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James Angell (abt. 1600 - 1638)

James "The Fishmonger" Angell
Born about in Englandmap
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Husband of — married 2 Feb 1625 in London, Englandmap
Died at about age 38 in London, Englandmap
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Biography

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James Angell was born in England.

James "The Fishmonger" Henry Angell was born in 1584 in Mulchelney, Dorset, England. He married Mary (Honeychurch) Angell in 1616. They had seven children. He died in 1638 in London, England.

James and Mary were not the parents of immigrant Thomas Angell See his profile.

Marriage and Children

Married: Ann Elliott on 2 February 1624/5 at All Hallows Bread Street parish in London, England.[1] This was the home parish of his wife. She was the daughter of Daniel and Judith Elliott.
Children of James Angell and Ann Elliott:[2]
  1. Mary Angell. Baptized on 26 March 1626 at All Hallows Bread Street parish in London.[3]
  2. James Angell. Baptized on 29 April 1627 at All Hallows Bread Street parish. He died on 29 March 1628.[4]
  3. Judith Angell. Baptized on 22 February 1629/30 at All Hallows Bread Street parish.[5]
  4. Ann Angell. Baptized on 1 April 1631 at St. Stephen Coleman Street parish in London.[6] She presumably died by 1636 when a sister of the same name was baptized.
  5. Thomas Angell. Baptized on 22 September 1635 in Enfield, Middlesex, England.[7] He was not the New England immigrant as once thought. He died on 9 August 1638 at Enfield.[8]
  6. Ann Angell. Baptized on 13 October 1636 in Enfield, Middlesex, England.[9] She was buried on 15 August 1637.[10]
  7. William Angell. Baptized on 30 January 1637/8 in Enfield, Middlesex, England.[11]

Death

Buried: 6 April 1638
Will: of James Angell, citizen and fishmonger of London
Made on 31 March 1638; proved on 26 April 1638.
Summary:
one third part to my loving wife Ann
one third part divided equally between my six children (not named other than Thomas)
one third part reserved for bequests
to the poor of Enfield (if buried there)
to my sons at age 21...
to my daughters at age 21 or when married...
my son Thomas...

Common Errors to avoid

  • Father of Thomas Angell: This James Angell is commonly found on the internet as the father of the New England immigrant Thomas Angell. This cannot possibly be true and has been disproved. James Angell did have a son Thomas, however, he was born in 1635 which is much too late to be the immigrant.
  • Incorrect middle name: James is commonly found on the internet with the name James Henry Angell. The double named "James Henry" probably comes from two different traditions. One says Thomas was the son of Henry Angell of Liverpool, and another says he was the son of James mentioned previously.
  • Incorrect wife: He is sometimes said to have married Mary Honeychurch. This is incorrect. He married Ann Elliott and is not known to have had any other wives.

Sources

  1. Smith. Ancestry of Emily Jane Angell. (1992): page 23.
  2. Smith. Ancestry of Emily Jane Angell. (1992): pages 23-25.
  3. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JM2K-WY3), Mary Angell, 1626.
  4. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5GR-KZS), James Angell or Aungell, 1627.
  5. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5GR-WP), Judith Angell, 1629.
  6. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLGW-ZQ4), Anne Angell, 1631.
  7. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQY8-V9V), Thomas Angell, 1635.
  8. "England, Middlesex Parish Registers, 1539-1988", database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:68F8-19LG), Thomas Angell, 1638.
  9. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQY8-ZB9), Ann Angell, 1636.
  10. "England, Middlesex Parish Registers, 1539-1988", database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6ZKT-3N91), Ann Angell, 1637.
  11. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J3CC-BW5), William Angell, 1637.
  • Dean Crawford Smith and Melinda Lutz Sanborn. "The Angells and Roger Williams: Thomas Angell of Providence, R.I., Was Not a Son of James Angell of London," in The American Genealogist, volume 66 (1991): pages 129-132. Available at AmericanAncestors.org.
  • Smith, Dean Crawford. The Ancestry of Emily Jane Angell, 1844-1910. (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1992). Available at Internet Archive.
  • James Angell.

[1]

  • The Olney Connection.

James Henry ANGELL. [2]

  • 4692.Henry James Angell, born 1584 in Mulchelney, Dorsetshire, England; died 1638 in London, England.He was the son of 9384. William Angell and 9385. Elizabeth Holland.

Child of Henry James Angell is: 2346 i. William Angell, born 1610; died 1659 in Lancaster County, Virginia. [3]

  • Angell James (Henry)

Male 1584 - 1635 (51 years) [4]

Acknowledgments:
  • This profile was created through the import of greenwald-millerGEDCOM.ged on 27 September 2010.
  • Thank you to Lee Heindel for creating WikiTree profile Angell-464 through the import of Krecker_2013-07-22.ged on Jul 22, 2013.




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I have dna connections with his sister Catherine Pemberton (Angell) and through his son Reverend John Henry. I am a direct descendant of Thomas Angell and several other DNA connections that links Thomas to James. I am quite confident that Thomas Angell the immigrant is James Henry Angells son
posted by Sean Angell
edited by Sean Angell
DNA cannot possibly help in this problem. It is too many generations back for autosomal DNA to be of use, and Y-dna can only tell you they were from the same Angell family but not which generation. The reference given is conclusive:

Dean Crawford Smith and Melinda Lutz Sanborn. "The Angells and Roger Williams: Thomas Angell of Providence, R.I., Was Not a Son of James Angell of London," in The American Genealogist, volume 66 (1991): pages 129-132. Available at AmericanAncestors.org.

Thomas, son of James Angell, was baptized on 22 Sept. 1635 and cannot possibly be the immigrant. The article also points out that William Angell had 5 brothers who are possible candidates to be the father or grandfather. Three of these brothers were excluded as possible ancestors of the immigrant Thomas Angell; however, two of the brothers (Randall and Thomas) needed further research.

PS: there was no one named James Henry Angell - no one had middle names in this time period.

posted by Joe Cochoit
Hi Joe, as I dig deeper into my DNA connections...I have found several matches with Elliott names or Elliott lineage. Kinda interesting 🤔
posted by Sean Angell
May I respectfully suggest that someone look through this profile and add a Research Notes section (between Biography and Sources) explaining as far as possible why there are so many variations in source material presented, and a justification for selecting one set of data as the likely truth. Then tidy up and remove data which is obviously referring to someone else, unless it is needed to illustrate the arguments presented. We look forward to being enlightened.
posted by David Barrington
Can someone explain how James Henry Angell born in London gets magicked into Henry James Angell born in Muchelney in far-off Dorset ?
posted by David Barrington
Angell-464 and Angell-34 appear to represent the same person because: Possible duplicate as per comment on profile. Same birth but different relationships.
this seems to be duplicate of Angell-34
posted by Greg Hays

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