Thomas (Berkeley) de Berkeley
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Thomas (Berkeley) de Berkeley (abt. 1245 - 1321)

Lord Thomas "The Wise, 1st Baron Berkeley" de Berkeley formerly Berkeley
Born about in Berkeley Castle, Gloucestershire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married about 1267 in Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 76 in St Augustines Abbey,Bristol,Gloucestershire,England.map
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Preceded by
Maurice (II) de Berkeley the Resolute
Lord of Berkeley
1281-1321
Succeeded by
Maurice (III) de Berkeley the Magnanimous
Preceded by
new creation
Baron Berkeley
1283-1321
Succeeded by
Maurice (III) de Berkeley the Magnanimous

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Biography

1st Baron Berkeley, was an English baron, soldier and diplomat. Known as "The Wise", he was in the parliament under Kings Edward I and II. He fought at the Battle of Bannockburn, was taken prisoner there, and paid a huge sum for his ransom.[1]
Knight, Baron of Berkeley, Vice Constable of England, 2nd but 1st surviving son of Maurice de Berkeley and Isabel FitzRoy. Husband of Joan Ferrers, daughter of the 5th Earl of Derby by Margaret de Quincy, married 1267. Joan's maritagium included the manors of Coston in Leicestershire and Eynesbury Berkeley in Huntingdonshire. Thomas and Joan had three sons, Sir Maurice, John and James, the Bishop of Exeter, as well as two daughters, Margaret and Isabel. There was a possible son, Thomas, who died young. Thomas was present at the Battle of Evesham in 1265, the first expedition against Llywelyn, Prince of Wales in 1277, and in the second invasion with King Edward II in 1282. Thomas earned the title of 1st Baron of Berkeley in June of 1283. He was summoned to Parliament in 1295 as Thome de Berkelegh and Lord Berkeley. Thomas was also employed on an embassy to France to visit Pope Clement V, fought at the Battle of Falkirk in 1298, at the siege of Caerlaverock Castle in 1300. The conflict with the burghers of Bristol would become violent after a long struggle with the Berkeley family in 1303. At the Battle of Bannockburn, June 24, 1314, Thomas would be taken prisoner, paying a large sum for his ransom. Thomas died at Berkeley, his wife died eleven years before him.[1]

He was a commissioner to examine the claims to the crown of Scotland in June 1292. He was on an embassy to France in January 1296 and held the office of Vice-Constable of England in 1297. He fought in the Battle of Falkirk on 22 July 1298 and fought in the siege of Caerlaverock in July 1300. He was on an embassy to Pope Clement V in July 1307. He fought in the Battle of Bannockburn on 24 June 1314, where he was taken prisoner, and paid a large sum for his ransom.

Parents

Father: Maurice II De Berkeley[1][2]/Maurits Lord Berkeley[3]
Mother: Isabel (Chilham) Berkeley[1][2]/Isabelle Plantagenet[3]

Marriage

Wife: Joan Ferrers[1][2]/Johanna Ferrers[3]
Marriage:
Date: 1267
Place: Berkeley Castle, Berkeley, Gloucestershire[2]
Children:
  1. Child: Thomas Deberkeley/Thomas Lord Berkeley van Coston[3]
  2. Child: Margaret Berkeley[3]
  3. Child: Alice Berkeley[3]
  4. Child: Maurice Iii 'The Magnanimous' 2nd Baron Berkeley[1][2]
from information on page 205, The Berkeley Manuscripts (archive.org, accessed April 7, 2015):

Thomas Berkeley, son of Maurice, married in 1267[4] Joane, daughter of William de Ferrars the younger and his second wife Margaret, eldest daughter and coheir of Roger de Quincy. Thomas was about age 24 ("about the xxijth year of his age, and about the one and fiftieth yeare of the raigne of kinge Henry the third, what time Maurice his elder brother was livinge"). Thomas and Joane had "issue that came to ripenes of age" four sons and two daughters. Maurice, the oldest son, and John,[5] a younger brother of Thomas, are named. Thomas, the second son, was "stock-father of that honored family of the Berkeleys of Wymondham in the County of Leicester, where his male posterity flourisheth at this daye. Anno 1628." He married Isabel, dau. and heir of Sir John Hamelin Lord of Wymondham (by the "xi.th of Edward the seconde"[6]).

