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Samuel Stone Sr. (abt. 1602 - 1663)

Rev Samuel Stone Sr.
Born about in Hertford, Hertfordshire, Englandmap
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Husband of — married 5 Jun 1629 in Cranham, Essex, Englandmap
Husband of — married Jul 1641 in Hartford, Hartford, Connecticutmap
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Died at about age 60 in Hartford, Connecticut Colonymap
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The Puritan Great Migration.
Samuel Stone Sr. migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See Great Migration Begins, by R. C. Anderson, Vol. 3, p. 1768)
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Samuel Stone, son of John and (Unknown Rogers) Stone[1], was baptized 30 July 1602 at All Saints,[2] Hertford, Hertfordshire, England.[1]
"Samuel Stone" - From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Samuel Stone (July 18, 1602 – 20 July 1663) was a Puritan Minister. Stone was born in Hertford, England. In 1620, he left Hertford to study at Emmanuel College, Cambridge, from where he graduated in 1624. He was ordained on July 8, 1626 at Peterborough and a year later became curate at Stisted, Essex. In 1633, Samuel Stone and Thomas Hooker sailed across the Atlantic on a ship named the Griffin. They arrived in Boston on the 4th of September of the same year, and a few weeks later, Samuel Stone became Teacher of Church. In 1644, he became a Freeman.
In 1636, Stone and Hooker led their congregation from New Towne (now Cambridge, Massachusetts) and established a new colony at House of Hope (a Dutch fort and trading post), making peace with the local Indians and renaming the town they called Saukiog as Hartford, after Stone's birthplace - they thus became the town's founding fathers."[3]

"To the reader of early New England history, the reference to the Rev. Samuel Stone will scarcely need explanation. Born in Hartford (or Heortford) England, he came to Boston in 1633 in company with Mr. Hooker and Mr. Cotton. He had been a Lecturer among the Dissenters in England, and was shortly after ordained with Mr. Hooker at Newtown.

"Mr. Hooker took the title of *Pastor* and Mr. Stone that of *Teacher*. In June, 1636, a company of about one hundred under the pastoral charge of Mr. Hooker, with all preparations for a permanent residence, travelled directly across the country to the Connecticut River, to commence a new settlement. Of that Company, the Rev. Samuel Stone and Ruling Elder William Goodwin, were deputed a committee to purchase of the Indians the tract *Suckiage*, now called Hartford, which they accomplished, to the satisfaction of all parties.

A late writer of some very interesting articles on the early history of Hartford, in speaking of the principal characters forming that company says: "And immediately of Hooker's party, and his associate as Teacher in the church, *Samuel Stone*, -- a theological Socrates -- a subtle resoner and great disputant -- ingenious, witty, didactic -- remarkable for his frequent fastings and exact Sabbaths -- 'a man of principles,' (says Mather,) 'both a *Load-stone* and a *Flint-stone*. "

The same writer says, that on the breaking out of the Pequot war, "Mr. Stone it was who, attending the soldiers as Chaplain, kept their courage ever high and holy through pious mindfulness, -- who went to pray with them as they sailed, as they marched, in fatigue, in pain, and during the perils of a mortal struggle." Mr. Stone survived Mr. Hooker (who died in 1648) and continued as the teacher of that primitive flock until his death, 20 July, 1663.

He was twice married.

Samuel Stone married, first, Rebecca Wright, the daughter of Samuel and Rebecca (Rogers) Wright in Cranham, Essex on 5 June 1629,[4][5] Some genealogies call her Hope ____, but with no evidence.

