Elizabeth (Bates) Lawrence
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Elizabeth (Bates) Lawrence (1610 - 1679)

Elizabeth Lawrence formerly Bates
Born in Limpsfield, Surrey, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Daughter of [uncertain] and [uncertain]
Wife of — married 1638 in Hingham, (now in Plymouth county), Massachusettsmap
Descendants descendants
Died at age 68 in Dorchester, Massachusettsmap
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Elizabeth (Bates) Lawrence was born in Surrey, England.

Biography

Elizabeth Bates was born 11 March 1610 in England. However, Edmund and Elizabeth show no documentation of ever having a daughter by this name. I believe her to be, rather, the daughter of Edmunds brother, James, and his wife, Alice Glover.

Having found the following information, I changed her parents to be James Bates and Alice Glover. (Jeanne Aloia)


http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=genepoolb&h=306106&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt&ssrc=pt_t24511883_p27101500160_kpidz0q3d27101500160z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid

  • Family Data Collection - Births about Elizabeth Bates
  • Name: Elizabeth Bates
  • Father: James Bates
  • Mother: Alice Glover
  • Birth Date: 10 Mar 1610

City: Limpfield County: S Country: England

It is possible this is the same Elizabeth Bate(s)? Elizabeth Bate Arrival Year: 1628 Arrival Place: Weymouth, Massachusetts Source Publication Code: 8395 Primary Immigrant: Bate, Elizabeth Annotation: Date and port of arrival or date and place of first mention of residence in the New World. In some cases, the name of the ship and spousal information is also provided. Source Bibliography: SHERMAN, JOHN H. "'Second Boat' Ancestors." In The Second Boat (Pentref Press, Machias, ME), vol. 4:2 (Aug. 1983), pp. 49-55. Page: 49

Name

Name: Elizabeth Bates[1]

Birth

Birth: 10 Mar 1610, Limpfield, Surrey, England

Arrival

Arrival: 1628, Weymouth, Massachusetts[1]

Elizabeth Bate Arrival Year: 1628 Arrival Place: Weymouth, Massachusetts Source Publication Code: 8395 Primary Immigrant: Bate, Elizabeth Annotation: Date and port of arrival or date and place of first mention of residence in the New World. In some cases, the name of the ship and spousal information is also provided. Source Bibliography: SHERMAN, JOHN H. "'Second Boat' Ancestors." In The Second Boat (Pentref Press, Machias, ME), vol. 4:2 (Aug. 1983), pp. 49-55. Page: 49

Marriage

Marriage: abt 1635-1638, Hingham, Plymouth, Massachusetts
Husband: Thomas Lawrence
Child: Susan Lawrence
Child: Richard Lawrence
Child: Esther Lawrence
Child: Anna Lawrence
Child: Thomas Lawrence
Child: Mary Lawrence
Child: Nicholas Lawrence
Child: Elizabeth Lawrence
Child: Sarah Lawrence

Death

Death: 18 Feb 1679, Dorchester, Suffolk, Massachusetts. Age 68.

Parents

Marriage: 13 Sep 1603, Lydd, Kent, England
Husband: James Bates
Wife: Alice Glover
Child: Thomazine Bates
Child: Johanna Bates
Child: Edward Bates
Child: William Bates
Child: Richard Bates
Child: Elizabeth Bates
Child: Clements Bates
Child: Lydia Bates
Child: Mary Bates
Child: Margaret Bates
Child: Lydia Bates
Child: John Bates
Child: James Bates

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Source: #S2323814666 Data: Arrival date: 1628, Arrival place: Weymouth, Massachusetts.

Source Information: Edmund West, comp.. Family Data Collection - Births [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2001. Description: The Family Data Collection - Births database was created while gathering genealogical data for use in the study of human genetics and disease.


  • Source: S2205467922 Repository: #R2198041564 Title:  : Ancestry Family Trees Publication
  • Source: S2324605628 Repository: #R2198041564 Title: Lincolnshire, England, Extracted Parish Records Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2001.Original data - Electronic databases created from various publications of parish and probate records.Original data: Electronic databases created from various publications of parish and Note:
  • Source: S-1377208261 Repository: #R-1566780420 Ancestry Family Trees Publication
  • Repository: R-1566780420 Name: Ancestry.com Address: http://www.Ancestry.com




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Very good discussion, with sources, of Elizabeth's identity: https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Elizabeth_Unknown_(4206)

Possible she isn't a Bates at all.

posted by Laurie Constantino
James Bate and Alice Glover are featured in Great Migration 1634-1635, A-B by Robert C. Anderson, and there is no daughter named Elizabeth. (see "father" James Bates-732 for a link)
posted by Cynthia (Billups) B
John Schmeeckle

I am trying to confirm Elizabeth's parents as I realize there is some doubt that they were James Bates and Alice Glover. I have posted a page from The Bates Bulletin 1916 where there is information about Elizabeth.

Please look at Bates-1474 and let me know what you think,

Jeanne Aloia

posted by Jeanne (Lunn) Aloia
Bates-1474 and Bates-736 appear to represent the same person because: Dates, parents and siblings match.
posted by Jeanne (Lunn) Aloia
Robin, I took what you said about Edmund and Elizabeth not having a daughter named Elizabeth. The information I found on Ancestry seems to back that up and to show that James Bates and Alice Glover were, indeed, her rightful parents. Let me know if you have any problems with my changing the profile to include that information!
posted by Jeanne (Lunn) Aloia
Jeanne, thank you for your work looking into this mystery. The Ancestry.com record that you posted is from the "Family Data Collection" which is just reported data, not based on primary sources. See this Wikitree article on the database: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Family_Data_Collection_-_Births
posted by Jared West
Elizabeth Bates wasn't the daughter of James Bates and Alice Glover. Rather, she was the sister of Edward Bates of Weymouth, per http://genforum.genealogy.com/bates/messages/7247.html
posted by [Living Schmeeckle]

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