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Robert Barclay Esq. (1648 - 1690)

Gov. Robert Barclay Esq.
Born in Gordonstown, Morayshire, Scotlandmap
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Husband of — married 16 Feb 1670 in Scotlandmap
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Died at age 41 in Urie, Kincardineshire, Scotlandmap
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Robert Barclay, Esq., son and heir of [Col.] David Barclay of Urie, Kincardineshire and Katherine Gordon, was born at Gordonstown, Moray, Scotland on 23 December 1648, the eldest of five children.[1][2] He was baptized at Drainie, Morayshire on 3 January 1649.[1] His father, a professional soldier, had served under Gustavus Adolphus as a major in the Thirty Years' War and served in the civil wars as a colonel of a horse regiment under General John Middleton.[2] His mother was Katherine Gordon, the daughter of Sir Robert Gordon, 1st Baronet of Gordonstown,[1] and third cousin of Charles I.[2]

Education and Religion

Robert's earliest education was from "the strictest Sort of Calvinists" and, by age ten, he was in Paris under the care of his uncle, Robert Barclay, rector of the Scots Theological College, where he converted to Catholicism. In 1663, Robert returned home to Scotland and renounced Catholicism at the urging of his parents.[2]
Robert's father, David, was jailed from 1665-1669. In his first year in jail, he made the acquaintance of Quaker John Swinton and, by March 1666, David converted to Quakerism.[2] Robert's visits to his father ended with his own conversion to Quakerism in the winter of 1666/7[2][3][4] and, in May 1667, Robert took a trip to north Scotland with John Swinton and George Keith to seek converts to their religion.[2]
After this trip, Robert's father sent him to their estate at Ury (aka Urie) and Robert held weekly Quaker meetings there. David had acquired the estate (which was in ruins) in 1648, losing it after the conquest, and had regained it by 1656. When David was released from prison in 1669, he built a new manor house and a Quaker meeting house on the property.[2]

Marriage and Children

Robert married on 16 February 1669/70 to Christian Mollison,[1][5] daughter of Gilbert Mollison, merchant of Aberdeen[1] and Margaret Smith, an early Quaker convert.[2] An attempt was made to summon Robert before the Privy Council for marrying unlawfully, but this came to nothing.[6]
Robert and Christian had three sons and four daughters who survived Robert,[2][7] including:
  • Robert, born on 25 January 1672,[8] died on 27 March 1747,[9] married Elizabeth Brain[2] and had eight children.[10] Robert succeeded his father at Ury.[2]
  • David, who became a wealthy London merchant.[11] born 17 September 1682, died 18 May 1769, married first to Anne Taylor, second to Priscilla Freame and had children.[10]
  • John, migrated to Dublin.[10]
  • Katherine, born 26 June 1678, died 9 November 1758, married James Forbes.[10]
  • Patience, born 25 November 1675/6, died 22 June 1757, married Timothy Forbes.[10]
  • Christian, born 15 May 1680, died 1751, married Alexander Jaffray.[10]
  • Jean/Jane, born 27 December 1683, married Alexander Forbes.[10]
Children born to Robert and Christian who died young:
  • David, born 8 September 1670 , died 1671[10]
  • Margaret, born 4 October 1673, died 1685[10]
  • Infant Barclay, 1676 stillborn[citation needed]

1670s

In 1672 Robert walked along three of the chief streets in Aberdeen in sackcloth and ashes, calling people to repentance, while Friends walking with him carried his hat and cloak.[6] On another occasion, he was waylaid by a highwayman. It is said that he looked calmly down the barrel of his attacker's pistol and asked him what made him become so "rude": the highwayman dropped his pistol, trembling, and gave up his attempt at robbery.[12]
Although Robert led only a few hundred Quakers in Scotland, he had a great impact on the international Quaker movement and was influential in ending their persecution by 1679. In 1673, Robert published Catechism and Confession of Faith and in 1674 Theses Theologicae was published.[2] His most important work, An Apology for True Christian Divinity,[1] was published in Latin in 1676 and in English in 1678.[2]
In April 1676 he delivered a memorandum on behalf of persecuted Quakers to Charles II.[13]
Robert was briefly imprisoned in 1672[/3][1] and again from November 1676 to April 1677, along with forty other Quakers.[2][14] During his second imprisonment, Robert wrote the treatise Universal Love, published in 1677, and a letter that would later be published in Truth Triumphant, a full collection of his works published after his death in 1692.[2]
In July 1677 Robert was one of a group of leading Quakers who went to visit Friends in Holland and to undertake missionary activity in Holland and Germany. Others in the group included George Fox and William Penn.[15][16] With William Penn he visited and befriended Princess Elizabeth of the Palatinate, a granddaughter of James I.[17]
On 4 November 1679, Robert Barclay and others were taken into custody while meeting for worship in Aberdeen, but released after a few hours.[18]

