Richard Braswell was born about 1732 in North Carolina.[1][2][3] Richard Braswell is probably the son of Richard Braswell[4][5] His mother is unknown.
Richard Bracewell died about 16 Apr 1799/1800 .[3]
Marriage
Richard married Obedience (Snow?) in about 1755 in Orange County, North Carolina.[6] The children were born in Orange Co., North Carolina, and in Anson County, North Carolina.
Children
Elizabeth b.1757 married James Butler
Richard “BRAZIL” Jr. (1759-1842) m. Jemima WHITE, Anson Co., North Carolina, 15 May 1780. Died Saline Co., Arkansas.[3][7]
James (c. 1761-1799) m. Nancy MAXWELL in Wilkes Co., North Carolina c. 1783. Murdered by the HARPE brothers in Knox (Morgan) Co., Tennessee, 29 July 1799.[3]
Obedience (born bef. 1763) m. David HALL in Wilkes Co., North Carolina, 20 Jan. 1784. HALL’s Revolutionary War pension application sheds much light on the family’s whereabouts during the war and post-war period.[3]
Valentine (1765-1848) m. 2nd Mrs. Nancy JOURNEY, d. Rush Creek, JoDaviess Co., Illinois, 27 Nov. 1848.[3][8]
William BRASWELL (1766-1850s) m. 2nd Elizabeth ______ d. Carroll Co., Arkansas.[3]
John (c. 1769) m. Greenville District, South Carolina to Rebecca PRUITT c. 1790. (Many LDS researchers descend from him through their daughter Dianah BRASWELL SMITH, a SMITH family Bible confirms much of this data).[3][9]
Richard (c. 1707–after 1757) He is the father of Richard Bracewell c.1732 (and not born in 1723) husband of Obedience. Richard Bracewell's son John Braswell had dau. Diana Braswell who m. Richard Smith.
Henry (c. 1710–1783) had son Richard c. 1730 who m Joyce (Wooten?), Braswell, Cavenah, Drake.
RICHARD BRASSEL 100 acres 5 horses 13 head of cattle; DAVID HALL single; MILLA HALL
1784 Wilkes Co., North Carolina
Daughter Obedience (born bef. 1763) m. David HALL in Wilkes Co., North Carolina, 20 Jan. 1784. HALL’s Revolutionary War pension application sheds much light on the family’s whereabouts during the war and post-war period. [3]
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Valentine’s estate papers received from JoDaviess County, Illinois and tombstone in Elizabeth City Old Cemetery, Woodbine Twp, JoDaviess County, Illinois.
DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Richard by comparing test results with other carriers of his Y-chromosome or his mother's mitochondrial DNA.
However, there are no known yDNA or mtDNA test-takers in his direct paternal or maternal line.
It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Richard:
After examining the changes log it appears that the citation naming a source as ref name=BrasGen was inadvertently deleted in an edit at 11:12, 28 September 2020. It appears from the change log the source referenced throughout the profile as BrasGen is for the link to the following source: BRASWELL GENEALOGY, BRASWELL / BRACEWELL FAMILY HISTORY AND GENEALOGY RESEARCH, MONDAY, OCTOBER 1, 2007, Research of Carey Bracewell, From Braswell Branches, Vol. 6, No. 2, Spring 1997.
I have added ref name=BrasGen back in front of the citation.
The source you have added, page 58 The Ancestry of David Bracewell: Including the Allied Southern Families of ... By Carey Bracewel contains contradictory dates of birth for Richard Braswell and Valentine Braswell. Compare the chart dates to the dates listed in the body of the book. in the chart presented Richard Brasewell (Elder) date of birth is 1710, in the body of the book the date is 1707. In the chart Valentine Braswell's date of birth is 1680, yet in the body of the book it is 1685. Where are the original sources to support the dates ?
The above source also seems to contradict the dates for Richard Braswell (1723-1799) and Valentine Braswell (1692-1766) which are found in the sources, BRASWELL GENEALOGY, BRASWELL / BRACEWELL FAMILY HISTORY AND GENEALOGY RESEARCH, MONDAY, OCTOBER 1, 2007, Research of Carey Bracewell, From Braswell Branches, Vol. 6, No. 2, Spring 1997 and in A family Bible for Richard (c. 1724-1800) & Obedience SNOW BRACEWELL. A microfilmed copy is in the LDS Archives in Salt Lake City. Cite "GRE Smith Bible" This source does not agree with the book source listed above and in the references on this profile.
