Gwilym ap Jenkin (1300 - 1377)

Born 1300 in Wernddu, Monmouthshire, Wales

Ancestors

Husband of Gwenllian (ferch Hywel) ferch Hywel Fychan — married 1360 in Cefnyddwyglwyd, Monmouthshire, Wales

Descendants

Died 1377 at about age 77 in Perth Hir, Monmouthshire, Wales

Problems/Questions Profile managers: Liz Shifflett [send private message], Al Adams [send private message], and Wales Project WikiTree [send private message]

Gwilym ap Jenkin is managed by the Wales Project. Join: Wales Project Discuss: wales_project

Biography

1327 Birth and Parents

Gwilym "William" ap Jenkin was born in in Llanvapley Gwent in 1327. He was the son of Jenkin ap Thomas ap Adam and Gwenilian verch Howel.

Gwilym (William) was born in 1327 and died in 1377. He was of Wernddu, Monmouthshire, England, and of the tribe of Godwin.

Gwilym was the son of Jenkin ab Adam ap Cynhaethwy ap Herbert of Wernddu, who was born about 1270. Jenkin married first Lowri ferch Philip and secondly Gwenllian fech llywelyn. ^[1]

Marriage

Gwilym ap Jenkin ab Adam ap Cynhaethwy married Gwenllian ferch Hywel Fychan ap Hywel ab Iorwerth Fytchan ab Iorwerth ab Gwarin of llan-ffwyst ap Caradog ab Ynyr Fychan ap Meurig ab Ynyr Gwent. ^[1]

He married Gwenllian ferch Hywel "Fychan," the daughter of Hywel "Fychan" ap Howel ab Iorwerth of Cerf-Y-Ddwy-Gwlyd, of Monmouth, a direct descendant of the early Welsh kings of Monmouth and Glamorgan.

Lord of Cerf-Y-Ddwy-Gwlyd and Herbert Name

Upon the death of Gwenllian's father, William became Lord of Cerf-Y-Ddwy-Gwlyd, taking his father-in-law's coat of arms and the alias, Herbert. He is the progenitor of the Herbert family as well as the Raglan. Herbert (Hir-Bert in Welsh, meaning "very tall").^{[citation needed]}

"According to the Reverend William Coxe in his 1801 An Historical Tour of Monmouthshire the surname "Herbert", a corruption of the Welsh term "hir - bert" meaning "very tall", was first used by Jenkin, the grandfather of Thomas ap William, not as a surname but simply to distinguish him from other Jenkins. As a result of this usage several of his sons and grandsons, in the welsh style, incorporated it into their names but not as a surname. It was the grandsons of Thomas ap William (sons of Sir William ap Thomas) who, in the English style, first used "hir - bert" or "Herbert" as a surname. Other grandsons adopted other surnames, either from their father's names or from some place with which they were associated, i.e., Powell, Raglan, Hughes, Vaughan, Jones, Evans, Meredith, etc. All of the descendants of this extended family, regardless of surname, have been, however, considered branches of the Herbert Clan."^[2]

1345 Master Sergeant, Lordship of Abergavenny

Master Sergeant of the Lordship of Abergavenny in 1345. ^[1]

Managed his landed estates.

1385 Death

Gwilym died about 1377. ^[1]

He died about 1385 in Llanvapley. ^[3]

Issue

Gwilym and Gwenllian had eight children, all of Monmouthshire, Wales:^[4], although an unsourced profile said that he had 14 children, seven of whom were by Gwenllian.

• Jonet ferch Gwilym, b. Abt 1330, of, Y Fenni; m. Jenkin ap Gwrgi (alias Jenkin Grant) ^[1]
• Gwenllian [1st] (Lucy) ferch Gwilym, b. Abt 1330, of, Y Fenni; m. Owain "Gethin". ^[1]
• Gwenllian [2nd] ferch Gwilym, b. Abt 1330, of, Y Fenni; m. Meurig ap Hywel "Gam", lord of Penrhôs Fwrdios. ^[1]
• John ap Gwilym, b. Abt 1330, of, Y Wern-ddû, Llandeilo Bertholau, d. 1429 (Age ~ 99 years); m1. Mallt ferch Rhys; m2. Unknown ferch Dafydd. ^[1]
• Hywel ap Gwilym, b. Abt 1330, of, Cefn-y-ddwy-glwyd, Llanwytherin, Y Grysmwnt, d. Bef 1397 (Age ~ 67 years); m1. Anne Wallis; m2. Mallt ferch Ieuan; m3. Gwenllian ferch Hywel. ^[1]
• Dafydd ap Gwilym, b. Abt 1330, of, Capel Pengafenni, Y Fenni; m. Gwenllian ferch Philip. ^[1]
• Thomas ap Gwilym, b. Abt 1350, of, Perth-hir, Rockfield, Llangatwg Feibion Afel, d. 4 Jul 1438 (Age ~ 88 years); m1. Mawd Morley, lady of Raglan; m2. Unknown ferch Watkin. ^[1]
• Robert ap Gwilym, b. Abt 1330, of, Y Fenni. ^[1]

Research Notes

Omitted Generation

NOTE: Several sources omit this generation from the genealogy.

