir of the lawyer, John Rede* (d.1404); and 18 months later he handed over to his daughter and her husband his estate at Clapcot and Rush Court in return for an annual pension of 50 marks.8"

http://historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/james-robert-1366-1432

Darrell

posted on Pole-208 (merged) by Darrell Larocque
edited by Darrell Larocque
If Christian(a) de la Pole is a daughter of Michael de la Pole and Katherine Stafford, what is listed as her birthdate is improbable. It may be a death date vs a birth year, given her parents married about 1383. That said, she could be his natural daughter and not daughter of Katherine Stafford de la Pole. She is not listed in the Inquisition of either Michael de la Pole (1415) or in Katherine's (1419). She is shown as my ancestor but I think this is an error. Is she in the wrong generation, misnamed, or an error? I, apparently, descend from the Reade's or Norwich, Norfolk, and Suffolk, but I find no record of she or much of John Read/Reade/Reed/Rede in records. There are two John Reed's listed in the Norwich Freeman Rolls, John Reed goldbeater 2 Henry IV {1391} and a John Reed Butcher 3 Henry VI {1425}.

I suppose the later could be the father of this John, or the earlier men listed on the same page: Simon Rede Notary 13 Henry VII 1498 Simon Rede Shoemaker 13 Henry VII 1498 Thomas Rede of Trous Fuller 3 Henry VI 1425 Thomas Rede Carpenter apprenticed to Wm Wright 2 Henry VIII 1487 Thomas Rede Mercer 13 Henry VIII 1498

But is something off or am I missing information?

posted on Pole-208 (merged) by Karen (Weitz) Wood
edited by Karen (Weitz) Wood
Let me see what I can find and fix this... I'll at least add some sourcing whether or not I disconnect her or prove it.

Darrell

posted on Pole-208 (merged) by Darrell Larocque
I am certain this connection is bogus. I PMed the Medieval Project so that this profile can be disconnected. It seems as if it was pieced together using two sources that don't prove it at all.

I added a Research Notes section with the information that I found which best explains this mess...

posted on Pole-208 (merged) by Darrell Larocque
edited by Darrell Larocque
She's not one of the dau. listed of Michael de la Pole - what is the source for this person? Who did she marry? I'll prob. disconnect her unless there's some action in the near future, thanks.
posted on Pole-208 (merged) by Kirk Hess

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