John Bates (1598 - 1666)

Born 23 May 1598 in Kent, England [uncertain]

Husband of Elizabeth Mary (Winston) Bates — married about 12 Aug 1624 in Bruton Parish, James City, Virginia [uncertain]

Descendants

Died 13 Mar 1666 at age 67 in Middleton, Bruton Parish, York County, Colony of Virginia

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Disputed Origins

It has been claimed that John Bates of Virginia was the son of James Bate(s) and Mary Martine. However, evidence shows that this couple's son John was buried 6 Mar 1606, which would mean that James and Mary couldn't have been the parents of John, whose known children don't include a James or a Mary.^[1]

Biography

John Bates was born in Kent, England.

John arrived in Jamestown aboard the ship Southampton in 1623.

John Bates was a Jamestown colonist.

John was listed in the 1624/5 Jamestown Muster.

John Bates is a Qualifying Ancestor of the Jamestowne Society

John Bates^[2]

Arrival

John Bates migrated from England to Virginia.

John BATES boarded the ship "Southampton" which sailed for VIrginia in Oct 1623 with 30 passengers, while accompanying the Pierseys. Captain Harvey requested permission for trip to Virginia 9 July 1623.^[3] John was on the King's Muster, travelling on 20 January 1624/5, to obtain a census of the Royal colony following the liquidation of the Virginia Company. ^[4]

John Bates was listed in the muster of Abraham Peirsey at Peirsey's Hundred, 1624/5, as aged 24, apparently unmarried. He married Elizabeth ______, named with his four children in his will dated 2 Sept 1666 and proved 24 Jan 1667/8.^{[5] [6] [7]}

Marriage & Children

John Bates married Elizabeth in James City about 1624, but more evidence is needed to confirm Elizabeth's maiden name. Please see the Research Notes.

It appears that their children were born in James City "Incorporation," part of which became Charles River County in 1634. George Bates' record specifies Bruton Parish.

1. George Bates M - 23 May 1625
2. John Bates M - 29 Aug 1627
3. Anne Bates F - 1630
4. Alyse Bates Deane F - 1632
5. Susanna Bates F - 30 Sep 1635

Land Patents

Possible patents recorded in Charles River County in name of John Batts should be attributed to this John Bates of Charles River County.

• Apr 1639 - John Batts & John Davis, 750 acs. Chas. Riv. Co., 2 Apr. 1639, p. 638. At the head of Queens Cr. ... 50 acs. each for their own per. adv. & 650 acs. for the trans. of 13 pers: Samll. Charywell, Wm. Thomas, Joseph Drewer, Edward Marshall, Tho. Lockly, John Fling, due to John Batts; .... Renewed in the name of John Davis for 450 acs. & 300 acs. in the name of Stephen Gill.^[8]
• July 1640 - Stephen Gill, 300 acs. Chas. Riv. Co., July 3, 1640, p/. 722. ... Part of patent formerly granted unto John Batts & John Deines [Davis] for 750 acs. dated 2 Apr. 1639, which 300 acs. assigned by said Batts to sd. Gill.^[8]
• 15 Sep 1655: John Bates, 50 acs., 15 Sept, 1655, p. 377. Lying at the Middle plantation ... Due by purchase from George Lake.^[8]

5 Mar 1665: Renewal of above patent^[8]

Death

John Bates died between 21 September 1666, date of Will, and 24 January 1667, the date the Will was proved in Court, according to most sources.

York County Will Abstract

Note that this source gives the probate date as June. " Bates, John, Middletown Parish, 21 Sep 1666, 24 Jun 1667. Eldest daughter Anne; son George; daughter Alse Deane; John Bates my youngest son; wife Elizabeth executrix. (Codicil same date.) Witnesses: William Winston, George Bates, William Deane. "^[9]

Probate of the Will of John Bates

: Date: 24 JAN 1667

Place: York County, Virginia, Will Book 4, p. 165

In the name of God, Amen

I John Bates of the County of York in Middletowne parish being very sick and weak yet in perfect memorie do here make my last will and testament.

FIRST I comitt my soul to my Creator and Redeemer, Next my body to the earth to be buried in Xtian burial at ye disposing of my wife and for my other worldly estate as followeth.

ITEM I give and bequeath unto my eldest daughter Anne Bellbee one pide cowe called Primrose to be delivered after my decease.

ITEM I give and bequeath to my sonne George Bates one cowe called Souarkin to be delivered after my decease.

ITEM I give and bequeath unto my daughter Alse Deane one two year old Heifer called Marigold to be delivered to her after my decease.

ITEM I give and bequeath unto John Bates my youngest sonne one cowe called cole and one two year old heifer called Stone and one cowe calfe to be delivered him after my decease, and likewise one featherbed, bowlster and likewise I give all my land which I now hold by patent unto my said sonne John Bates, likewise I give unto my sonne John Bates one younge sowe with pigge to be delivered after my decease.

ITEM I give and bequeath unto my wife Elizabeth Bates all my other estate moveable not moveable and likewise my will is that my wife shall enjoy my land during her life. Furthermore I make my wife Elizabeth Bates my whole sole Executrix of what estate I have not bequeathed to my children, and I doe appoint my oldest sonne George Bates my overseer of this my last will and Testament to see it performed, as witness my hand this 21st of September 1666

The mark of John (X) Bates

Teste George Bates, his mark Robert Cobbs

Furthermore I the sd. John Bates do bequeath to my wife Elizabeth three barrells and halfe of corne to be at her disposing. I doe give and bequeath to my sonne George Bates my best hatt and Cloth Coat and breeches. I doe give and bequeath to my sonne John Bates one hogshead of tobacco and one young horse, my sonne in respect to pay all my debts in ye Generall.