  • Rebecca came with him to Hartford and died there in 1640. The last thing known respecting her is gathered from a letter written by Mr. Hooker in Nov. 1640, announcing her death to his son-in-law, Rev. Thomas Shepherd, in which he says: "Brother Stone's Wife smoaked out her days in the darknesse of melanchollie."
  • Mr. Stone m. (2) Elizabeth -----.
Children by 1st wife, Rebecca Wright [1]
Samuell Stone, baptized 13 Sep 1632 in Towcester, Northamptonshire[6], possibly died young
John Stone b. say 1634 attended Harvard and Cambridge, not named in his father's will, so probably died before 1663 and without issue.
Rebekah Stone, born about 1636, m. Timothy Nash
Mary Stone, born about 1638, m. Joseph Fitch, settled in East Windsor
Sarah Stone, born about 1640, m. Thomas Butler of Hartford
Children by 2nd wife, married by about 25 July 1641, Mrs. Elizabeth Allen:[1][7]
Elizabeth Stone, born about 1645; m. (1) William Sedgwick and (2) John Roberts
Joseph Stone bp Hartford 18 Oct 1646. n.f.r.
Lydia Stone b. Hartford 22 Jan 1647/8. n.f.r.
Samuel or Unknown son Stone, baptized Hartford in 29 April 1649
Abigail Stone b. Hartford 9 Sep 1650. n.f.r.
- Samuel or Unknown b. summer of 1652 (23 weeks old 28 Feb 1652/3
The following is the inscription on his Monument in the old burying-ground in the rear of the Centre Church at Hartford:
MR SAMUEL STONE, DECEASED YE 61 YEAR OF HIS AGE

JULY 20 1663 NEW ENGLAND'S GLORY & HER RADIENT CROWNE, WAS HE WHO NOW ON SOFTEST BED OF DOWNE, TILL GLORIOUS RESURRECTION MORNE APPEARE, DOTH SAFELY, SWEETLY SLEEPE IN JESUS HERE, IN NATURE'S SOLID ART & REASONING WELL, TIS KNOWNE BEYOND COMPARE, HE DID EXCELL: ERRORS CORRUPT, BY SINNEWOUS DISPUTE HE DID OPPUGNE, & CLEARLY THEM CONFUTE ABOVE ALL THINGS HE CHRIST HIS LORD PREFERRED

HARTFORD, THY RICHEST JEWEL'S HERE INTERRED.
--Rev Sylvester Nash, *The Nash Family*, Hartford CT, 1853, p 270-271 (Appendix, Note D to Page 26).
"STONE, Samuel, clergyman, b. in Hertford, England, 30 July, 1602; d. in Hartford, Conn., 20 July, 1663. His father, John, was a freeholder of Hertford. Cotton Mather's statement in his "Magnalia" that Samuel was the son of a non-conformist clergyman of the same name has been recently proved, by the register of the Church of All Saints, Hertford, to be without foundation. The son was a student at Emmanuel College, Cambridge, in 1623-'7. Fleeing to the American colonies to escape religious persecution, he landed at Boston, Mass., 3 Sept., 1633, having as companions in his flight Rev. John Cotton and Rev. Thomas Hooker. With the latter he was an associate in a church at Cambridge until 1636, when they both removed to the present site of Hartford, Conn., which was named after his old home, the spelling being conformed to the English pronunciation. He was distinguished as a controversialist and celebrated for his wit and humor. Being a man of strong convictions, he engaged during the latter part of his life in theological disputes which caused part of his congregation to secede and found another church. [Rev. Stone's companion, Rev. Hooker, was sixteen years older, and died first, in 1647, after which Rev Stone was both Teacher and Preacher in the Hartford Church for thirteen years.[8]] Mr. Stone published "A Congregational Church is a Catholic Visible Church: Examination of Mr. Hudson's View" (London, 1652), and he left two works in manuscript, a "Body of Divinity" and a confutation of the Antinomians. Of the former, Cotton Mather says: "This rich treasure has often been transcribed by the vast pains of our candidates for the ministry; and it has *made* some of our most considerable divines."
--Appletons' Cyclopaedia of American Biography, edited by James Grant Wilson and John Fiske, New York (D Appleton and Company) 1888, v 5, p 703
"At the time of [Rev. Roger] Newton's dismissal, the Hartford church was passing through one of the worst conflicts in its long history. After Hooker's death, Samuel Stone, teacher of the church, assumed the duties of minister but not the title. Stone vetoed the candidacy of Michael Wigglesworth, initiating the quarrel, but it was his personality and elevated view of the clerical order which seemed to place him in sharp opposition to the congregation, especially to Elder William Goodwin. Goodwin had many of the strengths of the Puritan planters, but he was also outspoken in his opinions and had been reproved in Massachusetts Bay for "unreverend speech." Stone, on the other hand, was the author of the provoking expression referring to ministerial authority as "A speaking aristocracy in the face of a silent democracy." In the end, Stone won a nominal victory, but a significant element of the congregation withdrew and settled Hadley, Massachusetts. A leader among the "withdrawers," Goodwin remained in Hadley until 1671, when he moved to Farmington and came to live with Samuel Hooker, who had also protested Stone's actions."