Death

Date: 23 Jul 1321[2][3]
Place : Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England[2]

Burial

Place: Bristol Cathedral, Bristol.
Bristol Unitary Authority, Bristol, England[1]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 Thomas Berkeley on FindAGrave
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 Thomas II De Berkeley in the Millennium File Heritage Consulting. Millennium File [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2003. Original data: Heritage Consulting. The Millennium File. Salt Lake City, UT, USA: Heritage Consulting.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 Thomas II Lord Berkeley in the Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-Current Ancestry.com. Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-Current [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014. Original data: GenealogieOnline. Coret Genealogie. http://www.genealogieonline.nl/en/: accessed 4 September 2014
  4. p 207, The Berkeley Manuscripts: Joane d March 19, 1309 after 42 years of marriage (1309 - 42 = m 1267); this matches with Henry III's 51st year (1216+51=1267) and this information would also lead to a birth year for Thomas of 1243 (1267 - 24 = b 1243)
  5. p 209, The Berkeley Manuscripts
  6. the date on a deed from his father to him and his wife Isabel, p 210, The Berkeley Manuscripts




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Place of death is wrong - that is where he is buried. Bio states he died in Berkeley (most likely Castle Berkeley). Burial location should be in bio; not in place of death. Thanks.
posted by Debra (Adams) Akin
Just curious if Thomas's connection to his parents is well enough sourced for his radio dials to be set to Certain for his parents?
posted by Cheryl Cruise
The so called nick-names ascribed to the various barons Berkeley originated in Smyth's 'The Berkeley Manuscripts' which is attached as a source above. [The Berkeley manuscripts. The lives of the Berkeleys, lords of the honour, castle and manor of Berkeley, in the county of Gloucester, from 1066 to 1618; by Smyth, John, 1567-1640.]

Smyth based his work on documents held in the archives at Berkeley as well as other legal documents and testimony from family members and is a very good starting point for working out the relationships between members of this family. Many other 'sources' are derived from Smyth's work e.g. 'FindAGrave' also referred to above. Caution! : Whilst FindAGrave 'sources' may contain some useful information there are also some which have unsourced and factually incorrect biographies attached.

posted by Robert King
BERKELEY THOMAS II Younger son and heir of Maurice II de Berkeley and Isabel de Chilham alias of Dover

[CFR EI] 18 April 1281. Order to Ralph de Sandwyco, the king's steward, to deliver to Thomas de Berkele, son and heir of Maurice de Berkele, tenant in chief, the lands late of his said father, he having done homage.

[CPR EI] 6 February 1283. Licence for Thomas de Berkeley, for life, to hunt with his own dogs the fox, hare, badger and polecot, in the forest of Mynedep and in the chace of Kyngeswode, on both sides of the river Avon by Bristol, except in the fence-month; provided that he take no deer, nor course in the king's warrens.

[CCW EI] 26 November 1283. Mandate to make letters pardoning to Thomas de Berkeleye, knight, for his good service in Wales, 100 marks in which he is bound to the king for his relief.

[CFR EI] 30 December 1284. Order to the treasurer and barons of the Exchequer to cause enrolment to be made pursuant to the king's pardon to Thomas de Berkeley of 200 marks of the 700 marks wherein he is held to the king for Thomas son of Maurice of Ireland, who made fine in that sum for his marriage, which sum assigned to Baruncinus Gualteri and his fellows, merchants of Lucca, whereupon the same Thomas de Berkeley acknowledged in Chancery that he owed the said sum to them, and pursuant to the king's grant that the residue he render 100 marks at Michelmas, 14EI, and 100 marks at Easter following, and so from year to year.

[CPR EI] 20 October 1289. Protection, with clause volumus, until Easter, for Thomas de Berkeleye, going beyond seas with Roger le Bygod, earl of Norfolk, marshal of England.

[CCR EI] 28 August 1291. To the keeper of the chace of Bristol. Order to cause Thomas de Berkele to have in that chace six bucks of the king's gift. To Roger Lestrange, justice of the forest beyond Trent. Order to cause the said Thomas to have in the forest of Bradene six bucks of the king's gift.

Over the next two years, Thomas was granted similar gifts of deer.

[CPR EI] 22 November 1297. Pardon to Thomas de Berkeleye, for his services while staying lately with the king in Flanders, of 500 marks, wherein he was amerced for trespasses in the king's chace of Bristol before Walter de Bello Campo and Roger de Mueles, appointed to hear and determine trespasses in that chace, and for the payment whereof he found as sureties Ralph de Sandwyco, Ralph de Gorges, Robert son of Payn and others. Mandate to the treasurer and barons of the Exchequer to acquit him accordingly.

