Suthen (Bjornsdatter) Of Northumbria

Suthen (Bjornsdatter) Of Northumbria

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Sybilla (Suthen) "Sybil" Of Northumbria formerly Bjornsdatter
Born about in Northumbria, Englandmap
Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Died in Scotlandmap
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SUTHEN (NOTES) (L) BJORNSDATTER Sex: F Birth: ABT 1014 Name: SUTHEN (L) BJORNSDATTER Note: SOME SOURCES SAY SUTHEN WAS THE MOTHER OF DUNCAN (NOTES) MORMAER OF (L) MORAY AND OF MALCOLM III (NOTES) (1057-1093) (L) SCOTLAND

Father: BJORN BIORN ESTRI (NOTES) DENMARK (L) ULFUSSON b: BET 953 AND 1001

Marriage 1 DUNCAN I (NOTES) KING (1034-1040) (L) SCOTLAND b: BET 1001 AND 1013 in ANTHOLL, PERTHSHIRE, SCOTLAND

Contents

Biography

The Chronicle of John of Fordun records that Duncan's wife was "the cousin of Earl Siward".[1] The Foundation for Medieval Genealogy [2] states "This information is not included in any earlier source and should be considered dubious." The foundation also states, "In one earlier king list, King Malcolm III's mother is named "Suthen"".

Other, more recent, sources suggest Earl Siward and Sybilla may be siblings. Sybilla was the daughter of Bjorn Bearsson and the sister of Sigurd "Digera" Bjornsson, Earl of Northumbria The children of Sybilla and Duncan were Malcolm the Third, Donald the Third and Maelmuire. The sources for this information referenced by Catherine Evans are, Alan Anderson's EARLY SOURCES OF SCOTTISH HISTORY; AD 500-1286 and Alison Weir's BRITAIN'S ROYAL FAMILIES (revised edition).

Considering that Earl Siward is a Dane, we should assume that Sybilla is also of Danish heritage. As a result her last Name at Birth should end in 'datter'.

Name

Prefix: Queen
Name: Sibyl, Sybilla
Name: Suthen
Surname: Duncan
Surname: Suthen
Surname: Scotland
Surname: DeMormaer
Surname: Fitzsiward
Surname: Bjornsdatter
Suffix: [Queen of]
Wikipedia says her name was Suthen.

Birth

Birth
Date: ABT 1007
Place: Northumberland, England
Date: ABT 1009
Place: Scotland
Place: Atholl, Pertshire, , Scotland
Source: #S48

Death

Death:
Date: 1040
Place: Scotland
Source: #S48

Note

Scotland Crest
Hampshire Coat of Arms
SIBYL FITZSIWARD
Northumberland_Coat_of_Arms

Sources

  • Source: S-2100314565 Repository: #R4 Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Many References to Ancestry Family Treesw were included as support for information included in GEDCOMs.
  • Source S15 Title: OneWorldTree
Address: www.ancestry.com

Footnotes

  1. John of Fordun's, Chronicle of a Scottish Nation. Translated from the Latin text by Felix J. H. Skene. Edited by William F. Skene. Edinburgh. Edmonston and Douglas 1872. http://www.archive.org/stream/johnoffordunschr00fordrich#page/178/mode/2up481
  2. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20AngloSaxon%20nobility.htm#Sibylladied1040MDuncanIScotland

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On May 15, 2013 Wendy Hampton wrote:

brilliant summary Sheri, in some ways it makes life more difficult as a genealogist, but also simpler - and as Sybilla/Suthen could never have been Bjornsson, I have eliminated it as a aka


On May 15, 2013 Sheri Sturm wrote:

Old Norse naming traditions - Has a rule been set for this?

Since there were no separate countries like we have today in Scandanavia, the patrynomic systems which vary from Denmark to Finland could all be standardized in the old Norse way: -son for "son of" and -sdottir for daughter of (father's first name) - Nelsson, Nelsdottir.

This would streamline names. Since 1850 only Iceland still uses the feminine ending. All others are masculine and no longer change with generations. Another possibility is to default to father's first name without a gender ending so siblings can be matched more easily. (Nels and Nels) In any case, all old Norse names should begin with the father's first name, which means the names will change with each generation in ancient times.


On April 29, 2013 Wendy Hampton wrote:

I imagine that Sibyl is actually Biornsdotter - rather than son??


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