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Mary (Ayers) Fish (1625 - 1699)

Mary Fish formerly Ayers aka Soule
Born in London, Middlesex, Englandmap [uncertain]
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married 1645 in Portsmouth, Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantationsmap
Descendants descendants
Died at age 74 in Portsmouth, Newport, Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantationsmap
Profile last modified | Created 19 Feb 2013
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Contents

Biography

Cross of St George
Mary (Ayers) Fish was born in England.

Parents?

There are no "quality sources" for last name at birth. She should be an unknown, not Ayres, Soule or Sherman. See following discussion.

Mary, the wife of Thomas Fish, may have been an Ayres, daughter of a Portsmouth couple who deeded Thomas Fish property in return for maintaining them in their old age. However, it is possible that they were simply a childless couple needing care.

Or a Soule:

Husband: George Soule
Wife: Mary Becket
Child: Mary Ayres/ Soule
Date: 29 Mar 1635 Duxbury, Plymouth, Massachusetts

She is probably not a Sherman - there is no credible evidence found to date that she is a Sherman.[1]

Torrey's New England Marriages to 1700 Vol. 1:545 gives her marriage as 1648 probably in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island, but her surname as possibly Sherman: FISH, Thomas1 (1619-1687) & Mary [?SHERMAN] (-1699); by 1648; Portsmouth, RI {McIntire Anc. 42, 54; Austin's Dict. 78; Austin Gen. 256; Guild Anc. 22; Shotwell 218; Reg. 87:364; Brownell Anc. 105}

Parents? Samuel Sherman 1601 – 1644 & Esther Burges 1612 – 1646 Half sister of Phillip Sherman; Martha Sherman; Nathaniel Sherman; Jonathan Sherman and Samuel Sherman

Birth

Place of birth changed to London based on Hinderliter/Pattison Family History Web Site (MyH) details.

Alternate births - 1615 in Portsmouth, Newport Co., Rhode Island, May 1624 Duxbury, Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States

Marriage

Married 1645 at Portsmouth,Newport,Rhode Island, Thomas Fish- b. 1 January 1619 at England; d. 1 December 1687

Their children:[2]

1. Thomas b. abt. 1646 at Portsmouth, Newport, RI; m. 10 December 1668 Grizzel Strange; d. 1684, aged 38 years.

2. Mary b. abt. 1650 at Portsmouth, Newport, RI; m. 18 March 1672 Francis Brayton; d. 4 April 1747, aged 97 years.

3. Alice b. abt 1652 at Portsmouth, Newport, RI; m. William Knowles; d. 1734 at Portsmouth, Newport, RI, aged 82 years.

4. John b. abt 1653 at Portsmouth, Newport, RI; m. Johanna Fish Nee Unknown; d. 20 April 1742 at Dartmouth, Bristol, RI, aged 89 years

5. Daniel b. abt 1655 at Portsmouth, Newport, RI; m. 1 May 1682 Abigail Mumford; d. 16 September 1723, aged 68 years.

6. Mehitable b. abt 1656 at Portsmouth, Newport, RI; m. 6 August 1667 Joseph Tripp; d. aft 1719 at Dartmouth, Bristol, MA, aged 63 years

7. Robert b. abt 1657 at Portsmouth, Newport, RI

Death

Age: 74-75
12 Jul 1699 at Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island, United States
Alt. Death Date: 1720

Wills

Mary Fish, widow of Portsmouth, died testate, having written a will dated 9 September 1697, with a codicil dated 12 July 1699. The will was proved on 9 August 1699. The will mentions sons John Fish, Robert Fish, Thomas fish deceased and Daniel fish; daughters Mehitable Tripp, Mary Brayton and Alice Knowles; grandson Preserved Fish, son of son Thomas deceased; grandson Thomas Fish, son of Daniel fish and granddaughters Comfort fish and Ruth Fish, daughters of son Daniel Fish; granddaughter Mary Fish under age 16, daughter of son John Fish; grandson Robert Fish, son of son Robert Fish ("Portsmouth Town Council and Probate, Volume 2, 1697-1725," pages 170-171, abstracted by Nellie M.C. Beaman, "Abstracts of Portsmouth, R.I. Wills," in Rhode Island Genealogical Register, Volume 5, Number 1, July 1982).