--Christopher P Bickford, Farmington in Connecticut, Canaan NH, 1982, p 62

Samuel - b. Jul. 18, 1602, Hertford, Herts., England; bap. Jul. 30, 1602, All Saints, Hertford, Herts., England; d. July 20, 1663, Hartford, Hartford Co., CT. Graduate of Emmanuel College, Cambridge, and ordained 8 Jul. 1626 at Peterbough, he was curate at Stisted, Essex, England June 13, 1627 to Sep. 13, 1630. Arrived at Boston, Suffolk Co., MA Sep. 4, 1633 in the 'Griffin.' Teacher of church at Cambridge, Middlesex Co., MA Oct. 11, 1633, and freeman May 14, 1634. To Hartford, Hartford Co., CT 1639, where he received a gift of land in 1640 from John STONE. See note following concerning John STONE of Guilford, CT. Rev. Samuel was Chaplain to troops in Pequot War 1637 and pastor of First Church, Hartford, Hartford Co., CT. His first wife, Hope FLETCHER, died in 1640, and he married second before July 1641 Mrs. Elizabeth ALLEN (d. 1681). Elizabeth, as widow of Rev. Samuel STONE, married third about 1673 George GARDNER. Elizabeth GARDNER was a witness to the 1675 will of William WADSWORTH. Children of of Samuel and Hope STONE: John; Rebecca married Timothy NASH; Mary married Joseph FITCH; and Sarah married Thomas BUTLER. Children of Samuel and Elizabeth STONE: Joseph died young; Lydia died young; a son died young; Abigail died young; Samuel did not marry; and Elizabeth married first William SEDGWICK (divorced) [see Sedgewick web site for descendants], and second John ROBERTS

