Johannis Aldrich (abt. 1561 - aft. 1610)

Born about 25 Oct 1561 in St. Augustine's Parish, Norwich, Norfolk, England

Husband of Agnes (Rolfe) Aldrich — married 9 Feb 1583 in Worstead, Norfolk, England

Descendants

Died after 11 Jan 1610 after about age 48 in Worstead, Norfolk, England

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Note: The baptismal image attached was posted to Geni by Pam Wilson, to show that John Aldrich was not listed as being born/baptized in October 1558 in Worsetad.^[1]

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Biography

John Aldrich (Aldridge) married Agnes Rolfe on February 9, 1583/84^[2] in Worstead, Norfolk, England.

Name

• John Aldriche^[3]
• John Aldrich^[3]

Marriage & Children

John married at Worstead Parish (Norfolk, England) on 9 February 1583/84, Agnes Rolfe.^[4][5] Their marriage is shown in a record book of Norfolk, England Parish Registers for the period 1581-1590 (under "A" and also "R").

The record book also shows Aldriche births:

• Imma (1585)
• John (1588)
• Grace (1590)

The Worstead Parish Registers contain these entries:^[4]

• 1583/1584 9 Feb. John Aldriche & Agnes Roffe (or Rosse or Rolfe).
• 1585 25 Dec.: Emma d. Johannis Aldrich.
• 1588 3 Oct.: Johannis s. Johannis Aldrich.^[6]
• 1590 8 Nov.: Gracia d. Johannis Aldrich.^[7]
• 1595/1596 2 Feb.: Edmund Boutman & Anna Aldrich [apparently a different woman than Agnes (Rolfe) Aldrich] - Noland-165
• 1596/1597 2 Jan.: Willmus s. Agnetis Aldriche.^[8]
• 1598/1599 25 Feb.: Radelph s. Johannis Aldrich
• 1610 11 Jan.: Agnethis wife of John Aldrich.
• 1613 2 Feb.: Barthrum Seeke & Emma Aldrich
• 1626 2 July: Clement Aldrich & Susan Boswell.

Facts Needing Support

Parents: John and Margaret / Margaretta Aldrich (Aldriche), of St. Augustine's, Norwich. (From Aldrich Researcher Pam Wilson's Geni page) Pam Wilson surmises that this couple's son John "born in St. Augustine's Parish, Norwich, and baptized there 25 October 1561" is most likely the John who married Agnes, saying:

"After studying all of the Aldrich families in Norfolk of the 16th century listed in extant records, ... I can find no other marriage or death records matching this John Aldrich. If so, this would make John age 23 at his marriage to Agnes, which is a realistic age for a first marriage."

Death: January 11, 1609, Worstead, Norfolk, England.

On her Geni page for John, Pam Wilson notes that there is no record of John's death and that Agnes (died 1610), is "listed as the 'wife of John Aldrich,' which would presume that John was still alive." She also notes that "there is no record of John's death. ... January 11, 1610 [is] his wife's date of burial, not his. His burial date is not listed for that year."

Son: Clement

Pam Wilson suggests that Clement is probably a nephew rather than a son, since there is no record of his birth in Worstead (where John probably settled after marrying there).^[4][9]

Daughter: Margaret (Aldred) Sayre^{[citation needed]}

Disputed Parents

Parents are not known. Based on Pam Wilson's search of records, she concludes that the only record found that fits this John is one for John "born in St. Augustine's Parish, Norwich, and baptized there 25 October 1561", son of John and Margaret / Margaretta Aldrich (Aldriche).^[4]

Profiles attached as John's parents - John Aldrich and Margaret Browne - appear to be the couple identified by Pam Wilson, but no maiden name is given by her for Margaret. The relationship in WikiTree had been marked as confident, which I believe is not supported by the information provided. I changed the relationship for both parents to "uncertain." Noland-165 23:16, 27 June 2016 (EDT)

Henry Aldred: It has been supposed that John Aldrich was the son of Henry Aldred and his wife Elizabeth (Elizabeth Margaret Cawell, usually). It appears that the Henry Aldred in question was actually born around 1547 (matriculated at Trinity College in 1563), so he would have been too young to have been John's father.^[10] This connection is not proven. And Pam Wilson's research appears to disprove it also (see her Geni pages), specifically:

"NOTE: IF THE REV. HENRY ALDRED IS LISTED AS FATHER OF JOHN, THIS IS INCORRECT, in spite of the perpetuation of this belief in the 1960s and 1970s by Allred (1965), Boddie (1966), Aldridge (1975) and continued by Sekanick (1994). In fact, Rev. Henry Aldred was younger than John Aldrich, and their names were always spelled distinctly, even on the same pages, as Aldred and Aldrich, respectively. ...