Influence in the Colonies

After Robert was released from prison in 1677, he advocated strongly for the release of the remaining imprisoned Quakers and for the establishment of a new Quaker colony. Robert had three meetings with the Duke of York (later James II) which resulted in the release of the remaining Aberdeen Quaker prisoners in November 1679.[2]
Robert published nothing after 1679 and started focusing more on family and his financial affairs. However, he remained heavily involved with the Quaker community and continued preaching, but his primary focus turned to promoting Quaker colonies in America. Robert felt that land prices were too high in Pennsylvania and he and his Scottish investors decided to invest in East and West New Jersey.[2] In 1682, the proprietors of East New Jersey appointed Robert Barclay governor for life.[1][2]
Robert never traveled to the colony,[2] acting through a deputy,[19] but he remained its advocate and promoter until his death. His brothers, John and David emigrated, but David died on the voyage.[2]

Later Life and Death

Robert's father died in 1686 and Robert became Laird of Ury. Robert made a final trip to London in 1688 to present to the court his son, Robert. He retired afterward to Ury.[2] While he was in London, false rumours were circulated that he was really a Jesuit.[20] In James II's last days as king, Robert had a final interview with him, in which James emphasised his belief in "freedom of conscience" (that is, religious toleration).[20]
Robert Barclay died at Urie, Kincardineshire on 3 October 1690[1] as a result of a fever[21] and was buried on the estate, beside his father.[2] Robert's widow, Christian, died 14 December 1722.[1]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 1.8 1.9 Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2011, vol. I, page 101, BARCLAY 18.i
  2. 2.00 2.01 2.02 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 2.08 2.09 2.10 2.11 2.12 2.13 2.14 2.15 2.16 2.17 2.18 2.19 2.20 2.21 2.22 DesBrisay, Gordon. "Barclay, Robert, of Ury (1648–1690), religious writer and colonial governor" in Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. September 23, 2004. Oxford University Press. Date of access 26 Feb 2020, at ODNB with subscription.
  3. William C Braithwaite. The Second Period of Quakerism, 2nd edition, Cambridge University Press, 1955, subsequently distributed by William Sessions, p. 334
  4. Joseph Besse. Sufferings of Early Quakers, 1753, Vol. II, p. 498
  5. Scotland Non-Old Parish Registers Vital Records 1647-1875, FindMyPast
  6. 6.0 6.1 William C Braithwaite, The Second Period of Quakerism, p. 339
  7. Note: no children are named by Richardson in Magna Carta Ancestry or Royal Ancestry.
  8. Scotland Non-Old Parish Registers Vital Records 1647-1875, FindMyPast
  9. The Scots Magazine, 1747, Scotland, Newspaper Death Reports & Obituaries, Find My Past and accompanying image. Note that the transcript wrongly gives the death date as 6 March 1747: the image gives the correct date.
  10. 10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 10.4 10.5 10.6 10.7 10.8 Moffat, Reuben Burnham. The Barclays of New York: Who They Are and Who They Are Not. (R.G. Cooke, 1904). Online at Archive.org, pages 222-223.
  11. Dickson, P.G.M. "Barclay, David (1682–1769), merchant" in Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. September 23, 2004. Oxford University Press. Date of access 27 Feb 2020, at ODNB with subscription.
  12. William C Braithwaite, The Second Period of Quakerism, p. 446
  13. Joseph Besse, Sufferings of Early Quakers, Vol. II, p. 510
  14. Joseph Besse, Sufferings of Early Quakers, Vol. II, pp. 517 and 519
  15. Penney, Norman (ed.). The Journal of George Fox, J M Dent & Sons, London and E P Dutton & Co., New York, 1924, pp. 336-341
  16. H Larry Ingle. First among Friends. George Fox & the Creation of Quakerism, Oxford University Press, 1994, pp. 267-270
  17. Isabel Ross. Margaret Fell, Mother of Quakerism, 3rd edition, William Sessions, 1996, pp. 305-307
  18. Joseph Besse, Sufferings of Early Quakers, Vol. II, p. 533
  19. William C Braithwaite, The Second Period of Quakerism, p. 403
  20. 20.0 20.1 William C Braithwaite, The Second Period of Quakerism, p. 149
  21. William C Braithwaite, The Second period of Quakerism, p. 445
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Magna Carta Project