REV. SAMUEL STONE SR. was born in 1602 in Hertford, Hertfordshire, England. He was the son of John Stone and Sarah Rogers. He studied at the Emmanuel College in Cambridge in 1620 and graduated in 1624. He was eventually ordained on 7/8/1626 in Peterborough and soon after was the curate at Stisted, Essex, England. He was suspended for non-conformity and then became a lecturer at Towcester in 1630. He married Hope (maiden name unknown) (~1600-bef. 11/2/1640) around 1630 in England. They had 4 children together: John; Rebecca; Mary Fitch (~1639-1672); and Sarah. He worked alongside Rev. Thomas Hooker, and the two of them sailed for America in 1633 on the ship “Griffin.” He was with Hooker’s followers in Newtown (Cambridge), and was a teacher at Cambridge church on 10/11/1633. He was a freeman in Newtown in 1634 and obtained some property: 1 acre of cowyard; a garden plot at the meeting house; 2 acres of meadow by Watertown; and 20 acres of salt marsh south of the Charles River. Another record noted him owning his dwelling in town, 4 acres in Wigwam Neck, and another ~1 acre. In 1636 he moved with Hooker’s followers to create the town of Hartford, where he is said to be the man that purchased the land from Sequassen. In 1637 when the settlers were at war with the Pequot indians, Samuel was the chaplain in Major John Mason’s expedition, which ended in the Connecticut victory at the Mystic Massacre. Samuel’s wife, Hope, died before November 2, 1640, as the event was noted in a letter written by Thomas Hooker. He remarried to Elizabeth Allen (~1616-1681) by 7/25/1641 in Hartford. He had 6 children with Elizabeth, of only 5 names are known: Elizabeth; Joseph; Lydia; Abigail; and Samuel. The Hartford inventory of land in 1640 noted he owned 8 parcels, totaling 40 acres of land: 2 acres that included his dwelling; 2 acres of the South meadow; 11 acres of the South Meadow including 5 acres of swamp; 10 acres of swamp by the Hartford River; 12 acres by the oxpasture; 2 acres of the Little Meadow; 1 acre of the Little Meadow; and 1 acre of the Little Meadow. During this time the Dutch still had their fort called “House of Hope” by the Hartford Settlement. In 1640 there was a dispute involving an “English minister” taking cut hay from the land without paying for it. It is assumed that Samuel was the offender, intentional or not, because he owned land near the Dutch’s claim. Samuel is noted to have ministered to Mary Johnson in 1648 when she was imprisoned and where she later confessed to murdering a child. In 1662 he and the other reverends were noted to have examined Ann Cole, daughter of John Cole, when she started to have strange fits. Probate records show that Samuel was often given gifts by other settlers in their estates, due to his service to the community and being a leader of the church. He is also noted being a witness or named as the administrator in settlers’ estates. Samuel died on 7/20/1663 in Hartford, Connecticut. His estate inventory included “books” which were valued at an incredible 127 pounds. Elizabeth later remarried to George Gardner and died around 1681.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III by Robert Charles Anderson, pages 1768-1773
  2. Samuel Stone by Edward Irving Carlyle at WikiSource.org. Dictionary of National Biography, Errata (1904), p.259
  3. Samuel Stone (Wikipedia)
  4. Register of All Saints, Cranham, Essex, Essex Record Office, D/P 118/1/1, image 25, cited by Tarbert
  5. Tarbert, Jesse, "The Identity and English Ancestor of Rev. Samuel Stone's First Wife: Rebecca Wright, Granddaughter of Rev. Richard Rogers" in the New England Historical Genealogical Register, Vol. 176, Fall 2022, pp. 388-404, citing many parish registers and wills,
  6. Register of Towcester, Northamptonshire Record Office 329P/255, image 172, viewable on ancestry.com: "ye sone of Mr Samuell Stone & Mrs Rebecca his wife"
  7. [https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/connecticut-vital-records-the-barbour-collection-1630-1870/image?volumeId=12575&pageName=312 the Barbour Collection of Connecticut Town Vital Records, Hartford, p. 311-2 in transcription, citing Vol. D, pp. 3,4,6,7 and FFS, pp. 2,3,5 in the original viewed on americanancestors.org, as to all but Elizabeth and the last child
  8. Center Church, p. 3
  • The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III. (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2010), (Originally Published as: New England Historic Genealogical Society. Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995). Profile for Samuel Stone pages 1768-1773
  • Barbour, Lucius Barnes, 1982, Families of Early Hartford, Connecticut, Genealogical Publishing Co. Inc., Baltimore, Maryland and Connecticut Society of Genealogists, Inc., Glastonbury, Connecticut pp. 587
  • Samuel Stone (1602-1663), by Edward Irving Carlyle at WikiSource.org. Dictionary of National Biography, Errata (1904), p.259
  • "Rev. Samuel Stone." The Founders of Hartford. Society of the Descendants of the Founders of Hartford.
  • American Genealogist, Vol. 36, Pg. 34
  • American Genealogist, Vol. 30, Pg. 159
  • Venn, Alumni Cantabrigienses, Part I (1922-1927) Vol. 4, Pg. 168
  • Morison, The Founding of Harvard College (1935) Pg. 401
  • Winthrop, The History of New England from 1630-1649 (1853), Vol. 1, Pg. 128-30, 137
  • Shurtleff, Records … of the Massachusetts Bay in New England, Vol. 1, Pg. 369
  • The Records of the Town of Cambridge (1901) Pg. 6, 8, 12, 13
  • The Register Book of the Lands and Houses in “New Towne” & ... Cambridge (1896) Pg. 4
  • Original Distribution of the Lands in Hartford, Pg. 348-50
  • Hartford Probate District, Case #5280
  • Manwarning, A Digest of the Early Connecticut Probate Records (1904) Vol. 1, Pg. 4, 18, 32, 41, 43, 65-66, 83, 116, 125, 137, 155, 242-43
  • Stiles, The history and genealogies of ancient Windsor, Connecticut (1891) Pg. 663
  • Historical catalogue of the First Church in Hartford. 1633-1885 (1885) Pg. v, ix, x, 3-4, 10
  • Colonial history of Hartford, Connecticut (1914) Pg. 11-12, 23, 27, 80, 117, 124, 143, 147, 166, 258, 283-85
  • Sprague, William Buell. Annals of the American Pulpit (Robert Carter & Brothers, New York, 1857) Vol. 1, Page 37-8


