John Bain (1867 - 1935)

Born 29 Sep 1867 in Forres, Morayshire, Scotland, United Kingdom

Ancestors

Husband of Elizabeth (Cook) Bain — married 19 Nov 1907 in Preston, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom

Died 17 Jun 1935 at age 67 in Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales, United Kingdom

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Biography

John Bain, son of John Bain and Helen / Ellen Alves, was born on 29 Sep 1867 in Forres, Morayshire, Scotland, United Kingdom.^[1] His mother's maiden name is listed as Alves in the Scotland register.^[2]

In the 1871 census John (age 3) was the son of John Bain in Forres, Moray, Scotland.^[3]

In the 1881 census John (age 13) was the son of John Bain in Inverness, Inverness-shire, Scotland, United Kingdom. He was a Scholar.^[4]

He started his architect apprenticing in 1883, to William Lawrie of Matthews & Lawrie in Inverness. He was studying at the Government School of Design in Inverness during this time. His apprenticeship ended in 1888 and he moved to Blanc & Gordon firm in Edinburgh and worked for a year with them. He then came back to Inverness and worked for Ross & Macbeth in 1889. By 1892 he'd moved to London, and passed his exam in March 1892. He was admitted to A.R.I.B.A. on 13 Jun 1892.

He and Alfred Swash (born in 1860) won a design competition for the Durham Road Schools in Newport, Monmouthshire in 1893. They then went into a partnership and practiced out of Midland Bank Chambers, Newport, Monmouthshire until 1905, when their partnership was ended. They both continued practicing on their own, John, from his home and Alfred maintained the Midland Bank Chambers address. sources: Scottisharchitects.org.uk web site [1] and [2]

John was involved in 11 major projects in Newport over his career. They are detailed here: [3] His contribution to the designs of Newbrige School in 1930 and Bassaleg in 1935 were mentioned in this report: [4]

He and Elizabeth Cook were married at Preston, Lancashire on 19 November, 1907 [5]. Elizabeth indicates her father's name is James Cook. Witnesses were G. H. fisher and S. S. Burrell.

In the 1911 England Census John (age 43) was a visitor and staying in a hotel in Bristol, Gloucestershire. He was an architect, and married. Born in Forres, Morayshire, Scotland. ^[5]

John died on 7 Jun 1935, in Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales, United Kingdom. The probate for his estate was confirmed on 14 Sep 1935 in London. ^[6] Record reads: Bain John of 28 Clyffard-crescent Newport Monmouthsire died 17 June 1935 Administration London 14 September to Elizabeth Bain widow and Alexander Alves Bain architect. Effects 6870GBP 17s. 11d. His son Alexander Alves Bain was born in 1909 - 1977.

He was possibly buried in Cluny Hill Cemetery, Forres, Moray, Scotland, ^[7] although no gravestone is shown. There is an inscription of the stone on the page.

There was an obituary published for him in the RIBA Journal of 12 October 1935. RIBA is the London Royal Institute of British Architects, of which he was a member from 1900 as a Associate. [6]

Research Notes

Scotlands People Birth / Baptism registers show all of John's siblings. They do not show anything for a John that may have been born in 1852 and died early.

There are records of other John Bain that went to United States, but this John Bain did not emigrate there. Sources being removed, now that the merge has been completed.

Sources

1. ↑ "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, (FamilySearch Record: FQRK-97Z : accessed 16 December 2022), John Bain born on 29 Sep 1867, son of John Bain & Helen Alves, in Forres, Morayshire, Scotland, United Kingdom.
2. ↑ "Statutory Register of Births," database, National Records of Scotland, (ScotlandsPeople : accessed 16 December 2022), John Bain birth registered 1867 in Forres; citing Ref 137/128.
3. ↑ "Scotland Census, 1871," database, (FamilySearch Record: VBLP-ZBB : accessed 16 December 2022), John Bain (3) son in household of John Bain (43) in Forres, Moray, Scotland. Born in Elginshire; citing p. 8, PRO T 1, The National Archives UK, Kew, Surrey; FHL microfilm 104,064.

   John Bain Head M 43 Master Shoe Maker Employing 2 Men 2 Boys Elginshire

   Helen Bain Wife F 43 Shoe Makers Wife Elginshire

   William B Bain Son M 16 Shoe Maker Elginshire

   Jane Bain Daughter F 14 Scholar Elginshire

   Helen Bain Daughter F 9 Scholar Elginshire

   Alexander Bain Son M 6 Scholar Elginshire

   John Bain Son M 3 Elginshire

4. ↑ "Scotland Census, 1881," database, (FamilySearch Record: KM6X-YVH : accessed 16 December 2022), John Bain (13) son, Scholar, in household of John Bain (53) in Inverness, Inverness-shire, Scotland, United Kingdom. Born in Morayshire.

   John Bain Head Married M 53 Master Bootmaker Emp 5 Men Morayshire

   Ellen A Bain Wife Married F 53 Morayshire

   Ellen Bain Daughter Unmarried F 19 General Serv Domestic Morayshire

   Alexander Bain Son M 16 Solicitors Clerk Apprentice Morayshire

   John Bain Son M 13 Scholar Morayshire

5. ↑ "The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; Census Returns of England and Wales, 1911" @ [Ancestry.com]
6. ↑ "Scotland, National Probate Index (Calendar of Confirmations and Inventories), 1876-1936," @ [Ancestry.com]
7. ↑ Find a Grave, database and images ( Find A Grave: Memorial #182947455 john-bain: accessed 02 January 2023), memorial page for John Bain (unknown–17 Jun 1935), Find A Grave: Memorial #182947455, citing Cluny Hill Cemetery, Forres , Moray, Scotland; Maintained by David Bryant (contributor 47510263).

See Also:

• FamilySearch Person: LVFZ-SDH

Acknowledgements

• This person was created through the import of Barron Family 1st Feb 2011.GED on 02 February 2011
• Profile created by Sandy Andrew through the import of Andrew_Scott_Oct_2017.ged on Oct 10, 2017