Elizabeth (Unknown) Mountjoy
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Elizabeth (Unknown) Mountjoy (abt. 1635 - abt. 1707)

Elizabeth Mountjoy formerly [surname unknown] aka Monroe, Horner
Born about in Colony of Virginiamap [uncertain]
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married 1653 in Colony of Virginiamap
Wife of — married 1679 in Westmoreland County, Colony of Virginiamap
Wife of — married about 1685 in Colony of Virginiamap
Descendants descendants
Died about at about age 72 in Stafford County, Colony of Virginiamap
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Biography

Elizabeth (unknown) wife of Andrew Monroe, George Horner and Edward Mountjoy[1]

According to geni.com, her parents were John Alexander and Catherine Graham.

Early Life

Nothing is known of Elizabeth's early life. Since colonial marriages often took place early and if it is presumed she was married by 1652 and married when she was 17, her birth year could be estimated as, say, 1635.

Mike Marshall estimates her birth as 1636 in England.[2]

However, her third husband Edward Mountjoy was born about 1664. Did he marry a widow nearly 30 years older than he was? Perhaps he did, or perhaps Elizabeth was born much later. Perhaps she was a later wife of Andrew Monroe and not the mother of his children. There appears to be no specific evidence that she was the mother of the children of Andrew Monroe.

Her parents are unknown. Gary Roberts, author of "Ancestors of American Presidents," reports her Elizabeth, "sometimes called Alexander".[3] Mike Marshall's Colonial Virginia site which is generally reliable, gives her father as John Alexander, born about 1603 in England, and died 5 October 1677 in Stafford County, Virginia [2] but acknowledges this is unproven. Marshall gives Elizabeth's mother as Catherine Graham, born before 1620 in Gartmore, Scotland and d. Bef 1663, Stafford County, Virginia. If Elizabeth was born into this family around 1636, she would have been the eldest child, but there is no reason to believe this family had a daughter Elizabeth.

One difficulty with placing her in a John Alexander family is that there was more than one such family in Virginia at this time.

Her birth place is unknown. If she was born into the John Alexander family she might have been born in Virginia or in England. The Alexanders, however, tend to be a Scottish rather than English family, and Elizabeth married a Scotsman.

1652 First Marriage to Andrew Monroe

Gary Roberts, author of "Ancestors of American Presidents," reports that by 1652, Andrew Monroe, ancestor of President James Monroe, had married Elizabeth, "sometimes called Alexander". [3]

Andrew had been born in Scotland and, having come to St. Marys County, Maryland by 1642, he was of Westmoreland Co, Virginia, by 1650. [3]

The Andrew Monroe who was an immigrant in St. Mary's County, Maryland (1642-1647) and later of Westmoreland County, Virginia, was not the Major Andrew Munro, second son of David Munro of Katewell and Agnes Munro of Durness, and rector of St. Luke's Church, Newport Parish, Isle of Wight County, Virginia, who died intestate in 1719. [4]

Andrew Monroe died in 1668[1][3][5], or before 1668[6], and was buried at Doctor's Point, Westmoreland, County.[7]

The date of the marriage of Elizabeth to Andrew Monroe is unknown.

1679 Second Marriage to George Horner

Elizabeth married secondly, George Horner.[1][3] Her second marriage occurred before July 30, 1679.[8]

30 July 1679: The estate of Andrew Monroe as devided amongst the children, that in case of the mortality of either of the children, his estate ought desend to the surviveing children in equall shares, and Bunch Roe who married Eliz one of the surviveing Children of Andrew Monroe, Sergeant, and Bunch Roe...did arrest Geo: Horner who married the relict and administratrix of Andrew Monroe for his part of Geo: Monroe one of the children's estate, he being deceased, the Court doth order that Horner Make payment to Bunch Roe of his equall part of Geo. Monroe's estate.[9]

1686 Third Marriage to Edward Mountjoy

Elizabeth married thirdly, Edward Mountjoy, the marriage taking place before February 23, 1686-7.[1][3][10][11]

20 Feb 1693: "Know all men by these presents that I Edward Mountjoy and Elizabeth my wife of the county of Stafford, doe for the consideration of 1300 pounds of good tobacco in casks to be paid yearly, and every year, during my said wife's natural life by Andrew Monroe of the County of Westmoreland and his heirs doe bargain, alien and sell all my right and title of Dower and thirds, of all Lands & Tenements, houses, orchards, mines or minerals whatsoever, which did belong or now doth belong to me the said Edward Mountjoy and Elizabeth my wife, as her right of Dower and thirds of Lands as aforesaid, and Law, custom or usage to the contrary notwithstanding as Witness our hands and seals this 20 day of February 1693. Edward Mountjoy (Seal), Elizabeth Mountjoy (Seal). Witness: Bunch Roe, Rodger Humphries".[11] [Cited Westmoreland Wills & Deeds, No. 2, 1691-1699, p. 71]. King[10] described this transaction as Edward Mountjoy and Elizabeth, his wife, of Stafford County, deeded to her son Andrew Monroe, all her dower interest in the Westmoreland estate of her deceased husband. However, he may have made an assumption that Andrew Monroe was her son, the transcript of the deed does not state that Andrew Monroe was her son.

