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Robert Abell (abt. 1605 - 1663)

Robert Abell
Born about in Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married before 1639 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusettsmap [uncertain]
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Died at about age 58 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts Baymap
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Robert Abell migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See Great Migration Begins, by R. C. Anderson, Vol. 1, p. 3)
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Biography

Birth and Parents

Robert was the son of George Abell and Frances Cotton. He was born in about 1605.[1][2][3] His birth place is uncertain: Anderson's The Great Migration Begins suggests it was probably Stapenhill, Derbyshire,[1] which was where his father was born, but his father had a residence at Hemington, Leicestershire[2][3] and described himself as "of Hemington, Leicestershire.[4]

Life

In his 1630 will, Robert's father left him only 20 shillings, lamenting that this was due to "the charges I have been at in placing him in a good trade in London which he hath made no use of and since in furnishing him for New England where I hope he now is".[1][2][3][4]

Robert emigrated to Massachusetts with the Winthrop Fleet in 1630.[5] Initially he settled at Weymouth. He was made a freeman of the colony in the winter of 1630/1. See Research Notes.

It is possible he returned to England: there is no further record of him in New England until 1638; and that year a Robert Abell sailed to New England.[1] See Research Notes.

A 1643 record of Weymouth, Massachusetts refers to his having held seven acres in the Weymouth area. That year he moved to Rehoboth:[1][2][3] he is recorded as having bought land there in a record of December 1643. Further grants of land were made in 1646, 1653 and 1658.[6][7] He became an innkeeper.[1][2][3]

In 1657 Robert headed a list of men at Rehoboth who took an oath of fidelity.[1]

Marriage and Children

Before 1639 Robert married Joanna, whose last name at birth is not known. (Her first name is given in letters of administration granted to Joanna for Robert's estate.)[1][2][3] They had the following children:

  • Abraham,[2][3] buried on 14 November 1639[1]
  • Mary, baptised on 11 April 1642, who married the Rev. Samuel Luther[2][3][8] buried on 14 November 1639[1]
  • Preserved,[2][3] possibly born in about 1644[1]
  • Caleb,[2][3] possibly born in about 1647[1]
  • Joshua,[2][3] possibly born in about 1649[1]
  • Benjamin,[2][3] possibly born in about 1651[1]
  • Experience, possibly born in about 1660, who married John Baldwin[1][2][3]
  • another child[2][3] - papers relating to the distribution of Robert's estate refer to his oldest son, his daughter Mary, and five other children, and his son Abraham was already dead. Robert Charles Anderson suggests, based on names of grandchildren, that this child may have been a daughter called Mehitable or Martha, but there is no firm evidence for this.[1]

Death

Robert died at Rehoboth, Massachusetts Bay on 20 June 1663.[9]

His wife was granted letters of administration on 1 March 1663/4.[1][2][3] An inventory of his estate taken on 9 August 1663, shows assets worth some £355, including a house and land worth £130.[1] It was exhibited to the Plymouth Court on 3 March 1663 and deposed unto by Joanna Abell widow.[10]

On 4 June 1667 she married again, her second husband being William Hyde of Norwich, Connecticut.[1][2][3]

Research Notes

Cuthbert Abell has previously been shown on WikiTree as a son of Robert and his wife Joanna. There is no evidence for this. Please see Cuthbert's profile for more information.

Same Robert? Writing about lengthy period from the time he disappeared in the records and then reappeared, Anderson wrote "further research may determine that the records ... actually pertain to two men named Robert Abell, one who was in New England in 1630 and 1631, and a second who had arrived by 1639 ..."[11]

Sources

  1. 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 1.14 1.15 1.16 1.17 1.18 Robert Charles Anderson. The Great Migration Begins, Vol. I, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1995, pp. 3-6, American Ancestors (New England Historic Genealogical Society website) and Ancestry.co.uk
  2. 2.00 2.01 2.02 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 2.08 2.09 2.10 2.11 2.12 2.13 2.14 2.15 Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011), Vol. I, p. 2, ABELL 13, Google Books
  3. 3.00 3.01 3.02 3.03 3.04 3.05 3.06 3.07 3.08 3.09 3.10 3.11 3.12 3.13 3.14 3.15 Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), Vol. I, p. 107, ABELL 13
  4. 4.0 4.1 The National Archives, ref. PROB 11/159/158, Will of Georg Abell, Gentleman of Hemington, Leicestershire, Discovery Centre catalogue entry
  5. Charles Edward Banks. The Winthrop Fleet of 1630, Houghton Mifflin, 1930, p. 57, Internet Archive
  6. Carl Boyer 3rd. Medieval Ancestors of Robert Abell, the author, 2001, pp. 2-3, Familysearch
  7. Horace A Abell and Lewis P Abell. The Abell Family in America, Turtle Publishing Company, 1940, pp. 43-46, Familysearch
  8. Leslie L Luther, revised by George A Luther. The Luther Genealogy. A History of the Descendants of Captain John Luther, privately printed, 2001, pp. 73-74, Familysearch
  9. "Massachusetts, Town Clerk, Vital and Town Records, 1626-2001," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QG1K-S215 : 6 May 2022), Robert Abell, 20 Jun 1663; citing Death, , Massachusetts Secretary of the Commonwealth, Boston; FHL microfilm 007578641
  10. "Massachusetts, Plymouth County, Probate Records, 1633-1967," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-997D-VSJZ : 7 March 2023), Wills 1633-1686 vol 1-4 > image 215 of 616; State Archives, Boston. Page 15-16
  11. Referencing "The Winthrop Fleet by Robert Charles Anderson [2012]," Penelope L. Stratton and Henry B. Hoff, Guide to Genealogical Writing: How to Write and Publish Your Family History (New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2014; epub 2017), Chapter 4 (as location 522 of 4303).
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Acknowledgements

