Born before in Yarmouth, Barnstable, Province of Massachusetts Bay
[uncertain]
Ancestors [uncertain]
Daughter of Jonathan White
and Hester (Nickerson) White
Sister of
Esther (White) Drake, Jonathan White, Ebenezer White, Joseph White, Sarah White and Elizabeth White
Wife of
James Russell
— married
14 Aug 1729 in Yarmouth, Barnstable County, Massachusetts Bay
Descendants 
Mother of
Jonathan (Dill) Dell, James Russell, Job Russell, Barnabas Russell and Mary (Russell) Hinckley
Died after
after age 34
in Province of Massachusetts Bay
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Biography
Mary White was born probably before 1703 (probably in Yarmouth, Massachusetts) and her parents were Hester (Nickerson) and Jonathan White.[1]
On 08 Nov 1719 Mary White was still single and using her maiden name when her first child, Jonathon Dell was born out of wedlock.[1][2]
Mary White married only once on 14 Aug 1729, in Massachusetts, to James Russell.[1] [3]
- "James Russel and Mary White was joined in marriage on the 14th day of August 1729 by Thomas Smith, Clerk" [4]
In the 1736 Will of her father, Jonathan White, she was called "Mary Russell" and her first child was called "grandson Jonathan Dell". [1][5] [3]
Mary was still living at the birth of daughter on 22 Apr 1737, but nothing further of her is known. [1]
Her husband was possibly the James Russell of Yarmouth, Massachusetts, who filed an intention to marry on 21 Apr 1739 to Deborah (Elwell) Carlisle. [1]
Children b: Yarmouth, MA [1]
- Jonathan Dell (by ____ Dell) b: 08 Nov 1719 to "Mary White"; Jonathan Dell (underage) was named in 1736 Will of his grandfather Jonathan White
- James Russell, b: 13 May 1730 n.f.r.
- Job Russell, b: 24 Jun 1732; d: 27 Apr 1733 Yarmouth, MA
- Barnabas Russell, b: 29 Aug 1734
- Mary Russell, b: 22 Apr 1737 n.f.r.
Research Notes
According to the Mayflower Society the father has not been identified, but it is thought to be a lawyer, Henry Dill, who did not live long enough to see his son grow up, having died in 1725.
Sources
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 "Mayflower Families Through Five Generations" v13 p54 Descendents of William White p16 edited by Robert S. Wakefield & published by the General Society of Mayflower Descendants in 2006
- ↑ Yarmouth, Massachusetts: Vital Records 1620-1850], AmericanAncestors.org online database by New England Historic Genealogical Society 2001-2016). Vol 1 p. 61 Link at AmericanAncestors ($) "Jonathan Dell son to Mary White he was born in November the 8th 1719"
- ↑ 3.0 3.1 Probate and Guardianship Records 1674-1950 compiled by Barnstable County, Massachusetts v3-6 (1720-1747); on ancestry.com accessed clerk's copy
- ↑ Massachusetts: Vital Records 1620-1850 (online database: AmericanAncestors.org compiled by New England Historic Genealogical Society 2001-2016); p171 & p145 at AmericanAncestors ($)
- ↑ Will of her father, Jonathan WHITE, dated: 14 July 1736; proved: 22 Feb 1737; named eldest son Jonathan, 3rd son Joseph, son Ebenezer, daughter Elizabeth White (single), daughters Esther Drake, Sarah White & Mary Russell and grandson Jonathan Dell (under age).
- GenForum message thread regarding the alleged Henry Dill.
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It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Mary by comparing test results with other carriers of her mitochondrial DNA. However, there are no known mtDNA test-takers in her direct maternal line. It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Mary:
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I hadn't realized that you posted a comment here as well as sending me an email.
Please be careful about making inaccurate statements about other Wikitree members. Please see:
Help:Don't WikiTree While Angry:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:Don%27t_WikiTree_While_Angry
As I stated in my response to your email, I, in fact, did reach out to a profile manager, Melissa Martin, over a month ago, & never heard from her. I also reached out to the other profile manager of James Russell of Andover &, although active, he never responded.
