Hugh  (Bigod) le Bigod

Hugh (Bigod) le Bigod (abt. 1185 - 1225)

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Sir Hugh (Hugh III) "5th Earl of Norfolk" le Bigod formerly Bigod
Born about in Suffolk, Englandmap
Husband of — married about (to about ) [location unknown]
Died in Thetford, Norfolk, Englandmap
30 March 2016
16:02: Liz (Noland) Shifflett added Magna Carta Project WikiTree as manager for profile of Hugh III (Bigod) le Bigod. [Thank Liz for this | 1 thank-you received]
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Categories: House of Bigod | Earls of Norfolk | Surety Barons | Bigod-2 Descendants.


Magna Carta Surety Baron
Hugh III le Bigod was one of the twenty-five medieval barons who were surety for Magna Carta in 1215.

Contents

Biography

Name, Titles, Lands

Hugh le Bigod

5th Earl of Norfolk
hereditary Steward of the Household
hereditary Warden of Romford Forest
son and heir. [1]

Birth and Parentage

"Hugh Bigod, 3rd Earl of Norfolk, the eldest son, was born before 1195. He was the hereditary steward of the king's household, and hereditary bearer of the Barons of St. Edmund. Not many particulars of this Baron's life have been preserved, as he enjoyed for only a few years the title of Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk, and his father's estates and honors, to which he had succeeded in the 5th year of King Henry III. [2]


Marriage

He married probably before Lent 1207 Maud Marshal. [1]

He married Maud Marshal, eldest daughter of William Marshal, 3rd Earl of Pembroke, and his wife, Isabel Clare, daughter of Richard de Clare, the Strongbow, 2nd Earl of Pembroke, and his wife, Eva, daughter of Dermot MacMurcha, King of Leinster, Ireland. She was also the sister of the Surety William Marshal & she married (2) William, Earl of Warren/Warrenne and Surrey" [3]

Magna Carta

In 1215, he and his father joined the confederacy of the barons against the king.[1]

Death

He died in February 1224-25. [2]

Issue

Douglas Richardson shows four sons and one daughter:[1]

  1. Roger, Knt, 6th Earl of Norfolk
  2. Hugh, III, Knt
  3. Ralph, Knt
  4. William (possibly)
  5. Isabel married Fitzgeoffrey

Some sources show an additional son Simon. Richardson [4] has termed such a connection "quite doubtful" and that a descent of Simon from a different branch of the Bigod family is more likely.

No documentation has been found regarding John, another purported son.

Gateway Ancestors

Descendants of Magna Carta surety barons who immigrated to the Americas are referred to as Gateway Ancestors. Douglas Richardson documents the ancestry of many who immigrated before 1700 in his Magna Carta Ancestry (#Richardson). WikiTree's Magna Carta project exists "to categorize and improve profiles of the twenty-five medieval barons who were surety for Magna Carta; about two hundred proven American colonial Gateway Ancestors who were their descendants; and the documented lineages that connect them." Using Richardson as its primary source, the project has identified most Magna Carta Gateway Ancestors with profiles in WikiTree (collected in the category Gateway Ancestors).
For profiles of descendants and Gateway Ancestors of Sir Hugh III le Bigod that have been improved and categorized by the Magna Carta project, see Bigod-1 Descendants (see this index for links to other surety barons and category pages for their descendants).

Sources

  • Royal Ancestry by Douglas Richardson, Vol. I page 364

Children of Hugh le Bigod, by Maud Marshal: They had four sons, Roger, Knt., [6th Earl of Norfolk], Hugh, Knt., Ralph, Knt., and possibly William, and one daughter, Isabel.

i. ROGER LE BIGOD, Knt, 6th Earl of Norfolk
ii. HUGH LE BIGOD, Knt.
iii. RALPH LE BIGOD, Knt., married BERTHA DE FERRERS
iv. RICHARD LE BIGOD, clerk.
v. ISABEL LE BIGOD, married (1st) GILBERT DE LACY, (2nd) JOHN FITZ GEOFFREY, Knt.