On "03 Sept 1705 he [Edward Mountjoy] sold with Elizabeth his wife 330 acres of land to Thomas James, for 16,000 pounds of tobacco, being part of the land he had obtained from Henry Thompson on Potomack Run 05 Jan 1689".[10][11] [Cited Stafford County Will Book, Lieber Z., 1699-1709, p. 286].

13 Feb 1705/1706: Captain Henry Coniers (Conyers) bought the Water Mill at the head of Potomack Creek for 6,000 pounds of tobacco . On this occasion Elizabeth Mountjoy acknowledged her dower. Previously she had named Henry Conyers her lawful attorney for the release to Thomas James 03 Sept 1705.[11] [Cited Stafford County Will Book, Lieber Z., 1699-1709, p. 307].

Death

13 Jan 1708/1709: The last entry in the Stafford Liber Z in which Edward Mountjoy figured. He assigned some land to William Barber. "As Elizabeth Mountjoy his wife does not release her dower, there is reason to suppose that she had died before that date."[11] [Cited Stafford County Will Book, Lieber Z., 1699-1709, p. 436].

In the early 1700s Edward Mountjoy and his wife were based in Stafford County and hence it is presumed that both died in Stafford County, Elizabeth around 1707 and Edward Mountjoy around 1712. A deed of 1723 referenced the will of an Edward Mountjoy of Stafford County in 1712.[10][12]

Children

As the date of the marriage of Elizabeth to Andrew Monroe is uncertain (although it is presumed to be c 1652) it is unclear which, if any, of the children of Andrew Monroe are also the children of Elizabeth.

Elizabeth and her first husband Andrew Monroe had six children [no source for this]. Their household also included George Monroe, Andrew's child by his first unnamed marriage. He must have died early because Elizabeth and Andrew also had a child named George -- and he also died early.

  1. Mary Monroe b abt 1655, Westmoreland County, Virginia, d. 15 Jan 1660/61, Westmoreland County, Virginia (Age ~ 6 years)[2]
  2. Andrew Monroe II, b. 1661, Washington Parish, Westmoreland County, Virginia, d. 9 Jun 1714, Westmoreland County, Virginia - Probate (Age 53 years)[2]
  3. Elizabeth Monroe was born about 1662, Washington Parish, Westmoreland County, Virginia and died bef 1708, Westmoreland County, Virginia (Age ~ 45 years)[2] Elizabeth is named as one of the surviving children of Andrew Monroe, Sergeant in a suit of her husband Bunch Roe against Elizabeth's mother's new husband, George Horner. [13]
  4. William Monroe, b. 1666, Washington Parish, Westmoreland County, Virginia, d. 26 Apr 1737, Westmoreland County, Virginia - Probate (Age 71 years)[2]
  5. George Monroe was born bef 1668, Westmoreland County, Virginia, d. Bef 1679, Westmoreland County, Virginia (Age < 11 years)[2]
  6. Susannah Monroe, b. Abt 1668, Washington Parish, Westmoreland County, Virginia [2] Married Weedon.

Her second husband George Horner had a son from a previous marriage. It is presumed that Elizabeth did not have any children with George Horner or Edward Mountjoy.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Payne, B and King G H S. The Monroe Family. William and Mary Quarterly. 2nd Series, Vol 13, 1933, pp 230-241 jstor.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 2.7 Mike Marshall. Early Colonial Settlers of Southern Maryland and Virginia's Northern Neck Counties Profile of Elizabeth Anlexander Accessed Nov 2, 2018 jhd This site provides NO proof of data on Elizabeth
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 Gary Boyd Roberts. Ancestors of American Presidents. 2009 Edition. New England Historical Genealogical Society, Boston, Massachusetts, 2009. page 18
  4. Roberts points to the proof of this in Clan Munro Magazine, No 6 (1959-60) 14-18, ("An Unsolved Problem: President James Monroe's Scottish Ancestry" by George H. S. King, Cited by Gary Boyd Roberts. Ancestors of American Presidents. 2009 Edition. New England Historical Genealogical Society, Boston, Massachusetts, 2009. page 229
  5. Encyclopedia of Virginia Biography. Vol. I, 1915, p 293 HathiTrust.
  6. Monroe Family. William and Mary College Quarterly. Series 1 Vol 15, 1907, pp 192-195 HathiTrust.
  7. Becky Bass Bonner and Josephine Lindsay Bass. My Southern Family Updated 29 May 2005. Accessed October 30l 3018 jhd
  8. A marriage record shows Elizabeth Alexander, born 1630, married to George Horner. (Yates Publishing. U. S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900. Electronic Database.) This would likely be a different person because the custom of the time would have shown her as being Elizabeth Monroe, not Elizabeth Alexander, when entering her second marriage.
  9. Early Colonial Settlers of Southern Maryland and Virginia's Northern Neck Counties. George Horner (Cited Westmoreland County, Virginia, Order Book 1679-1682, p 5) colonial.
  10. 10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 King, G H S. Copies of Extant Wills from Counties whose Records have been Destroyed. Tyler's Quarterly Historical and Genealogical Magazine. Vol 26 (1944-1945), Part 2 Oct. 1944, pp 99-104 family search.
  11. 11.0 11.1 11.2 11.3 11.4 Louis des Cognets, Jr. A Postcript about the Garrard Family. In: Governor Garrard of Kentucy. His Descendants and Relatives. 1962. The Mountjoy Family pp 233-248 pdf.
  12. Stafford County VA Deed Book J; 1722-1728; The Antient Press, pp. 67-75 (presumed alternative citation: Sparacio, Ruth & Sam. Stafford County, Virginia Deed Abstracts 1722-1728, 1755-1765. The Antient Press, 1987).
  13. John Frederick Dorman. Westmoreland County, Virginia Order Book 1679-1682. page 5 (30 July 1679) Cited by Mike Marshall. Early Colonial Settlers of Southern Maryland and Virginia's Northern Neck Counties Andrew Monroe. Accessed October 31, 2018 jhd