Which source has the correct information for this profile ? And how did we determine which source is correct for this profile ?
Richard Braswell 1732-1796, husband of Obedience who died in 1804, is the son of Richard Braswell (about 1707-after 1757)
The table of Contents of this book gives the lineage of these profiles.
Printed in 2011, this book is UPDATED and contains all the answers just by looking at the table of contents: The Ancestry of David Bracewell, Including the Allied Southern Families of Braswell, Brazil, Bay, Price, Passmore, Gage, Prillaman, and Allen – Carey Bracewell
Sorry, Karen, a table of contents is insufficient proof for any profile, much less a pre-1700 profile. We need to understand what the guts of the book cite for the claimed relationships.
Karen, you have added some comments like "This is not correct!" Can you please provide more information. What is incorrect? And what is correct? And what are the sources for the correct information?
A birth date of 1739 does not add up for Richard. What is the Source/evidence that supports this date ? Obedience was born in 1732 ? Richard and Obedience were married in 1745 ? Richard would have been 6 years old and Obedience would have been 13 years of age ? It isn't hard to see that can't be right. With their first child George b 1750, his father Richard would have been the ripe young age of 11? These dates are not possible. The original date of birth (1723) made more sense. Why was it changed ? Either the dates or the children (or both) are not correct.
I am not questioning the lineage presented in your YDna chart...I do not want to get into that. The simple fact is that YDna can only "prove" relationships between individuals that have tested. All other relationships are presumptive and are only as accurate as the paper trail. If YDna can be used to prove that Richard was married at age 6 then YDna truly is the miracle source some think it is. Why bother with any other sources if all you need is a Dna test result ? The fact is that Dna has it's limitations, especially with atDna in the case of deep ancestry.
As I said, I am not questioning the relationships presented in your chart, but I am questioning the data in this profile. I get the feeling that we are trying to turn a Richard Braswell born in 1723 into a Richard Braswell that was born in 1739, Why are we doing this ? Loos to me that we are simply changing the data to make it fit a YDna chart ? The problem is that it just doesn't fit. I am not even certain that the Richard Braswell b 1723 d 1772 married Obedience but it is clear that the dates as we have them now can not be correct. What we need to be doing is working with the original data and seeing if there are sources that support or refute that data instead of simply changing the data to make it fit. So the question is, if Richard Braswell 1723-1772 is actually Richard Braswell 1739-1799 how did we determine that ? Where is the proof ? Before we change the data to make it fit we need to find out who Richard Braswell 1723-1772 is. Is the spouse correct ? Are the children correct. We are not just going to do away with the Richard b 1723 by changing the dates.
1752 Orange County formed from Bladen, Granville and Johnston Counties.
1755 Tax List for Orange County, North Carolina: Richard Braswell (1710-1757+) 1 son, 1 slave; skip 9 names then Moses Ginn. (Moses Ginn married Mrs. Mary Braswell, widow of Wm Braswell d. 1721 Chowan NC)
1769 - By this year Richard & Obedience BRASWELL along with their intact congregation of Baptists, had left Orange Co., North Carolina and resettled as a group in the Little River area of Anson Co., North Carolina.
1772 - January 25, RICHARD BRASWELL of Anson County, North Carolina, sold CHRISTOPHER CHRISTIAN for 35 pounds the 200 acres on the Little River granted to RICHARD BRASWELL by patent dated November 25, 1771. signed by RICHARD BRASSWELL and OBEDIENCE BRASWELL (her X). Witnesses were GOING MORGAN and GEORGE BRASSWELL (copy of Deed from Carey Bracewell).
1773 - September 17, ROBERT BRASWELL, son of RICHARD and OBEDIENCE BRASWELL born. (Isabelle Brazle Steele’s Bible from Larry Steele)
1784 - January 20 - OBEDIENCE BRASWELL (daughter of RICHARD and OBEDIENCE BRASWELL) married DAVID HALL in Wilkes County, North Carolina (copy of David Hall’s Revolutionary War pension file)
1785 - 1785 Tax Roll for Wilkes County, North Carolina lists RICHARD BRASSELL 100 acres 1 poll VOLUNTINE BRASSELL 0 acres 1 poll RICHARD BRASSELL (Jr.) 50 acres 1 poll (William Lenoir Family Papers at the University of North Carolina Library, Chapel Hill, N.C., as copied by Mike Barr)
The two Richard BRASWELLs shown on the 1790 Greenville District, South Carolina census were father and son. The evidence for Obedience’s maiden name as SNOW is extremely tenuous: my aunt Laura BRAZIL (1869-1953) told me that the two maiden names of the wives of the above Richard BRASWELLs were “SNOW, WHITE.”