"He married at Worstead Parish (Norfolk, England) on 9 February 1583-4, AGNES ROLFE or ROFFE. (Another reading of this surname in the register gives it as ROSSE)" ^[11]

"Son" Clement

from Pam Wilson's geni records (continued from Pam's information about Henry, under Parents):

This may have also been the case with Clement [not from Worstead], who is of the right age to have been John's son but for whom no birth record can be found in the Worstead Parish Register. He may have been John's nephew or other relative who came to Worstead to marry.

Notes

• Aldridge family - England to America, Ancestry image
• The Aldridge Family: England to America, by Robert Newton Aldridge Jr., is an appendix to Alldredge-Aldridge-Bracen-Nesmith Families, by Memory Aldridge Lester. Chapel Hill, North Carolina, 1957 (privately printed). Memory's book is available online for free through the Hathi Trust (the appendix starts on page 203).
• Aldridge Crest, Ancestry image
• Allred of North Carolina, 2, Ancestry image
• Aldridge-Allred Family of England and Northumberland County, VA, Ancestry image
• Arlidge Family Pedigree, Ancestry image
• Allred of North Carolina, Part 1, Ancestry image

Sources

1. ↑ See this Geni page, where Pam Wilson says "I'm not sure where the date of birth and location originated. After looking at the Worstead Parish Register for 1558, there is no listing there for his birth in October of that year. I've attached a copy of that listing to the profile. So it is likely that he was born elsewhere in Norfolk."
2. ↑ Prior to 1752 (when England switched to the Gregorian calendar), the new year started in March (see Sue Roe's article, "The Problem of Dates"), which is why dates for events that occurred in January, February, or March are sometimes written with a double year (e.g., 1583/84).
3. ↑ ^{3.0 3.1} Family Search image
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3} Aldrich Researcher Pam Wilson's Geni page for John (Johannis) Aldrich or Aldridge (accessed June 27, 2016)
5. ↑ Family Search
6. ↑ Pam Wilson added the note: seems to read "Domino tertio in Octobre"--third Sunday in October?
7. ↑ Pam Wilson added the note: This last name does not appear to be Aldrich. It starts with an M.
8. ↑ Pam notes here (to refute story that John's wife "Ann" Aldridge had married again during an extended absense of John): If Agnes had married Boutman a year before, then why would she be listed as Aldrich here? Also, in that case, Boutman would be William's father and he would be listed as the son of Edmund Boutman. It is irregular that he is listed as Agnes' son and not as Johannis', however.
9. ↑ see also Pam Wilson's Arledge site, specifically this page about Clement's son
10. ↑ Pam Wilson's Possible Ancestors of Clement Aldridge (last updated 2006)
11. ↑ Pam continues to show information for register, which is not included in the book available through Family Search

See also:

• Pam Wilson's Arledge Family History (accessed October 29, 2014)
• Pam Wilson's Arledge Family History Project (on Facebook; accessed October 29, 2014 - no account needed to view page)

Acknowledgments

• The WikiTree profile Allred-399 was created through the import of Holman Family Tree.ged on 06 March 2011.
• X Gorby created the WikiTree profile Aldred-33 on Jan 21, 2013.
• The WikiTree profile Aldridge-440 was created through the import of Turley_McCormick _ Davis_Barke.ged on Apr 6, 2013 by Elaine Jeffries.
• William Howard created the WikiTree profile Aldrich-410 through the import of WB Howard 050913.ged on May 10, 2013.
• The WikiTree profile Aldrich-689 was created by Liz Shifflett, Wednesday, October 29, 2014.
• The WikiTree profile Aldredge-19 was created by Terry Childress, Wednesday, August 6, 2014.
• The WikiTree profile Aldred-37 was created by Heath Vogel through the import of Vogel Wiki Upload.ged on Jan 22, 2013.

Note: Aldrich was proposed (in G2G) as best surname, based on Norfolk records, which had both Aldrich and Aldriche. Therefore, I protected this profile (under the Arborists project) to facilitate merges with profiles using other spellings. If birth/baptismal evidence is found to support a different spelling, please start another G2G discussion. Thanks!