Hist & Gen Acc't of Fam of Greeville 1766 p.29-31 (GS #929.242 G669e)
The Roll of Battle Abbey p. 26 (GS #942 M23b)
Plantagenet Ancestry p. 117 (GS #940 D2t)
Dict of Nat'l Biog, vol 4 p. 32-33, vol 39, p. 126, 128 (GS #Ref 920.042 D561n)
Baker's Hist of Nrthmp vol 2 p. 219 (GS #Q942.55 H2ba)
Dugdale's Baronage p. 226 (GS #Q942 D22dw)
Peerage of the British Isles 1883 p.29- 30 (GS #942 D22bug)
The Battle Abbey Roll vol 1 p. 129 (GS #942 D2bb)
Wurts, Magna Charta, Vol 1-2 p. 203-4 (GS #942 D22w)
Testa de Nevill (London: Published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, 1920) Part I. A.D. 1198-1242.
Page 34: A.D. 1208-1213. "...Wilikin de Beauchamp, the heir of William de Beauchamp who died in 1197. This Wilikin died under age in the summer of 1209, when his lands passed to another minor, Walter, or Watekin, de Beauchamp, who survived until 1236."
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I am baffled by the FMG links. Sometimes they open to the intended person, sometimes to the top of a section. I found this Walter Beauchamp, not in the English Lords section, but in the Untitled English Nobility section. If my link below doesn't work for you, go to British Isles, England, Post Conquest, Untitled English Nobility A-C, Beauchamp, BEAUCHAMP of ELMLEY, WORCESTERSHIRE. Navigating up this Beauchamp tree I see Walter Beauchamp (1197-1236) = Joan Mortimer (1194-1225). Walter is descended from William Beauchamp (-1197) = Amice. William (-1197) is descended from William Beauchamp (-1170) = Bertha de Braose or Briouse, daughter of [WILLIAM [II] de Briouse & his wife Bertha of Hereford. I don't have access to many of the sources listed here in Wikitree, but I do know Boyer and Weiss throw up their hands when the Beauchamp tree reaches these generations. I'd love to hear if the Wiki community has considered the William Beauchamp (-1197) = Amice generation from FMG and if so, are there reasons it isn't considered authoritative.
1. This is a normal problem, but simply caused by the fact that Charles Cawley changes the website links relatively often. We need to update our links sometimes. It is not a mistake on our side.
2. MEDLANDS is another volunteer run website so not always a better authority than Wikitree itself given our improving pre-1500 standards, but it is always interesting to check what is there. Concerning this family I have been in correspondence with Charles over the years comparing notes and so in effect the two websites have sometimes been looking at it together.
3. Concerning what to do in this family if you look at the discussions on the profiles and G2G it looks like we are shaping up to make a few changes. I think I will now go ahead and bring Walter into the same generation as William "IV". I wish I had a copy of Emma Mason's Beauchamp cartulary though.
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntac.htm#WalterBeauchampMJoanMOrtimer
2. MEDLANDS is another volunteer run website so not always a better authority than Wikitree itself given our improving pre-1500 standards, but it is always interesting to check what is there. Concerning this family I have been in correspondence with Charles over the years comparing notes and so in effect the two websites have sometimes been looking at it together. 3. Concerning what to do in this family if you look at the discussions on the profiles and G2G it looks like we are shaping up to make a few changes. I think I will now go ahead and bring Walter into the same generation as William "IV". I wish I had a copy of Emma Mason's Beauchamp cartulary though.