from ancestor profiles of Joan Jakubowski: Source : The Family of John Stone, One of the First Settlers of Guilford, Conn.; Author William Leete Stone II, Albany 1888, Joel Munsell's Sons: also, free reading at www.archive.org,

Rev. Samuel Stone b1602 mar. 1) Hope Fletcher, 2) Elizabeth ____ who married again after the death of Samuel. Rev. Samuel Stone 1602 is often confused with the Father of William Stone b 1608 & his brother John Stone b 1610, signers of the "Plantation Covenant" 1639; the list of signers from ship 1 & ship 2 are easily found on the Internet, as is the "Plantation Covenant". These are two different families, with no proven connection to date. Free reading of these brothers at www.archive.org.

Rev. Samuel Stone 1602 was the settler of Hartford Colony, Hartford, CT. from Hertford, Hertfordshire England (North of London on the River Lei); William & John Stone were of the first settlers of New Haven Colony 1639 (Guilford, CT., they came from Hereford, Herefordshire, England (Northwest of London on the River Wye), the Saybrook Colony was the other colony in CT.

Note, Edward Seward 1600-1655 m. Anne Lister 7 Nov 1626 Bristol, England & Edward Benton 1600-28 Oct 1680 Guilford (Edward, Andrew, Edward) were settlers of the New Haven Colony. Descendant data found at www.nnyln.org (old newspapers).

Source: 1637 Massacre at Mystic Island, Internet: Rev. Samuel Stone of Hartford Colony lead the prayers, this massacre eliminated the Pequot Indian Issues that threatened the colonies, the surviving Pequots were assimilated into the Narragansetts, allies of Rev. Roger Williams of R.I. (see Pres. Ronald Regan's retribution to the Pequots). See Death of Captain John Stone (SLAVE TRADER) 1634 (from Virginia Colony), slain by Niantics, aboard his ship "Pinnacle" on the Conn. River.

Further Study, find your lost ancestor: Author Dr. Benjamin Franklin Hough 1822-1885, History of Lewis County, NY, History of Jefferson County, NY. Dr. Hough is direct lineage to Amanda Benton 1841-1918, who adopted my Grandfather-Charles B. Spencer 1880-1958.

Stone Family Genealogy: Understanding the early "Founders", requires studying British Online History, "Pedigrees in the Visitations of London", and in part, making a time line of the primary Stone Families. Here is your format.