This profile was reviewed and approved for the Magna Carta Project by Thiessen-117 on 27 February 2020.
Robert Barclay Esq. is listed in Magna Carta Ancestry as a Gateway Ancestor (vol. I, page xxiii) and is in a Richardson-documented trail to Magna Carta Surety Barons Richard de Clare and Gilbert de Clare (vol. I, pages 94-101 BARCLAY). This trail was re-developed in 2021 by Michael Cayley and was badged by the Magna Carta Project on 22 June 2021. See the Magna Carta Trail below for the profiles in that trail.
See Base Camp for more information about Magna Carta trails. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as a "badged trail".

Magna Carta Trails

Badged Richardson-documented trail to Gilbert and Richard de Clare (MCA I:94-101 BARCLAY):
Gateway Ancestors
Robert Barclay (badged/100% 5-star)
John Barclay (badged/100% 5-star)
1. Robert and John are the sons of Katherine Gordon (badged 2021)
2. Katherine is the daughter of Lucy Gordon (badged 2021)
3. Lucy is the daughter of John Gordon (badged 2021)
4. John is the son of Alexander Gordon (badged 2021)
5. Alexander is the son of John Gordon (badged 2021)
6. John is the son of Alexander Gordon (badged 2021)
7. Alexander is the son of George Gordon (or Seton) (badged 2021)
8. George is the son of Alexander de Seton (aka Gordon) (badged 2021)
9. Alexander is the son of Elizabeth de Gordon (badged 2021)
10. Elizabeth is the daughter of Elizabeth de Keith (badged 2021)
11. Elizabeth is the daughter of Jean Stewart (badged 2021)
12. Jean is the daughter of Robert Stewart (badged)
13. Robert is the son of Marjorie de Brus (badged)
14. Marjorie is the daughter of Robert de Brus (badged/100% 5-star)
15. Robert is the son of Robert de Brus (badged/100% 5-star)
16. Robert is the son of Isabel de Clare (badged/100% 5-star)
17. Isabel is the daughter of Magna Carta Surety Baron Gilbert de Clare
18. Gilbert is the son of Magna Carta Surety Baron Richard de Clare
The Barclay brothers appear to have alternative trails through their maternal grandfather Sir Robert Gordon, Bt, but these are not pursued in Richardson's books.




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Removed image Barclay-174.jpg as I can't find anywhere that it is a public domain image or verification that it is actually an image of Robert Barclay.
posted by Traci Thiessen
edited by Traci Thiessen
That web page is available for public viewing...it does not state the image is public domain and can be copied.
posted by Traci Thiessen
if an image isn't public domain & WikiTree doesn't have permission to use the image, then it should not be in WikiTree at all. I'll be removing Magna Carta Project Images from the image (an image with no page/profile attached is deleted from WikiTree after a certain period... either a few weeks or a month, if I recall).
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
I wish we could stop playing arm chair lawyer. That image is of course in the public domain. If there is a problem ever with an image like this, and we are asked to take it down, we will take it down. It will never happen.
posted by Joe Cochoit
Traci and Liz are not playing "arm chair lawyer". They are rightfully expressing a concern that an image may not comply with WIkiTree policy regarding the use of copyrighted materials. They are simply taking a proactive stance instead of waiting until the image owner asks that it be removed which is the approach your post suggests. Their action conforms with both WikiTree and Magna Carta Project policy unlike a "wait and see" approach. I support their effort.
posted by David Douglass
Joe, I am afraid there is no ”of course it is public domain" about it. We should follow WikiTree policy on this whether some members like it or not. WikiTree policy on the use of material, including images, from websites is clear. You cannot assume because something is on a website it is in the public domain. Unfortunately some WikiTree members are not sufficiently alive to copyright issues.