The mark of John (X) Bates

Teste William Winston George Bates William Deane

The will and Codicill annext proved in Court on January 24th 1667 by William Winston, George Bates and William Deane and Recorded.

L.J. Badkerville Clk. Cur.

Research Notes

• Conflation possibly explains the addition of a middle name "Isaac" to this profile, since no burial date is given for Isaac, son of James and Mary. As is known, middle names were uncommon in this time frame and "Isaac" may have been added to preserve the link to James and Mary. It probably should be removed. Strutton-11 21:09, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
• Regarding the spousal identification, Ancestry.com matching and indexing identifies some references merely on the entry of John Bates and Elizabeth Winston's names and living dates, including, which should confirm their relationship and origins:
  • Tidewater Virginia Families ^[10]
  • This source states: "It is said that he married Elizabeth Winston; however the only reason for this conclusion appears to have been the fact that William Winston witnessed the will of John Bates. There does not seem to be any evidence that the Winstons and the Bates were in the same place at the early date that John and Elizabeth would have married. [Ch 15, 425] Strutton-11 20:09, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
• Seventeenth Century Colonial Ancestors, Vol I ^[11]
  • This sources states only: "Bates, John (cl1598/99-1666) Va.; m. Elizabeth Winston. Landowner." No source cited for marriage or maiden name of Elizabeth. Strutton-11 20:09, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Persons with subscriber access to Ancestry.com should be able to further develop these potential sources. Links for Ancestry.com as a repository for the above-listed works are included in the Sources.

• One World - Ancestry.com Listing (no longer available 8 Sep 2021)
• Boddie, JB: Virginia Historical Genealogies, Mallory article, refers to a John Batts or Batt patenting land in 1639 and 1643. Would that be this John? Boddie thinks it may have been Capt. John Batte of Oakwell - causing much confusion, because it wasn't. . .

Sources

1. ↑ For the burial record of John Bates, apparently taken from the parish record of Lydd, see the Bates Bulletin, Series III, Vol. 1, October1917, Number 1; digital image on the profile of Mary (Martine) Bates.
2. ↑ Jamestowne Society: ​Bates, John - A604; born 1601, died 1667/8, York Co.; (Ancient Planter, Muster of 1624/5) accessed 17 December 2018
3. ↑ Records of The VA Company of London, Vol. II, reprinted in "The Bates Booster," 25:3, May 1996.
4. ↑ Kinard, June. comp. . . Early Immigrants to Virginia from the 1500s and 1600s [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000. Original data: The Researchers, PO Box 39063, Indianapolis IN 46239-0063. See also: Musters of the Inhabitants in Virginia 1624/1625 Chapters, P 201, excerpted from: John Camden Hotten: London, 1874. Reprint by Empire State Book Company, New York. Accessed 16 Dec 2016.
5. ↑ Dorman, Vol. 1, p. 206
6. ↑ Muster Records, Virtual Jamestown, Virginia Center for Digital History, University of Virginia.
7. ↑ Kinard, June. comp.. Early Immigrants to Virginia from the 1500s and 1600s [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000. Original data: Published by The Researchers, PO box 39063, Indianapolis IN. 46239-0063.
8. ↑ ^{8.0 8.1 8.2 8.3} Nugent, Nell Marion. Cavaliers and Pioneers. Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants, 1623-1666, Vol. I, Virginia State Library, Virginia Genealogical Society. Richmond, Press of the Dietz Print Co. 1934, [https://archive.org/details/cavalierspioneer00nuge/page/106/mode/2up pages 107, 122, 316, 544.
9. ↑ Crozier, William Armstrong. Virginia County Records, 1864-1913. 1905, York County Wills, p. 67. Baltimore, Genealogical Publishing Company.
10. ↑ Source: S144 Title: Tidewater Virginia Families Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006. Author: Ancestry.com Original data - Davis, Virginia Lee Hutcheson. Tidewater Virginia Families. Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2004. Repository: #R1 Note: Tidewater Virginia Families
11. ↑ Source: S2324414926 Title: Seventeenth Century Colonial Ancestors, Vol. I Note: Seventeenth Century Colonial Ancestors, Vol. I Repository: #R1

• Dorman, John Frederick. Adventurers of Purse and Person 1607-1624/5 Fourth Edition. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2004.
• Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Author: Gale Research Note: Psgr Img Lists Repository: #R1 Repository: R1 Name: Ancestry.com
• U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Author: Yates Publishing Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Note: Int Mar Rec
• York County, 1648-1657 Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004.Original data - Fleet, Beverley,. York County, 1648-1657. Baltimore: Genealogical Pub. Co., 1961.Original data: Fleet, Beverley,. York County, 1648-1657. Baltimore: Genealogical Pub. Co. Note: York, Virginia Repository: #R2198041564
• Ancestral Line for Eight Generations of Captain Lemuel Bates, 1720-1820, with some records of his descendants Author: Bates, Albert Carlos Publication: Hartford CT, 1943 Repository: #R18 Call Number: 929.2 B3184B Repository: R18 Name: Allen County Public Library Address: City: Ft Wayne State: IN
• Virginia Muster of 1624/5 (no sign of a wife at this date).
• McCartney: page 119.

See also:

• Withington, Lothrop. Virginia Gleanings in England: Abstracts of 17th and 18th-Century English Wills and Administrations Relating to Virginia and Virginians: A Consolidation of Articles from The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography. Baltimore: Clearfield Company, 1998.

• Albion's Seed, David Hackett Fischer, Oxford University Press, 1989. Retrieved from First Families of Virginia
• Bates Family of Old Virginia