Magna Carta Project

This profile was re-reviewed for the Magna Carta Project by Michael Cayley on 27 June 2022.
Robert Abell is listed in Magna Carta Ancestry as a Gateway Ancestor (vol. I, pages xxiii-xxix) in a Richardson-documented trail to Magna Carta Surety Baron Saher de Quincy (vol. I, pages 1-2 ABELL). This trail was developed for the Magna Carta Project by Jayme Arrington and reviewed/approved/badged in September 2017 by Liz Shifflett. See the Magna Carta Trails on his mother's profile to view the profiles on this trail.
See Base Camp for more information about identified Magna Carta trails and their status. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as a "badged trail".






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According to a secondary reference to the material, in 2012 Robert Charles Anderson (The Winthrop Fleet: Massachusetts Bay Company) noting that he disappeared from the records until 4 December 1638, following some discussion, "future research may determine that the records in this sketch actually pertain to two men named Robert Abell."

How did we address this? --Gene

See Penelope L. Stratton and Henry B. Hoff, Guide to Genealogical Writing: How to Write and Publish Your Family History (New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2014; epub 2017), Chapter 4 (as location 522 of 4303).

posted by GeneJ X
edited by GeneJ X
Thanks, Gene. Please see what is said in the bio. The para beginning ”It is possible” is carefully worded to indicate that the Robert Abell who sailed to New England in 1638 may be a different person.

I do not have access to Anderson's 2012 work so do not know what the discussion in it says and how far, if at all, it expands or modifies what is said about Robert Abell in The Great Migration Begins. For what it is worth, Douglas Richardson, in both his 2011 Magna Carta Ancestry and his 2013 Royal Ancestry, gives most of the information recorded in the bio, and all the family relationships shown. I cannot speak for PGM, which co-manages this profile, but the policy of the Magna Carta Project is to follow Richardson on relationships unless there is good evidence for not doing so.

Do you have specific suggestions for improving this profile? If so, please make them, with appropriate sourcing, and preferably with some suggested wording. Do you want to suggest, for instance, a research note?

posted by Michael Cayley
edited by Michael Cayley
Hi Michael,

Thank you for your response. The source quoted several of Anderson's comments, enough that I felt the information was given in context.

I added a research note. --Gene

posted by GeneJ X
I have detached previously shown son Cuthbert, and added a research note.
posted by Michael Cayley
I plan to do some work soon on this profile for the Magna Carta Project

- now DONE

posted by Michael Cayley
edited by Michael Cayley
This looks like a well researched web resource. I added it to the "See also" section
posted by Raymond Watts PhD
I changed the marriage info... from before 1638 to before 1639 (to match text in his profile) & removed "United States" from location (to clear DBE "USA too early"), but I didn't add text to support the marriage location that was added, Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts, which is from Joanna's profile: married "about 1638 probably in Rehoboth", citing The Abell Family in America, by Horace Avery Abell (Ruthland, VT: The Tuttle Publishing Co., 1940).
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Verified in trail to Quincy-226 (reviewed to Berkeley-6, which had been verified to Quincy in a trail from Fisher-6749). The project account for the Magna Carta Project will be added as a manager later this month to meet WikiTree guidelines (see Help:Project-Managed_Profiles). Give me a holler if you have any questions. ~ Liz, Magna Carta project member
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
External links to ancestry tree for Plantagenet Line &

Colonial descendants of Iseult de Mortimer are no longer valid

posted by Lydia Vierson
Found this NEHGS article on Abell ancestry that is interesting [1]
posted by Lydia Vierson
I don't think Samuel Abell Abell-46 of Maryland is a member of this family.
Robert Abell (1605 - 1663) of Weymouth and Rehoboth, Mass is from the Derby Branch in England. Joanna, his Wife, married William Hyde of Conn, after Robert's death. Their children lived in Mass and Conn.

There is a Capt Robert Abell born in Rehoboth, Mass who came in the 1700's. He may or may not be this branch of the Abell family.

There is a 3rd Robert Abell - Capt Robert Abell who came from England to Maryland, I believe, in the 1700's. This Abell family lived in Maryland and Virginia. They may or may not be a branch of this Abell line.

There are Abell's who went from England to Canada but are not part of this Abell line.

Please refer to the Book, "The Abell Family in America: Robert Abell of Rehoboth, Mass., ...", Tuttle Publishing Co, (1940).

Note: There are several branches of the Abell Family with different Coat of Arms. Robert Abell (1605-1663) is from the Derby Branch. The Coat of Arms has a saltaire cross (an "x") with 9 gold fleur de lis on a blue and white shield.

This line needs to be merged with Abel-948. Thoughts on the correct Last name at birth. PGM guidelines say to go with Anderson's naming convention which in Abell
posted by Anne B
This line needs to be merged with Abell-9. Thoughts on the correct Last name at birth? PGM guidelines say to go with Anderson's naming convention which in Abell
posted by Anne B
Abell-9 and Abell-491 are not ready to be merged because: Birth years and birthplaces don't match but date of death and location of death do
posted by Alyson (X) Dossett
Abell-9 and Abell-491 appear to represent the same person because: 491 appears to be a bare bones entry for what 9 is doing with much more documentation. The only element of 491 that would attract use is the traditionally believed home of Robert Abell being in Stapenhill, Derby, rather than in Yorkshire. Birthplace should be cleared up.
posted by Carolyn Adams