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Edmond Basye Sr. (abt. 1645 - bef. 1724)

Edmond Basye Sr.
Born about in Englandmap [uncertain]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 1670 in Northumberland County, Colony of Virginiamap
Descendants descendants
Died before before about age 79 in Wicomico Parish, Northumberland, Virginiamap [uncertain]
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Biography

Birth

Based on his first appearance in the public record discussed below, Edmond Basye is estimated to have been born in about 1645 in England, but the details of his origins are unknown.

Emigration to America

Edmond Basye had arrived in America and was present in Northumberland County, Colony of Virginia, by 1669. He first appears in the public record on 20 November 1669, when he witnessed a deed of gift in Northumberland County.[1][2]

It appears that he was originally transported to the Province of Maryland. On 21 December 1670, a headright was granted to Samuel Tracy of Baltimore, Maryland, for the transport of himself and three others, including Edmund Basye.[3] The Basye family tradition is that he landed at Old Point Lookout, Maryland; however, he crossed the Potomac shortly after his arrival and settled in Northumberland County, Colony of Virginia, where he lived for the rest of his life.[4]

Marriage

Edmond Basye married Eliza Taylor, probably in Northumberland County, Colony of Virginia, probably by 1668. Their oldest son, Isaac, was born in about 1671.[5] However, it is possible that their likely daughter Sarah was the oldest child, possibly born in about 1669.

Later Life

Edmond Basye was employed as an Attorney and appears frequently in the land, court, and other public records of Northumberland County, Colony of Virginia, during the period from 1669 until his death in 1724.[6]

Will & Probate

Edmond Basye made his will in Northumberland County, Colony of Virginia, on 2 October 1714. However, he lived for an additional nine years after that, adding a codicil to this will on 28 January 1723/4. This will was proved in Northumberland County on 18 March 1723/4.[7][8] An inventory of his estate was filed by his son Isaac on 20 May 1724.[9][10]

In this will, Edmond identifies the following sons, all of who received bequests of land:

  • John
  • Isaac (identified as oldest son)
  • Josiah
  • Elizamon
  • William
  • Edmond

He identifies the following daughters, who receive gifts of tobacco and other personal property:

  • Julilia Basy
  • Elisher Basy
  • Elizabeth Copedge

Death

Edmond Basye died in Northumberland County, Colony of Virginia, after making the codicil to his will on 28 January 1723/4 and before his will was proved on 18 March 1723/4.[7][8]

Children

Children of Edmond Basye and Eliza Taylor include:

The birth order of these children is uncertain. Isaac was the oldest son, based on Edmond's will, but all other birth years and birth order are speculative. All except Sarah are named in Edmond's will. Sarah is included based on the fact that the noncupative will of her husband was proved in 1710 based on the oaths of Isaac and John Bayse.

Additional individuals identified as children by some researchers based on unknown source include

Research Notes

Disputed Origins

One prior version of this profile claimed that he was born in 1645 at Sutton, Bedfordshire to Walter Noah Basye and Susannah McFarland. No reliable source was cited for this claim and the existence of this claimed parents is uncertain. They have been detached pending identification of a reliable source. Otto Basye concluded in his thoroughly-researched history of this family that the European Ancestry of Edmond Basye was unknown.[21]

There is a family tradition that the original Bayse emigrants to America were of Huguenot origin. Otto Basye discusses this theory extensively in his excellent book, and concludes that while it is likely that their ultimate origin was likely Huguenot, it is more likely that Edmond Basye was born in England and did not emigrated directly from France to America.[22]

Basye Family Papers Collection

A huge collection of family papers compiled by Otto Basye, the leading historian of the Basye family, has been donated to State Historical Society of Missouri. This collection includes "Correspondence, legal documents, clippings, account books, scrapbooks, photographs, Bible records, and papers collected to establish the Basye family genealogy." For additional details and information on accessing the collection, see The State Historical Society of Missouri, "Columbia Manuscript Collections," Collection No. C2505; link.

Sources

  1. Otto Basye, The Basye Family in the United States, (Kansas City, Mo.: s.p., 1950), 127; images, Internet Archive, (https://archive.org/details/basyefamilyinuni00basy : accessed 11 Jun 2023).
  2. Northumberland County, Virginia, Record Book 1666-1672, p. 145; image, FamilySearch, (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99P6-YHRK : accessed 11 Jun 2023); FHL 32,638, DGS 7,645,576.
  3. Otto Basye, The Basye Family in the United States, at 127; citing Province of Maryland Land Records.
  4. Otto Basye, The Basye Family in the United States, at 128.
  5. Otto Basye, The Basye Family in the United States, at 128 & 154.
  6. Otto Basye, The Basye Family in the United States, at 128-135.
  7. 7.0 7.1 Otto Basye, The Basye Family in the United States, at 134-135 (includes transcription).
  8. 8.0 8.1 Northumberland County, Virginia, Record Book 1718-1726, p. 401-402; images, FamilySearch, (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9LP-H4JM : accessed 11 Jun 2023); FHL 32,639, DGS 4,098,118.
  9. Otto Basye, The Basye Family in the United States, at 135-6 (includes transcription).
  10. Northumberland County, Virginia, Record Book 1718-1726, p. 410; image, FamilySearch, (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9LP-H46T : accessed 11 Jun 2023); FHL 32,639, DGS 4,098,118.
  11. Mike Marshall, "Early Colonial Settlers of Southern Maryland and Virginia's Northern Neck Counties," database (https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I118610 : accessed 12 Jun 223), Sarah Basye, Person I118610; citing Northumberland County probate records.
  12. Otto Basye, The Basye Family in the United States, at 154.
  13. Otto Basye, The Basye Family in the United States, at 161.
  14. Otto Basye, The Basye Family in the United States, at 158.
  15. Otto Basye, The Basye Family in the United States, at 162.
  16. Otto Basye, The Basye Family in the United States, at 164.
  17. Otto Basye, The Basye Family in the United States, at 166.
  18. Otto Basye, The Basye Family in the United States, at 167.
  19. Otto Basye, The Basye Family in the United States, at 167.
  20. Otto Basye, The Basye Family in the United States, at 168.
  21. Otto Basye, The Basye Family in the United States, at 127.
  22. Otto Basye, The Basye Family in the United States, at 54-62.