[CPR EI] 25 March 1299. Pardon to Thomas de Berkeley of 75/ due from him to the Exchequer, for default, unjust detention, and non-appearance and for arrears of debts attermined at the said Exchequer.

[CCR EI] 18 July 1302. To Hugh le Despenser, justice of the Forest this side Trent. Order to cause Thomas de Berkele to have in the forest of Menedepe two harts, of the king's gift. To the constable of Bristol castle. Order to cause the said Thomas to have eight bucks in Bristol chace, of the king's gift.

[CPR EI] 3 November 1302. Acceptance of a sale, by letters which the king has inspected, by Thomas de Berkeleye, the elder, to Edmund de Mortuo Mari of the marriage of Thomas son and heir of Thomas son of Maurice de Hibernia, tenant in chief, a minor, or of the next heir, which the king heretofore granted to the said Thomas de Berkeleye.

[CPR EI] 5 July 1304. Letters and protection with clause volumus, for Thomas de Berkele, going to the court of Rome on the king's affairs, nominating Robert de Prestebiry and James de Wilton his attorneys for one year.

[CCR EI] 6 July 1304. Thomas de Berkeley, who is setting out for the Roman court for certain affairs of the king, has letters to the sheriff of Lincoln to respite his debts until Christmas.

posted by [Living O'Brien]
THOMAS II BERKLEY - PART II

The following entry has been left intact as it portrays both Thomas de Berkeley and his son, Maurice, were prone to acts of violence.

[CPR EI] 7 April 1305. Commission of oyer and terminer to -----------, on complaint that Thomas de Berkeleye and Maurice de Berkeleye, usurping the lee and lordship as well in the street of Radeclivestrete, in the town of Bristol, as in the water of Avene, came to the town of Bristol with a great multitude of horse and foot, and beat some men and burgesses of that street because they refused to do suit at the court of the said Thomas and Maurice which they claim to have in Radeclivestrete, or to answer in that court for divers excesses committed in that street, wounded some in their houses, dragged some out of their houses and threw them into a pit, beat their wives when they came to their aid and trampled them so that some of them died, wounded and maimed the king's bailiff of that town in the high road at Frompton on Severn because he defended the king's estate against them, and treated him so shamefully that he died shortly after. Also that the said Thomas and Maurice with others came to the fair of Tettebury, and some besieged the town while others entered it, and both within their houses and without beat those whom they knew to be burgesses of the said street and those who refused to declare before them that they were not king's men of that street, and by night took divers of the king's felons, as well approvers by whose appeals three men were convicted of felonies and hanged, as thieves who had been taken and imprisoned in the said street of Radeclivestrete, and led them to Sumerton and fraudulently caused them to be delivered by procured and suborned juries; entered certain ships in the said river at La Pulle of St. Catherine, within the bounds of the town of Bristol, awaiting a fair wind there, and carried away ropes, anchors, and sails and other fittings thereof under colour of a distraint for certain excesses and trespasses committed therein as though the lordship of that water belonged to them and not to the king.

The following entry details the punishment for the violence committed.

[CCR EI] 11 July 1306. Enrollment of deed of Thomas de Berkeley, knight, witnessing that whereas the king has pardoned him and Maurice, his son, and their men all the trespasses whereof they were lately indicted in county Gloucester before Sir John Botetourte and his fellows, the king's justices appointed to hear and determine divers felonies in divers counties, and for which Thomas offered to the king by his favour before his council 1,000 marks, which sum the king released to him, Thomas confesses that he will for the said release and pardon find the service of ten men-at-arms with barded horses by Thomas, his son, or by another suitable captain at his cost to the king in his company in the present expedition of his war in Scotland against Robert de Bruce and his accomplices, the king's enemies, from St. Laurence, in the thirty-fourth year of the king's reign, and from then until the king shall enter Scotland and for so long as he shall stay there in person. For the making of which service he binds him and his heirs and all his lands, goods and chattels to the king's will in all things.

[CPR EI] 27 June 1307. Protection with clause volumus, until All Saints, for Thomas de Berkeley going to the court of Rome on the king's service. The like to Maurice de Berkeley, John de Berkeley, William de Wauton and William le Gamage, going with him.

[CPR EII] 16 January 1308. Protection with clause volumus, until Easter, for Thomas de Berkele, Maurice de Berkele and John de Berkele, going beyond seas with the king.

In the latter part of his life, Thomas was appointed to numerous commissions of oyer and array, always named first of three or four justices.