The right course, legally and ethically and in line with WikiTree policy, is not to use images unless it is clear that it is permissible to do so. We should not make assumptions.

posted by Michael Cayley
edited by Michael Cayley
I just sent the following email to the owners of the website that I saw the image on. Greetings, A profile for Robert Barclay exists at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Barclay-174. I would like to add the image you have at https://www.fgcquaker.org/cloud/brevard-friends-meeting/pages/robert-barclay for the mentioned profile. May I have your permission to do so? David
posted by David Wilson
David, do we know that the owners of the website where you saw the image have permission to use the image ? Do we know the original source of this image, or the date of it's creation ? The image may be in the public domain however I have not be able to verify this. Even the WIkiPedia article on Barclay does not have an image.

There is a biography, "Robert Barclay, His Life and Work", by M. Christabel Cadbury, London, 1912 that indicates in the introduction that there are no known portraits of Robert Barclay, and then goes on to say that, "we have no details of his personal appearance", (Introduction, p 13) If this is the case we can not even be certain that the image is of Robert Barclay. You might consider posting a question to G2G, titled something like, "Attribution Unknown. Public Domain Image ? Ok to Post?" and get others take on the image.

http://jaquette.net/Barclay/Robert%20Barclay.pdf

posted by David Douglass
Perfect David! Thanks :D

I've posted a comment on the image file at https://www.wikitree.com/photo/jpg/Barclay-174

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
David Douglass is right. Even if the picture is described in some book as being of Robert Barclay, it may well just have been drawn from someone's imagination. That was quite a common practice, still happening in books published in my childhood, with some portraits like this being newly done but in a style which made them look as if they were drawn or painted a long time ago.

I have found the image not just on that website but also on one other. There is no indication of provenance, or anything to suggest that there was a right to use the image. I would not trust any permission given by the website proprietors. It is all too common for there to be images on websites that are placed there in breach of copyright. If there is a post in G2G, I am afraid I will argue against using it.

For the Quakers Project I am planning to write a section on policies which will cover the use of images among other things.

posted by Michael Cayley
edited by Michael Cayley
Thanks everyone. In light of the discussion, I'll go ahead and remove it from Space:Magna Carta Project Images.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
It appears to be a wood cutting from 100s of years ago. It is held to be contemporaneous. It appears on dozens to 100s of websites. It appears in dozens of books. This image is in the public domain 100%.

Even if it were not, it falls within the fair use doctrine and there is no problem placing it on WikiTree.

Even if it were not, and the copyright holder were to challenge the fair use of the image, the remedy is to take down the image. There are no legal or financial concerns with using an image such as this.

This is a ridiculous conversation. WikiTree drives me nuts with the lack of understanding of copyright.

posted by Joe Cochoit
Yet again, Joe, we differ. We have a clear Magna Carta Project policy, which is similar to that of at least some other Projects, and WT has a policy. There is no advantage in debating further.
posted by Michael Cayley
edited by Michael Cayley
Google "who was a Quaker apologist" and guess who pops up. I concur that it was not a nickname, but more of a description, such as in William Penn, the founder.
posted by William Collins
"Apologist" is just a convenient label that is sometimes used. It is not used in the headings of his entries in standard reference works, and is not a nickname.
posted by Michael Cayley
I am not really sure where I read/heard this, but I know a long time ago someone referenced this person by this name, though I did not really think of it as a nickname. I think by teachers in high school perhaps. Something should be somewhere to be able to support the 'nickname'.
posted by [Living Trogstad]
Agreed. He was a very famous apologist for the Quakers, as the bio makes clear, but Apologist was never a nickname.
posted by Michael Cayley
"The Apologist" as his nickname needs support in text. Otherwise, it should be deleted from the datafields.

Thanks!

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Barclay-2065 and Barclay-174 appear to represent the same person because: the Robert Barclay in my Family tree is the same as the Robert Barclay in your tree
posted by Lawrence Lamont
FYI: "In 1682 Robert was granted 5,000 acres of land in East New Jersey by the proprietors of that state (then province) and bestowed upon him the title of governor, a title which he never took up." [1] Perhaps the title is superfluous?
posted by Sunny (Trimbee) Clark
Barclay-1083 and Barclay-174 appear to represent the same person because: duplicates
posted by Doug Lockwood
Barkley-340 and Barclay-174 do not represent the same person because: do not appear to be thye same person
posted by Jeff Davidson