Children of

  • Royal Ancestry 2013 Vol. V p. 309
  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, 2013. Volume i, P. 364
  2. 2.0 2.1 http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id=I03423
  3. McBride2 citing Burke's p53, cited by Rootsweb.
  4. "Modern Bigod family sources...such as C. P. 10 (1945) 590, Paget, Baronage of England (1957) 65:1, and Morris, Bigod Earls of Norfolk in the 13th Century (2005) do not include a son, Simon, in the family of Earl Hugh le Bigod, earl of Norfolk. As such, the alleged connection to Earl Hugh le Bigod seems quite doubtful. Anstis has suggested, alternatively, that the Felbrigg family of Norfolk was probably descended from a cadet banch of Ralph le Bigod, the Domesday tenant [see Anstis, Reg of the Order of the Garter, 2 (1724): 169, which descent may well be more likely. Whatever the case, the matter deserves further study." Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry (2013), Volume II, pp. 552-553, footnote.

See also:

  • Magna Carta Ancestry 2011 2nd ed. Vol. I p. 200-202
  • Medieval Lands, database online, author Charles Cawley, (Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, 2006-2013), England, Earls of Norfolk, Link
  • Royal Ancestry D. Richardson 2013 Vol. I p. 364-366

Acknowledgements

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Hugh le Bigod coat of arms
Hugh le Bigod coat of arms


Collaboration

On March 11, 2016 at 05:16GMT John Schmeeckle wrote:

Thanks Doug; I corrected the coat of arms. By the way, a three-pointed label isn't always a mark of cadency; the Prideaux family (for example) bore their arms with a label for many centuries. Regarding fifth or third earl, I would favor uniformly describing him as the third earl.

On March 11, 2016 at 01:27GMT Doug Straiton wrote:

Hi. I noticed that the name field states 5th Earl while much of the bio refers to him as the 3rd Earl. This is a tricky issue; he was the 3rd Earl in the Second Creation of the Earldom. The first creation has expired and reverted to the Crown as extinct. We likely need to resolve this as policy; could one of the lead PM please drop a note to John Atkinson and myself.

The next point is that the coat of arms shown on this page indicate him as the son of the Earl. The blue bar with three points is a mark of cadency indicating the first son. These arms would have been him while his father was alive. His arms as Earl are without the mark. I can draw this if you wish and post it up.

On March 11, 2016 at 00:15GMT Darlene Athey Hill wrote:

I've detached Lorette; I don't know who attached him. I don't think his ancestry is known. I've never heard of Richard le Bigod...

On March 11, 2016 at 00:07GMT Anonymous Carroll wrote:

Royal Ancestry Vol. I on page 364. reads Hugh Le Bigod, and Maud Marshal had four sons, Roger, Hugh, Ralph, and possibly William, and one daughter, Isabel. Next, page 365-6 list children, Roger Le Bigod, Hugh Le Bigod, Ralph Le Bigod, Richard Le Bigod, and Isabel Le Bigod. In the text it reads 'and possibly William.
Is Richard one of the sons? Or, is this a slip in typing in Richard for the possible son William?

Thanks

On March 10, 2016 at 23:54GMT Anonymous Carroll wrote:

Lorette Pigot, is not listed as one of the children of Hugh Le Bigod, by Maud Marshal in Royal Ancestry Vol. I, page 364-5. Should she be disconnected?

Thanks

On August 27, 2015 at 16:05GMT Darlene Athey Hill wrote:

Jack, I agree. I've detached Simon & added a note to his bio to not reattach him without a G2G discussion with sources. Thanks.

On August 27, 2015 at 08:09GMT Jack Day wrote:

Darlene, Richardson (Royal Ancestry, (2013) II, 552-553, footnote) addresses this issue and says the connection is "quite doubtful" and that Simon's connection to a cadet branch of the Bigod family is more likely. I've added the full quote as a footnote on this profile. I put the same quote under a "Disputed Parentage" heading on Simon's page. I recommend that Simon be de-linked, retaining the explanation and cross-links in the narratives. What do you think?

On August 21, 2015 at 00:54GMT Darlene Athey Hill wrote:

Jack, p. 8 of The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna Charta, 1215 ..., by Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall names Simon as the third son of Hugh Bigod & Maud Marshal.

On August 20, 2015 at 23:43GMT Jack Day wrote:

Richardson reports five named children of Hugh le Bigod. It is important to the Magna Charta project that only documented descendents of Magna Carta sureties be shown. Two of those currently shown as children are not named. Does anyone have documentation that they are in fact children of Hugh?

On July 31, 2015 at 19:22GMT Katherine Patterson wrote:

Bigod-323 and Bigod-1 do not represent the same person because: wrong dates by 150 years!



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