1) Governor William Henry Stone born about 1603 & 2nd wife Verlinda Graves Ancestry-(Gov. of Maryland)

2) Family of Hugh Stone (blacksmith) 1638-1732 & wife Abigail Busecot 1642-1723 daughter of Peter Busecot (blacksmith).

3) Rev. Samuel Stone of Hartford Colony wife (1) Hope Fletcher, (2) Elizabeth Allen. This Rev. Samuel Stone came from Hertford, Hertfordshire (River Lei) England

4) John Stone 1610-1686 & brother William Stone 1608-1683, sons of Rev. Samuel Stone (from Hertford, Hertfordshire (River Wye) England), the two brothers and their allied families are well defined in the historical document named "Plantation Covenant 1639" from the New Haven Colony. From the Family of John Stone b1608, came the Rev. William Leete Stone who married Tamson Graves, their son William Leete Stone II, authored the book on John Stone, One of the First Settlers of Guilford, Conn., this worthy study puts to rest the discussions in the past.

5) Genealogy of Major Brian Pendleton 1599-1681, Commissioner of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, member of the Ancient & Honorable Artillery Company (NEHGS Records). Descendants of Brian Pendleton are married into my Stone & Allied Family Ancestors

6) Carr House built 1613, the home of John Carr Stone from Much Hoole, England. This profile will link the Stone Ancestors in a format easily understood. Project Study: Richard Stone & Isabel Girdler.





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It appears we need to detach Hope (___) (Unknown-305065) as a spouse, don't we? There is no source cited for this relationship and the recent research published in the Fall 2022 issue of NEHGR appears to establish that his previously unknown first wife was Rebecca Wright, as Halsey as noted below. If anyone objects to detaching Hope, please cite a reliable source for this relationship.
posted by Scott McClain
I have just proposed to accomplish this change by merging Hope ___ Unknown-305065 into the newly created Rebecca Wright-60398. Assuming no objections, of course.

If that merge goes ahead, perhaps we will need to PPP the resulting profile, and Samuel Stone's profile, until the dust settles?

posted by Halsey Bullen
Stone-5134 and Stone-351 appear to represent the same person because: it appears that Stone-5134 is intended to be the well-known Rev Samuel Stone. There is not enough information to be certain, hopefully the creator of Stone 5134 will determine if this is a match. Thank you.
The Fall 2022 issue of the NEHG Register, just distributed, has an article by Jesse Tarbert, "The Identity and English Ancestor of Rev. Samuel Stone's First wife: Rebecca Wright, Granddaughter of Rev. Richard Rogers." That Samuel Stone is the man profiled here. The article, grounded in extensive research in English records, convincingly argues its case. I plan to update this profile, and the profile of Rebecca's father Samuel Wright, and set up a profile for Rebecca, based on Mr. Tarbert's research, unless someone else has undertaken that project or questions the research.
posted by Halsey Bullen
edited by Halsey Bullen
I just read my copy of the same Fall 2022 issue of the NEHG Register, and I agree with you Halsey. I appreciate your willingness to set up a profile for Rebecca and update the profiles for Rev Stone and for Samuel Wright. The information presented by Jesse Tarbert is convincing.

With the many individuals and multiple marriages in this article, it will be challenging to update the relevant profiles, and create the new profiles. Halsey you have already set the standard high, with the changes you made to this profile, and the source references you included. Kudos and best wishes for your upcoming work on Rebecca, et al.

You have my support regarding replacing the undocumented name of Hope with Rebecca, and etc. Thank you for your work, and intentions, on this important early colonial family, with their relationships going back to Rev Richard Rogers. (They are in my husband's lineage.)

