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Mary Martha Bates (abt. 1832)

Mary Martha Bates
Born about [location unknown]
[spouse(s) unknown]
[children unknown]
Died [date unknown] [location unknown]
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Biography

Mary was the child of Joseph Bates and Eliza Armstrong. [1]

Research Notes

Not the same as her niece Mary Martha (Bates) Wright (1851-1886) for whom several records exist to indicate different parents. See notes of Charles Armstrong Bates (abt.1822-abt.1898) for discussion.

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Things got confusing without having photographic evidence, due to the fact that he had 2 wives. However, the dates are wrong somewhere. If she was 36 in 1886, that means she was born in 1850 - 5 years after her dad Joseph's death in 1845 (which I know for a fact as I have seen that gravestone). It is possible her mum Eliza could have shacked up with someone else, but for discretions-sake I have given her a birth year of 1845. She also may have lied (as is a woman's prerogative) about her age... So it seems she died in child-birth, did the child survive? Kathryn :)

posted by Kathryn Bates
Well you can't just invent birth years ... the more obvious explanation for being 36 in 1886 is that Joseph Bates and Elizabeth Armstrong were not the parents of the person who died at Akaroa , and these are two different people both called Mary Martha Bates.

In fact there is a death certificate for the daughter of Joseph Bates, dated 16 Jan 1867 at Munterneese, Co. Donegal, Ireland. (The same place that Joseph Bates died). See Ancestry Profile.

There is some pretty compelling evidence for Mrs. William Wright being the daughter of Charles Armstrong Bates (and therefore the niece of Bates-5857) . I have updated their profiles with link to primary sources. What do you reckon?

posted by Matt McNabb
edited by Matt McNabb
I think you may have conflated two people here -- the wife of William Wright of Akaroa died in 1886 age 36 -- and had a child in 1886 -- which seems to rule out an 1832 birth.
posted by Matt McNabb
edited by Matt McNabb

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