[CFR EII] 14 January 1313. Commitment to Thomas de Berkeley of the manor of King Stanley to keep so long as it remain in the king's hand. By K. on the information of the earl of Pembroke. Order to the escheator on this side Trent to deliver the same to him.

[CIPM EII V6] 332. Thomas de Berkeley. Writ, 3 August, 15 Edward II. Maurice his son, aged 40 and more, is his next heir.

posted by [Living O'Brien]
If he is the same "Thomas de Berkeley" mentioned below, then he appears to be the grandfather of Maurice, 1st Earl of Desmond.

Researcher Niall C.E.J. O Brien writes in "Thomas an Apa Fitz Maurice of Desmond: Survival, restoration and missed opportunities":

  • "In the year 1284 Thomas FitzMaurice [FitzGerald] came to concentrate on marriage. In that year Thomas de Berkeley II purchased the right of marriage to FitzMaurice for his daughter Margaret ... Margaret's mother was Joan de Ferrers, a daughter of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby, by his second wife Margaret, daughter of Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester."
  • In February 1301, King Edward I granted to Thomas de Berkeley senior the marriage of [his grandson] Thomas, the son of [the recently deceased] Thomas FitzMaurice, who was under age and in the king's custody at the time. If young Thomas should die before marriage then Thomas de Berkeley was to have the marriage of each and subsequent heir until a successful marriage was made.
  • This arrangement may have sounded good but Thomas de Berkeley had grown tired of the Fitzgeralds. The remarriage of his daughter Margaret may have gained an appreciation in his mind that things could turn out bad. Sometime before November 1302, Thomas de Berkeley sold the right of marriage for the Fitzgerald heirs to Edmund de Mortimer. The right of marriage soon after returned to the crown as Edmund de Mortimer died in July 1304.
  • Thomas Fitz Thomas died sometime before 2 April 1309 and was succeeded by his 16-year-old brother, Maurice FitzThomas. Five years later, on 28 April 1314, Maurice FitzThomas gave fealty to Edward I and received his inheritance. In 1329 after a stormy first career Maurice became first Earl of Desmond and then began his second stormy career.
posted by Z Fanning
edited by Z Fanning
PS ... The daughter Margaret mentioned in the bio text above is currently linked to different parents. (She's actually showing as the daughter of her great-grandparents...)

It looks like we will need to create a new daughter Margaret -- born late 1260s -- and then get her married to Thomas FitzMaurice FitzGerald. I can do this but somebody (Robin?) give me a thumbs-up first if you're in agreement.

posted by Z Fanning
edited by Z Fanning
Based on an exchange of comments on Joan's profile (wife of Thomas de Berkeley), a profile for daughter Margaret is now created.

Also -- the 2 different Margarets (2 generations apart) are now connected to their correct father Thomas (2 generations apart).

posted by Z Fanning
edited by Z Fanning
Thanks, Robin. I've changed the DOB on the profile.
I believe that Thomas ws born in 1245. See:-

bastard son of King John of England. Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, Page: 88-4.

posted by Robin Wood C.Eng
Source: Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study In Colonial And Medieval Families, in 5 vols. (Salt Lake City, Utah, 2013). Vol., I, page 326-327.

Thomas De Berkeley, Knt., born about 1251. He married in 1267 Joan de Ferrers, daughter of William de Ferrers, Knt., by his 2nd wife, Margaret (or Margery), daughter of Roger de Quincy, Knt., They had four sons, Maurice, Knt., Thomas, Knt., John, and [Master] James [Bishop of Exeter], and two daughters, Margaret and Isabel [Prioress of Buckland Priory].

Thank you!

Liz, go ahead. Thanks.
Hi! I ran across this profile while checking the Maintenance Categories, but notes in his profile seem to indicate that he no longer needs to be in them. If no objection, I'll delete them (& the note that cleanup was done). Thanks!
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
According to Magna Carta Ancestries, Maurice's son Thomas was 3rd Lord Berkeley.
I'm working on the profile for "the Magnanimus" Maurice Berkeley who's shown in succession boxes on this profile. Could you share what source I should check to see who succeeded Maurice so that I can boxes on his profile? Thanks!
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Your list of children in the bio, is not the same as those in the paragraphs about the couple and does not agree with the children, in the data section. See the list below also.
posted by Anne B
Richardson's Plantagenet Ancestry (p 246) says that Thomas and Joan (Ferrers) Berkeley had 4 sons and 2 daughters: Maurice, Thomas, John, James, Margaret, and Isabel. (bio text citing FindAGrave leaves off son Thomas)
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Daughter Alice, birthdate is not logical.
posted by Anne B

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