From Profile on Geni.com:

Thomas's will was recorded on the 9th of February 1687, and proved on the 13th of December 1687. It named his wife, Mary as executrix and mentions four sons, three daughters and seven grandchildren. It bequeathed "to son John land bought of James Babcock. To son Robert 20s, and like amount to daughters Mehitable, Mary and Alice. To grandson, Preserved, son of Thomas, Jr., 5s, to wife remainder of the estate. Inventory, 49 pounds, 10s."

Sources

  1. From Randy Seaver April 2014
  2. (Additional details from Geni.com for Mary Sherman Fish, curated by Angus Wood-Salomon.) --Bob S.
  • Thomas Fish : Rhode Island Historical Society, The Early Records of the Town of Portsmouth Providence, R.I.: E.L. Freeman, Providence RI, 1901) Note: also on FHL US/CAN Microfilm 0,945,382, Item 3.
  • RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project:They Came To Milton ID:I4162
  • Historic Homes and Places and Genealogical and Personal Memoirs Relating to the Families of Middlesex County, Massachusetts Author: William Richard Cutter Publication: Name: Lewis Historical Publishing Company; Location: New York, New York; Date: 1908; Repository: Name: Kim Myers
  • WikiTree Publication: MyHeritage Text: www.wikitree.com Media: 10109 Type: Collection Page: http://www.myheritage.com/research/collection-10109/wikitree?s=241067491&itemId=39582967&action=showRecord Event: Record Role: 10109:39582967: Text:

    Mary Ayres/ Soule
    Gender: Female
    Birth: May 1624 - Duxbury, Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
    Marriage: Circa 1647 - Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island
    Death: July 12 1699 -Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island, United States
    Husband: Thomas Fish
    Child: Robert Fish

  • WikiTree Publication: MyHeritage Text: www.wikitree.com Media: 10109 Type: Collection Page: http://www.myheritage.com/research/collection-10109/wikitree?s=241067491&itemId=18100503&action=showRecord&indId=individual-241067491-1500082 Event: Record Role: 10109:18100503: Data: Text:

    Mary Sherman
    Gender: Female
    Birth: 1625 - Portsmouth, RI
    Marriage: 1645 - Portsmouth, RI
    Death: 1673 - Portsmouth, RI
    Husband: Thomas Fish
    Child: John Fish

    Quality or Certainty of Data: 4
  • Geni World Family Tree Publication: MyHeritage Text: The Geni World Family Tree is found on www.Geni.com. Geni is owned and operated by MyHeritage. Media: 40000 Type: Collection Page: http://www.myheritage.com/research/collection-40000/geni-world-family-tree?s=241067491&itemId=69945404&action=showRecord Event: Record Role: 40000:69945404: Data: Text:

    Mary Fish (born Ayres)
    Gender: Female
    Birth: Circa 1618 - Probably England, (Present UK)
    Death: 1651 - Portsmouth, Newport Colony, (Present Rhode Island), (Present USA)
    Father: Henry Ayres
    Mother: Ann Ayres
    Husband: Thomas Fish
    Children: Mehitable Fish, Robert Fish

    Quality or Certainty of Data: 4

Acknowledgments

  • WikiTree profile Soule-462 created through the import of Ancestry Audrey Harrington.ged on Nov 14, 2012 by Kim Myers.
  • Thank you to Robert Scrivens for creating WikiTree profile Sherman-2039 through the import of 2293fi_608439562v2o181f2jw4c6.ged on Apr 19, 2013.
  • WikiTree profile Sherman-1159 created through the import of Welder Family Tree.ged on Sep 10, 2011 by Deborah Anne Welder.
  • WikiTree profile Sherman-1026 created through the import of Bierbrodt.GED on Jul 14, 2011 by Becky Bierbrodt.
  • Thanks to Dale Burdick for starting this profile. Click the Changes tab for the details of contributions by Dale and others.
  • This person was created through the import of greenwald-millerGEDCOM.ged on 27 September 2010.
  • Fish-2102 was created by Dick Fish through the import of Fish Family Tree_book_EN.ged on Jun 27, 2014.
  • Fish-2096 was created by Dick Fish through the import of Fish Family Tree_book_EN.ged on Jun 27, 2014.