Thank you for flagging this and taking on this updating project -- the article is excellent.
posted by Scott McClain
I wanted to comment on the controversy surrounding the connections between John and William Stone who settled Guilford and Rev. Samuel Stone of Hartford. I agree with the belief that Samuel cannot be their father and that there is no hard information connecting these two separate groups of Stones. At the same time there are some Hartford connections in the Guilford Stone family. John Stone's son, John Stone, Jr. marries Susannah Newton who is a daughter of Roger Newton and granddaughter of Thomas Hooker. Both Newton and Hooker lived in Hartford. John's other son, Thomas married Mary Johnson whose family left Guilford for Hartford. William Stone's son, Benajah Stone's first wife, Sarah Shepard was also from Hartford. So if you look at the second generation Guilford Stones as a whole, pretty much everyone is marrying someone who lived in or very close to Guilford OR has some connection to Hartford. So while all of this is circumstantial evidence, I wouldn't completely rule out the two families being connected, somehow.
posted by Josh Stone
edited by Josh Stone
Please see G2G discussion
posted by Anne B
I posted a comment at Stone-6809. However, I just read your latest comment here.

William Stone who sailed to Guilford was probably born about 1610-1615. Therefore, even if his father was named Samuel Stone, that Samuel would have been born well before 1602.

So, if you do not wish to merge, I would recommend that the birth year at Stone-6809 be changed to "about 1590" or "about 1595". That would no doubt end the confusion (and proposals for a merge).

posted by Kenneth Kinman
You are correct that there were lots of John Stones in early New England and even more in Old England.

However, according to the Great Migrations Directory (page 321), there was only one Samuel Stone in New England by 1640 and that is Rev. Samuel Stone (b. 1602). Therefore I see no reason to delay this proposed merge. I have never seen any other Samuel Stone born in England in 1602. However, I would first remove Unknown (Unknown) Stone as his mother. The source given for her seems to indicate a connection with the Guilford Conn. Stone family (which is probably totally unrelated to the Hartford Connecticut Stone family).

posted by Kenneth Kinman
Stone-6809 and Stone-351 do not represent the same person because: Read the sources that I used. My Samuel Stone had nothing to do with Hartford at all. His son, William sailed to Guilford, in what is now Connecticut and with a host of fellow shipmates founded Guilford, which was its own colony for a while. My sources explain this, and contrary to John Schmeeckle's contentions, there were hosts of Samuel and William Stones both in Old and New England in the early 1600's.

The is absolutely nothing clearly duplicitous about my profile.

posted by Dan Sparkman
Stone-6809 and Stone-351 appear to represent the same person because: Stone-6809 was originally a clear duplicate of Stone-351, with the same son. There was only one Rev. Samuel Stone of Hertfordshire with a family in Connecticut.
posted by [Living Schmeeckle]
Stone-6809 and Stone-1648 do not represent the same person because: there is a large amount of contradictory information and otherwise unreliable information in both the profile and the sources used for 1648. See comment at Stone-6809, Stone-6809. This does not necessarily reflect on the genealogical talents or abilities of those proposing this merge, but rather on sources which I consider to be untrustworthy.
posted by Dan Sparkman
Stone-6809 and Stone-1648 appear to represent the same person because: Both profiles are connected to the same son as his father in another requested merge.
posted by Michele Britton
I have noticed in sources of that era, people are often cited as founding this town or that. But the reality is, it takes more than one person to found a town. There would just have to be the numbers there in order to have one. So, when you research ancestors, bear that in mind.
Stone-6809 and Stone-1648 do not represent the same person because: Different death and birth dates and different death place. The wikipedia.org cite listed in the sources gives his (-1648)'sbirth date as 1602. That does not fit with the 1580's birth given for Stone-6809.

At this point in time we are dealing with a ton of Samuel Stones, both in England and in Connecticut colony. They are easily confounded, and it will take a lot of research time to sort them all out. There may easily have been more than one Samuel Stone involved with the founding of Hartford, and much as we all want to claim credit for our ancestors, I have to insist on surety and accuracy in merges.

Simply, more research is needed.

posted by Dan Sparkman
Stone-6809 and Stone-1648 appear to represent the same person because: Hello! These two profiles appear to be for the same person. Please merge.