Additionally, as I stated in my email to you, pre-1700 changes that are "housekeeping", do not require collaboration & only when making "Major changes" to a pre-1700 profile, are those changes "usually discussed in G2G". Note that word, "usually". The James Russell I attached was, genealogically speaking, the same James Russell: marriage date, residence location & children. This is not a major change. In fact, when these two James' were merged in Dec. of 2018, without sufficient evidence, there was no G2G discussion & no one claimed that it was a major change. Please see:
Help:Pre-1700 Profiles:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:Pre-1700_Profiles#Communicating_about_changes
On a personal note, I spent a year and a half trying to find a connection between the two James Russells & their respective families, & had correspondence with interested parties. This after researching the James of Yarmouth for an additional five years previously. I don't make changes lightly & I use primary sources to support my positions, not secondary sources, like the Mayflower Silver Books. Which, can be a good starting point, but are not replacements for original documents or more recent research based on the better access to records researchers now have. When I'm offering educated speculation, I state it directly & I would never intentionally make a major change to ANY profile with just speculation.
Thank you for your consideration.
Nace
PS As I focused on responding to your comment, I neglected to note that Mary White Russell was born circa 1703... according to the Mayflower Families, Vol. 1, pg. 108?. They place Joseph born at circa 1702, Ebenezer born 1698 & the other children even earlier. Does Mary even fit into the pre-1700 category? In fact, Anne B. stated back in October, 2019, presumably when she concluded that Mary White Russell didn't qualify for pre-1700 status : "Doesn't fall in project parameters." Mary's change logs:
https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:NetworkFeed&who=White-2164&l=500&watchlist=0&hideown=0
edited by Nace Few
I am a profile manager of this profile and very active. I have searched my email account and can find no record of ever receiving any communication from Nace.
Instead of sending a message to an inactive PM, next time send the message to an active PM. Also if you had placed a comment on the profiile, I would have been notified & replied.
Thank you for your comment. Unfortunately, I don't understand. There were no duplicates to merge.
James of Andover & James of Yarmouth were already merged two years ago & I made a case in each of their profiles why there wasn't enough evidence to support them being the same man. (I then created James Russell to unmerge them.) If you mean creating duplicates of James & Mary's children & then merging them, my understanding is that if I had knowing created those duplicates that would have been a violation of Wikitree guidelines.
As to contacting you or the Mayflower project, I never did that, for the reasons I explained in my response to Bonnie, so you would not have received an email from me. I sent the email to the profile managers James of Andover.
Please read my response to Bonnie for more details.
Thank you.
Nace
I was referring to merging the 2 James Russell. I consider removing and replacing a spouse to be a major edit, as it affects the whole lineage going backward & forward ... different DNA entirely.
Somewhere I saw it said that in order for James to have married at Yarmouth, he would have had to abandon his Andover responsibilities. That is not true, because it was a well-known practice that marriages would take place at the bride's home location, so the parents could give their daughter away in front of their community. You cannot infer from that fact, that James abandoned his Andover responsibilities.
While I was planning to respond to your last communication privately, I'll post part of it here to answer your questions and comments. There is a misunderstanding, apparently, as I was not angry, and made no inaccurate statements. Tone is sometimes difficult to "read" in written communications. I flagged our Project members and profile managers here via a comment that this profile had been changed without collaboration with the Mayflower Project. If there had been collaboration, I would have expected a manager or trusted list member to reach out to me in response. Please note the Mayflower Project Box displayed on the profile, in case you missed it. It is interesting, also noted by N. Gauthier, that you chose to contact the inactive PM, not the active one.
The relationship changes were made, both to a new husband profile and to the father of her attached children. These are not "housekeeping" changes. Please see: Help:Communication for more specifics. Relationship changes require collaboration in all cases. When there is a project involved, then communication should be done publicly via comments, or via a linked & tagged G2G post.
In future, please post any substantive intended changes to any profile via the comments or using a G2G post in the spirit of collaboration.
Regarding Anne B's comment, she was refering not to a pre-1700 "category," but instead whether or not the profile fits within the parameters of the Mayflower project, and it does. Although currently we stop with births after 1700, we occasionally expand beyond that cut-off date. This one, being a birth simply known as "before 1703" is suitable.
Henry has no known family members the mother and siblings attached to him, are disproven.
WikiTree Guideline on unmarried parents
In 1736 their son Jonathon Dill was named in the last Will of jonathon White, his maternal grandfather.
Since Henry is the father of her son, instead of detaching, I would prefer that a note be placed on the profile that the child was born out of wedlock.