See also:

  • Susan Kellar Ratcliffe, Michael Kellar and Catharine Monroe of Fairfax County, Virginia (Gateway Press: Baltimore, 2002)
  • http://www.clanmunrousa.org/gen/getperson.php?personID=I433&tree=1
    (1) Clan Munro files - Redden, Virginia R. - "William and Mary College Quarterly" - Series 1, Vol. 15 - p. 192
    (2) Clan Munro files - Redden, Virginia R. - Descendancy chart for Andrew Monroe (ca. 1615-1668) - signed with initials "MDH" and dated 18 Sep 1987
    (3) Clan Munro files - Redden, Virginia R. - "The Monroe Family of Virginia" - compiled by Nancy E. Harris - Jul 1988 - p. 7
    (4) Clan Munro files - Cataluna, Esther R. - The Ancestry of Esther Cataluna - dated 7 jan 1998 - p. 1
    (5) Clan Munro files - Grayson, Nathaniel Lewis, III - Descendants of David Munro - p. 1
    Compiled and edited by Allen Alger, Genealogist, Clan Munro Association, USA
  • Geni Elizabeth Alexander Added by: Dianna Lynn Ordway on June 8, 2007; Managed by:Margaret (C) and 25 others; Curated by: Erica Howton. Accessed October 30, 2018 jhd
  • Virginia, U.S., Marriages of the Northern Neck of Virginia, U.S., 1649-1800; Ancestry Record 5063 #14702; Name: Elizabeth Horner; Marriage Date: Abt 1685; Spouse Name: Edward Mountjoy; Marriage Location: Virginia, United States. Image




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I'm not sure if these resources were used but just in case I wanted to leave them here in easy copy and paste format:

Munro, R. W. The Munro tree : a genealogy and chronology of the Munros of Foulis and other families of the clan : a manuscript compiled in 1734 / edited with introd. and notes by R. W. Munro Munro Edinburgh 1978. card 346, 385

For further verification of an "Elizabeth Alexander Monroe" name:

  • Boggs, Elizabeth Monroe, Elizabeth Monroe Boggs, "William and Mary College Quarterly Historical Magazine " - Vol. XIII #4 - Oct 1933 - The Monroe Family - p. 231-241

This is the citation followed by link to images for the Christening of Elizabeth Alexander with same parents mentioned in the Bio- SHOULD this become the "accepted" individual:

[1]

Lastly a findagrave memorial:

  • Find a Grave, database and images (www.findagrave.com/memorial/179023198/elizabeth-monroe : accessed 18 July 2021), memorial page for Elizabeth Alexander Monroe (unknown–1677), Find a Grave Memorial ID 179023198, ; Maintained by The Cemetery Lady (contributor 47893478) Body lost or destroyed, who reports a Lost to time.

[2]

I just wanted to add a few things from my notes in case they led to further help with the profile but if not then the comment can just be ignored :) Cheers! Becky Elizabeth

posted by Becky Simmons
Can you give me the specific verbiage from "William and Mary College Quarterly Historical Magazine " - Vol. XIII #4 - Oct 1933 - The Monroe Family - p. 231-241? I can find nothing to indicate even that her name was Elizabeth from that article. It merely says that Andrew married and had issue, from whom it is believed that President Monroe descended.
posted by Robin Lee
Alexander-5430 and Alexander-1921 appear to represent the same person because: Straighten out the death date and merge them as Elizabeth was the wife of Major Andrew Monroe
posted by David Hughey Ph.D.

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