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Wow, I just realized that this family is traced in Adventurers of Purse and Person 4th ed. because Edmond's wife is actually Elisher Taylor - Eliza must be a nickname or corruption - and her mother was Alice Gaskins, daughter of Thomas Gaskins, who is the profiled Adventurer. That gives us a whole new package of sources to work through, which should provide us with all we need to clean the rest of this up. I will run this to ground and plan to follow the conclusions of AP&P as our complete list of their children. If anyone objects to any of the changes, please weigh in so we can discuss.
posted by Scott McClain
I am also removing the profile of Mary (Bayse) Everitt (Bayse-48) -- also lacks any reliable source, and according to the data fields neither she nor her husband have any connection to Virginia. There is no daughter Mary or any wife of an Everitt mentioned in Edmund's will.
posted by Scott McClain
Hello everyone - I have completed a profile clean up of this profile (and related for his children and spouse) for the US Southern Colonies Project. There are two children attached for whom I cannot find any reliable source: Rebecca (Basye) Lunsford and Unknown (Basye) Everett. Neither is mentioned Edmond's will. The sources cited in those profiles are difficult to decipher and/or flagged as unreliable in the profiles, so they do not appear to be reliable sources for pre-1700 profiles. I plan to detach those two children and add research notes explaining the dispute. If anyone disagrees with that approach, please weigh with a reliable source for the connections. Thanks!
posted by Scott McClain
Susannah Basye [Basye-23] as daughter of Edmond, Sr. and first wife, Elizabeth. Did you find that she was or was not his daughter?
posted by Janne (Shoults) Gorman
Sorry, just realized you flag that profile in your comment a couple months ago - thank you for flagging it. I have attached her for now as a third uncertain child. I have not seen any source for that child either however, and she's not named in Edmond's will or in Otto Basye's book. The FamilySearch profile which is the only source cited in her profile also does not cite a source. I would plan to treat put her in the same category as the other two unsourced daughter profiles, unless someone weighs in with a reliable source for these connections.
posted by Scott McClain
Thank you for attaching her. I don't see her mentioned in the Will of her father, which is transcribed on his page, but she is listed as a daughter, here: https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I83434&tree=Tree1
posted by Janne (Shoults) Gorman
I see a Sarah listed, but not a Susannah. Is that who you were referring to? That listing for Sarah does look promising - Marshall cites a noncupative will of William Howard, whose wife is Sarah, and the will was proved based on the oaths of Isaac and John Basie -- so that seems like a pretty good basis for adding her as the additional child. I just realized there is another unsourced profile floating around out there for a daughter Sarah though - Basye-4. I have attached that one to Edmund and Eliza too.
posted by Scott McClain
Oh, my eyes tricked me. I am so glad you are taking such great pains with this one. Thank you for all your hard work!
posted by Janne (Shoults) Gorman
Basye-398 and Basye-28 appear to represent the same person because: Father of Elishe Basye, who requires merging
posted by Janne (Shoults) Gorman
Janne, this task should be addressed by the U.S. Southern Colonies project. I am not capable of evaluating your requests.
posted by David Mark Cordell
Thank you, I sent a message to the Project leaders.
posted by Janne (Shoults) Gorman
Thanks Janne. I agree that Bayse-398 is an unsourced and orphaned duplicate of this profile, but it attaches the disputed parents referred to in the note on this profile (also unsourced). We can detach those parents and complete this merge to address the immediate issue, but this profile really needs a careful review and thorough edit to conform the biography and sources to project standards. Do you have a special interest in the profile? If so, would you consider taking on that clean up project? If not, any other volunteers to give it a try?
posted by Scott McClain
Please add Susannah Basye [Basye-23] as daughter of Edmond, Sr. and first wife, Elizabeth
posted by Janne (Shoults) Gorman
Basye-328 and Basye-28 appear to represent the same person because: Basically same date and place he died, and approximately same birth year. The surname of his wife is also the same, slightly different first name. Basye-328 has no sources that are acceptable for a pre-1700 profile. These two profiles look the same and should be merged. Thank you
posted by John Atkinson

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