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Fish-2096 and Ayers-603 appear to represent the same person because: same name, husband, son
I found the following somewhere (probably comments on someone's tree on Rootsweb). I'm comfortable counting Mary as a 9th great grandmother and for now counting Henry and Ann as her parents. I would make any changes to WikiTree so long as the doubt is clearly established

Dr. Kenneth Parker's notes indicate Thomas Fish's wife was Mary AYERS (no source documentation given; Dr. Parker has passed away). See the following note.

"I believe that this lady was Mary Ayers whose father was Henry Ayres. She was born 1615?? and died 1699 in Portsmouth, RI. Mary Ayres married Thomas Fish in 1647 in Portsmouth. He was the son of Robert Fish and Alice Fish. I got this from RootsWeb.com by a David E. Crandall, Jr. [email address removed] . A note on this RootsWeb.com site says: A notation in an issue of "Second Boat" lists her maiden name as Ayres, daughter of Henry. Submission was by Mary P. Lavery, 7 Paris Ave., Corinth, NY 12822. TORREY lists her name as [?Sherman]. The FISH genealogy very tentatively assigns her maiden name as SOULE. (RIGENWEB mailing list posting from Arlene Clarke Haddock).

"Meetinge March 20 1660, Thomas Fish received a deed of house and land from Henry and Ann Ayres, in consideration of fencing two acres said Henry and Ann to enjoy said land for their lives without paying rent."

posted by John Sigler
No, there are no "quality sources" for last name at birth. She should be an unknown, not Ayres, Soule or Sherman. See the Notes and the discussion items for how we got here.
posted by Randy Seaver
Based on what is written in this bio, it seems that Mary's last name at birth should be Unknown, and her possible last names be documented in a Uncertain Origins section.

Does anyone have any quality sources showing her LNAB?

Thank you.

posted by S (Hill) Willson
Removed Mary as wife of Thomas Fish (Fish-34). She could not have married Thomas in 1688 as shown - he was dead by 1684.
posted by Dave Rutherford
Fish-2102 and Ayers-1704 appear to represent the same person because: same spouse, apparent duplicate
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Torrey's New England Marriages to 1700 Vol. 1:545 gives her marriage as 1648 probably in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island, but her surname as Sherman:

FISH, Thomas1 (1619-1687) & Mary [?SHERMAN] (-1699); by 1648; Portsmouth, RI {McIntire Anc. 42, 54; Austin's Dict. 78; Austin Gen. 256; Guild Anc. 22; Shotwell 218; Reg. 87:364; Brownell Anc. 105}

posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Unknown-241253 and Fish-2096 do not represent the same person because: Information does not match
posted on Fish-2096 (merged) by Kim Myers
Unknown-241253 and Fish-2096 appear to represent the same person because: These appear to be the same person from a merge of a child. Insisting to clean up.
posted on Fish-2096 (merged) by Jonathon Myers
I changed Mary's maiden name to "Unknown" because we don't know what it is. Nobody does, except for some online family tree owners who copied it from some other family tree owner who had no clue.

I deleted Mary's relationship to the Sherman parents too. I eliminated all of her possible names except we know she died as Mary Fish.

Portsmouth RI did not exist in 1625 so I changed her birthplace to "probably England."

The Notes need to be combined noting all of the potential maiden names and leaving only the information we actually have from records.

posted by Randy Seaver
Sherman-1026 and Sherman-26 appear to represent the same person because: spouse and marriage date are the same
According to the bio Henry Sherman is the great grandfather of Mary but Bartholamew is attached as the freat grandfather. Do you know which is correct?
Sherman-26 and Sherman-581 appear to represent the same person because: Please merge these two duplicate profiles and explore any discrepancies in the Biography.

Thanks!

posted by Michael Lewis
Sherman-2039 and Sherman-581 appear to represent the same person because: These two profiles are obviously the same person. Please merge these profiles and explore any discrepancies in the Biography.

Thanks!

posted by Michael Lewis