Mother

Note: Gwenillian verch Howel was removed as his mother. Source of profiles added by Dawn (thanks for sending it to me Dawn!) says that Gwenllian was the wife, not the mother, of William ap Jenkin:

"Gwenllian, wife of William ap Jenkin (1327 - 1377), was the daughter and sale [sic] heir of Howel - vychan ap Howel, lord of Cefn - y - ddwy - glwyd manor..."^[5]

Gwilym was born in 1327 and died in 1377. Gwenllian was the daughter and sole heir of Howel Vychan ap Howel ap Ioworth of Cerf-Y-Ddwy-Gwlyd, of Monmouth, a direct descendant of the early Welsh kings of Monmouth and Glamorgan. Upon the death of Gwenllian's father, Gwilym became Lord of Cerf-Y-Ddwy-Gwlyd, taking his father-in-law's coat of arms and the alias, Herbert. He is the progenitor of the Herbert family as well as the Raglan. Gwilym had 14 children, seven of which were by Gwenllian.

One of the early ancestors, Gwilym ap Jenkin (1327-1377) was the only child of "Jenkin the Apple Tree", a clerk to the Lord of Abergavenny at Llanvapley. Gwilym married the daughter and heir of Vychan ap Howel, a descendant of the early Welsh kings of Monmouth and Glamorgan. Upon Vychan's death, Gwilym inherited his title and property as Lord of Cerf-Y-Ddwy-Gwlyd, his coat of arms and his family name, Herbert (Hir-Bert in Welsh, meaning "very tall").

Jenkin's son, Gwilim ap Jenkin who followed his father as master sergeant is given six sons by the border genealogists, no less than six score pedigrees finding their origin in these six brothers. Their order is uncertain, although the Progers of Werndee, the last of whom sold his ancestral estate in 1780, are reckoned as the senior line of Gwilim's descendants. But Thomas ap Gwilim Jenkin, called the fourth son, is ancestor of all those who bore the surname Herbert.

William Ap Jenkin, alias Herbert, lord of Gwarindec, living at Perthir, near Monmouth from 20th to 50th of Edward III who m. Gwenllion, daughter of Howell Ichon, esq and had four sons viz. [Burke's commoners]

Gwilym ab Siencyn (misspelt William Ap Jenkin), otherwise Herbert, Lord of Gwen Ddu, living at the very ancient residence of Perth Hir, near Monmouth, from 20th to 50th of Edward III, m Gwenllian, dau. of Hywel Vychan (misspelt Howell Vaughan), and had four sons. [Annals and Antiquities of Wales II:776]

Gwilym ap Jenkin; Master Sgt of Abergavenny 1340; married Gwenllian, daughter of Hywel Fychan ap Hywel and died c1377, leaving [Thomas], with numerous other issue. [Burke's Peerage]

Profile Notes

OLN: Edits by Wales Project on 11 March 2024 removed "Other Last Name(s)" of Herbert, ap Siankyn.

Warning to "Check the Data" (11 March 2024):

• A father's death date (Ap Jenkin-6 died 1377]]) should not be more than nine months before one of his children's birth dates (Ilyne-1 - now Ferch Gwilym-12 born 1380]]).
• A child's birth date (Ap Jenkin-6 born 1300) should not be before a parent is six years old (mother Ferch Aaron-1 born 1308) .
• A child's birth and death date (Ap Jenkin-6 born 1300 died 1377) should not be before a parent was 13 years old (father Ab Adam-22 born 1290).

WikiTree Suggestions (11 March 2024):

• WikiData Hint: Possible Mother on WikiData → Wikidata: Item Q75875762
• Error? Mother too young or not born
• Warning: Unique name in Other Last Names → Siankyn
• Warning: WikiData: Possible duplicate by father →
  • Wikidata: Item Q116053033
  • Wikidata: Item Q99084159
• WikiData Hint: Possible Father on WikiData → Wikidata: Item Q110347242
• Error? Domain name in link not resolved → http(s)://histfam.familysearch.org
• Error? Father was dead before birth

See also: Deletion

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11} Carl Boyer, 3rd. Medieval Welsh Ancestors of Certain Americans. By the author, Santa Clarita, California, 2004. Gwilym ap Jenkin ab Adam ap Cynhaethwy is #6 on page 167.
2. ↑ Ragland, p 57, #Vol II
3. ↑ WikiTree profile for Ap_Jenkin-10 entered by Dawn Griffis, Friday, February 21, 2014. Replace this citation if there is another source.
4. ↑ FamilySearch Welsh database
5. ↑ Ragland, p 58, #Vol II

• Vol I: Charles James Ragland, Jr., The Raglands: History of A British-American Family (published by the author in 1978)
• Vol II: Charles James Ragland, Jr., The Raglands: The History of a British-American Family (published by the author in 1987)

A Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages of t he British Empire" by Sir Bernard Burke, published 1883

J Williams: Llyfr Baglan P. 80

G T Clark: The Genealogies of Glamorgan PP 237, 252, 562

V M Norr: Some Early English Pedigrees p. 124

Herbert, George biography, 88.1911 encyclopedia.org/HERBERT_GEORGE.htm: