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John Baker (bef. 1634 - 1718)

John Baker
Born before in Norwich, Norfolk, Englandmap
Husband of — married 13 May 1667 in Ipswich, Essex, Massachusetts Bay Colonymap
[children unknown]
Died after age 83 in Ipswich, Essex, Massachusetts Baymap
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Biography

John Baker immigrated to New England as a child during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640).

John Baker was born in England, a son of John Baker and was christened on November 30, 1634 at St Peter Mancroft Norwich.[1][2]

John passed away in 1718.[3].

Emigration

1637 on the "Rose" of Yarmouth and settled in Watertown and Newbury, MA.

John emigrated from Great Yarmouth, England via Holland, to New England with his wife, Elizabeth and three children; child Elizabeth, child Thomas, and child John. John and Elizabeth Baker took an oath of allegiance in Great Yarmouth:[4]

JOHN, bapt. 1634 Nov. 30; m. 1667 May 13 Katharine, dau. of Rev. Wm. Perkins; d. 1718[5]


Sources

  1. Norfolk Record Office; Norwich, Norfolk, England; Reference: PD 26/1. Image 50 St Peter Mancroft Parish register by subscription at: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/61045/4143514_00276?pid=2583361 accessed 6 Feb 2020.
  2. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J32H-N4R : 11 February 2018, John Baker, 30 Nov 1634); citing , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 993,676, 993,675.
  3. The Family of Zaccheus Gould of Topsfield; page 37; Benjamin Apthorp Gould
  4. Ancestry.com. Norfolk, England, Extracted Parish Records [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2001. Collection: Norfolk (England general): Yarmouth - Registers of Passengers (Great Yarmouth to Holland and New England), 1637-1639
  5. The Family of Zaccheus Gould of Topsfield p.37

See also:

  • Benjamin Apthorp Gould, The Family of Zaccheus Gould of Topsfield (Thos. P. Nichols, Lynn, MA, 1895) p.36
  • English emigrants to New England; by Charles Edward Banks, edited, indexed and published by Elijah Ellsworth Brownell; (1363 - 1944)
  • [Topographical Dictionary of 2885 English emigrants to New England, 1620-1650 https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE3653401]
  • Hotten, John Camden, The Original Lists Of Persons Of Quality (John Camden Hotten, 1874) Page 289
  • "Massachusetts, Town Clerk, Vital and Town Records, 1626-2001," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q29G-G7SV : 18 February 2020), John Baker and Kathrein Perkins, 13 May 1667; citing Marriage, Ipswich, Essex, Massachusetts, United States, Massachusetts Secretary of the Commonwealth, Boston; FHL microfilm 007009706.




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This person immigrated to New England between 1621-1640 as a Minor Child (under age 21 at time of immigration) of a Puritan Great Migration immigrant who is profiled in Robert Charles Anderson's Great Migration Directory (or is otherwise accepted by the Puritan Great Migration (PGM) Project).

Please feel free to improve the profile(s) by providing additional information and reliable sources. PGM encourages the Profile Managers to monitor these profiles for changes; if any problems arise, please contact the PGM Project via G2G for assistance. Please note that PGM continues to manage the parent's profile, but is happy to assist on the children when needed.

posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
I wonder about the items mentioned under the "Emigration" heading.

1637 on the "Rose" refers to the emigration to America from England via Holland? And this was with his wife, Elizabeth and three children ?

I kust added three sources for John's marriage and they all say the wife was Susannah Martin, married in America in 1654. The one from Family Search includes sources which is not usual for them.

Thank you for considering.

posted by Fletcher Trice
At a quick glance, I think you're refering to a different John Baker who married Susannah Martin.

[Edited to add:] The Great Migration Directory lists 5 John Bakers arriving by 1640, so it's a very common name.

posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
edited by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
I see that this is a PGM project-managed profile and I agree with you that "This profile has not been fully developed..."

The five John Bakers do make things confusing.

For appropriate consideration, there are a number of sources referenced at https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/58190792/person/34487550794/facts. In fact, five marriages and many children of a John Baker born on 30 Nov 1634 are referenced. One of the five wives is Susannah Martin who you previously clarified was married to a different John Baker.

Additional item in the Ancestery.com tree: Purportedly John Baker (1634–1695) and Joanna Joan Swift (1640–1663) had a child Thomas Baker (1671-1727). If Joanna died in 1663, it is clear that she didn't give birth to Thomas about eight years after her death. But then who was Thomas' mother and from which John Baker was he born?

Perhaps the sources indicated will help in clarifying the five John Bakers and in more fully developing the profile.

posted by Russell Butler
edited by Russell Butler
That would probably be this John Baker and his wife Joan Swift, who lived in Suffolk County, Mass. Bay Colony. The Suffolk County John Baker has a son Thomas attached who may be the one you mention. I hesitate to "compare" Ancestry trees with those here when the names are so common. The "sources" on that Ancestry tree are just ... all over the place. You'd probably be better off working from your known subject's records and work back. What do you know about your Thomas Baker? (It would make a good G2G post!)
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Thanks. Thomas Baker (abt.1710-abt.1772) is the known Thomas, but his parents are uncertain.

Also, John Annable (abt.1649-1716) had a daughter, Mary (Annable) Baker (1684-1762) who may have been the mother of Thomas Baker (abt.1710-abt.1772) and who married another Thomas Baker.

I believe the Ancestry Tree is conflated.

posted by Russell Butler
edited by Russell Butler
US & International Marriages is not considered a valid source for PGM profiles: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Puritan_Great_Migration_Project_Reliable_Sources
posted by S (Hill) Willson
The Elizabeth & John mentioned in the information about the Rose were the parents of this man. This profile has not been fully developed, but his wife was apparently Katherine.
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall

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