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Agnes Bainard

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Agnes Bainard aka Pagnel
Born about in Skelton, Yorkshire, England
Daughter of [uncertain] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Died [location unknown]
Last profile change on 5 May 2015
04:26: Bree Ogle edited a message from Bree Ogle on the page for Agnes Bainard. [Thank Bree for this]
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Categories: Disputed Existence.

Non-existent person? Research suggests that this person may never have existed.
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Rejected Origins

"Farrer's own initial suggestion was that Agnes was daughter of Geoffrey Bainard, a sheriff of Yorkshire who briefly held the manor of Burton [Agnes] in the time of Rufus. Although King supports this theory, Farrer himself ultimately rejected it, with good reason. Like Carlton, Burton [Agnes] was part of the initial Brus fief, and two of its berewicks were added in the exchange of 1103 as a direct grant from the king. In 1086 the manor had been held by the king and let out to farm, so despite Geoffrey Bainard granting the church and some land there to St Mary's, York, he may only have held it temporarily or by virtue of his office. Furthermore, Agnes is not named at all in her husband's own grant of the church of Burton [Agnes] to York, making it unlikely that she was Geoffrey's heir. Finally, the appellation 'Agnes' was not used until the mid-thirteenth century and may well have come from Agnes d'Aumale, wife of Adam de Brus I."[1]

Marriage

Robert had two sons by Agnes, daughter of Geoffrey Bainard, sheriff of York. His older son Adam also allegedly fought against David at the Battle of the Standard, but his younger son Robert chose to remain in David's allegiance, fighting against his own father. It was the younger Robert who was given possession of Annandale. Adam and his descendents continued to hold lands in England as Lord of Skelton. Robert the elder died in 1142.[citation needed]

Sources

Blakely, R.M. (2000). The Brus Family in England and Scotland 1100 - c.1290, (pp.26-27). Durham Theses. Durham University. PDF.


  1. Blakely, 2000


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On May 5, 2015 at 08:18GMT Bree Ogle wrote:

Since Agnes is Uknown, Farrer rejected his own Bainard theory, and the idea that she may be a Pagnel is speculation ... profile managers are free to merge Agnes into a single profile with the last name UNKNOWN, and disconnect her from the 2 sets of parents that break the line.

And given that she was dubbed Agnes in the 13th century, some may even consider a more strict interpretation and call her UNKNOWN UKNOWN.

See her husband's profile, and the duplicate for more...



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