James Edward Bates (1758 - 1820)

Born 1758 in Rutherford, North Carolina

Husband of Elizabeth (Tubb) Bates — married 19 Jul 1782 in Rutherford Co, NC

Descendants

Died 1820 at about age 62 in Cane Creek (Hickman) Tennessee

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James Bates served with North Carolina during the American Revolution.

James Bates was a North Carolina colonist.

Biography

James Edward Bates was born in 1758. He married Elizabeth Tubb 19 July 1782 ^[1]

Research Notes

Note: According to the Bates Association, as well as our own research, we have hit a brick wall with Edward. He was born in North Carolina and was married there, then he moved to South Carolina later in life. They were heavily involved in the Baptist churches in a pocket area.

: Bond Date: 19 Jul 178[?]

He was one of the 7 Bates Brothers of Hickman County Tennessee:

"A year after I wrote the above paragraphs summarizing our research on James Bates and Elizabeth Tubb, I received a golden piece of evidence from Mrs. R. C. Kremser of Clarksdale, Mississippi. Mrs. Kremser has been researching the Tubb family and has written a manuscript (as far as I know as yet unpublished) about them called "An Agnate Line - Tubb". She has sent me the text of a letter written by George Mathiston Tubb to his niece, Maggie Tubb (He was born on 27 February 1826; lived at Waverly, TN.; died 29 April 1922). The letter was written in 1912 and deals with the origins of the Tubb family. I quote a portion of the letter,

'One of the grand daughters of the first named Tubb married a man named Bates. He lived in Hickman County on Cane Creek. Some of their descendants still live in Hickman County. One of them, Alonzo Bates, a lawyer at Centerville. Another of his grand daughters married a man named _Few.'^[2]

Leah Townsend's - "South Carolina Baptists 1670-1805" has a James and Elizabeth Bates as members of the Head of Enoree Baptist Church in Greenville, South Carolina. He left South Carolina some time between 1804 and 1810

James Bates is in the Dickson County court records in 1813 on a road crew.

The will book in Dickson County Tennessee lists a will for George Tubb, 17 Oct 1836, in which he name Pheba Cooksey's children as his grandchildren. The membership list of the Head of Enoree church 1800-1801 in Greenville South Carolina lists Pheby Cooksey. Note both Dickson County and Maury Counties are adjacent to Hickman County in Tennessee.

Mrs R C Kremser of Clarksdale, Mississippi has written a manuscript called "An Agnate Line - Tubbs" in which is written - "One of the grad daughters of the first named Tubb married a man named Bates. He lived in Hickman County on Cane Creek. Some of their descendants still live in Hickman county. One of them, Alonzo Bates, a lawyer at Centerville.

Sources

1. ↑ Original data: State of North Carolina. An Index to Marriage Bonds Filed in the North Carolina State Archives. 1741-1868 Raleigh, NC, USA: North Carolina Division of Archives and History, 1977.
2. ↑ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jebates/jb&et/Bates1.html#3

• The "James Bates Family Bible" of Halifax County located on Ancestry.com. It lists his wife as Winifred Hix and lists their children. There are 13 pages of information. Another source which I cannot remember listed his name as James M. Bates. The Taylor Family Tree located on Ancestry.com listed his name as Matthew Bates.
• James Bates & Elizabeth Tubb : parents of the 7 Bates brothers of Hickman County, Tennessee? Frances A Bates. Greenbelt, MD : James E. Bates, ©1988.
• "United States Rosters of Revolutionary War Soldiers and Sailors, 1775-1783," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QG2M-1G46 : 1 March 2021), James Bates, 15 Mar 1779; citing Military Service, North Carolina, United States, Citing various published state rosters, United States; FHL microfilm 102229242.
• "United States Rosters of Revolutionary War Soldiers and Sailors, 1775-1783," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSHS-PS9Q-W?cc=2546162&wc=WD6Q-R9Q%3A1590063749 : 24 January 2018), North Carolina, Roster of soldiers from North Carolina in the American Revolution > image 125 of 726; citing various published state rosters, United States. James Bates
• First-hand knowledge of Jeanne Lunn Aloia. Family Bibles and Letters.
• The Bates Association has the Southern and Northern Bates Information The Bates Bulletin Series VIII, Volume I Number 2, Summer 1999
• Bates DNA
• "North Carolina, County Marriages, 1762-1979 ," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q28R-NVX5 : 9 March 2021), James Baits and Elisabeth Tubbs, 19 Jul 1782; citing Rutherford, North Carolina, United States, p. , North Carolina State Archives Division of Archives and History; FHL microfilm 2,447,752.

James Baits, Marriage -19 Jul 1782, Rutherford, North Carolina, United States. Male.

Spouse's Name: Elisabeth Tubbs, Female

• "United States Census, 1790," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHKN-QCN : accessed 22 March 2021), James Baytes, Greenville, South Carolina, United States; citing p. 103, NARA microfilm publication M637, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 11; FHL microfilm 568,151.

James Baytes, 1790 Census, Greenville, South Carolina, United States

• Heads of Families at the First Census of the United States Taken in the Year 1790: South Carolina [database on-line]. Original data: 1790 US Census at ancestry.com
• Land Grants to James Bates in Tennessee: Knoxville Paper

• "United States Bureau of Land Management Tract Books, 1800-c. 1955", database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:669P-ZGWP : 28 January 2022), James Bates, 1820.

• Revolutionary War Soldiers for NC and SC, Data provided by the website Carolana. (accessed 12 Jan 2022)