The latter has been confirmed by legal evidence: Richard BRAZIL (1759-1842) did indeed marry Jemima WHITE, Ulster immigrant in Anson Co., North Carolina, 15 May 1780 (Richard’s Bible record).
Richard Brasel moved from Greenville, South Carolina to Knox County, Tennessee after he was approximately 60 years old.
Several of his grown children, including James and Robert, also sold their property in South Carolina and came to East Tennessee at about the same time, which was in the 1790’s. James bought 50 acres on Grassy Creek in Knox County, Tennessee in 1795. Prior to his coming to Tennessee he had married Nancy Hall and several of their children had been born in South Carolina. Nancy was a sister of David and Samuel Hall, two of the earliest settlers of Morgan County.[2]
In 1800 Richard (c. 1739-1799) dies at the family settlement near Clinton, on Clinch River (Anderson Co., Tennessee).
1805 - October 28, OBEDIENCE BRASWELL, wife of RICHARD BRASWELL, died. Location unknown. (Isabelle Brazle Steele’s Bible from Larry Steele)
Children
Twelve or thirteen children are attributed to them, the first 7 born in Orange Co., North Carolina, [which means by 1769 c. ] the remainder in Anson County, North Carolina.
1. Frederick (c. 1752-1828) m. Elizabeth _____ (in Wilkes Co., North Carolina 1781-82). Died Jackson Co., Georgia, 1828.
2. Elizabeth (c. 1757) m. James BUTLER, Anson Co., North Carolina c. 1775, d. Tennessee.
3. Richard “BRAZIL” Jr. (1759-1842) m. Jemima WHITE, Anson Co., North Carolina, 15 May 1780. Died Saline Co., Arkansas. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Brazil-13
4. James (c. 1761-1799) m. Nancy Maxwell or Hall in Wilkes Co., North Carolina c. 1783. Murdered by the HARPE brothers in Knox (Morgan) Co., Tennessee, 29 July 1799.
5. Valentine (1765-1848) m. 2nd Mrs. Nancy Journey, d. Rush Creek, Daviess Co., Illinois, 27 Nov. 1848.
6. William BRASWELL (1766-1850s) m. 2nd Elizabeth ______ d. Carroll Co., Arkansas.
7. George (c. 1772 )
8. Robert (1773-1825), d. Madison Co., Illinois, 17 May 1825 m Isabelle Lester d 1823
9. John (c. 1770s) b. Anson, NC m. Greenville District, South Carolina to Rebecca PRUITT c. 1790. (Many LDS researchers descend from him through their daughter Dianah BRASWELL SMITH, a SMITH family Bible confirms much of this data).
10. Sarah (c. 1770s) m Thomas Ussery
11. Patience (c. 1770s) m. Joseph GRAYSON in Knox (Anderson) Co., Tennessee, 10 Dec. 1798.
12. Obedience (born nearer the front of this list) m. David HALL in Wilkes Co., North Carolina, 20 Jan. 1784. HALL’s Revolutionary War pension application sheds much light on the family’s whereabouts during the war and post-war period.
13. Nancy ?
Sources
1. ↑ A family Bible for Richard (c. 1739-1800) & Obedience SNOW BRACEWELL. A microfilmed copy is in the LDS Archives in Salt Lake City. Cite "GRE Smith Bible"
2. ↑ The Knoxville Gazette, August 7, 1799; Life As It Is, J.W.M. Breazeale, Knoxville, TN 1842; The Morgan County News, Nosy, But It Is News, Wartburg, TN 1937; The Wilderness Road, Robert L. Kincaid, New York, 1947; The Stonecipher Tree, Mary H. Underwood, Knoxville, 1984.
• Research of Carey Braswell on Braswell Genealogy
• Richard Bracewell, Gentleman and His Descendents, of Kit and Kin of the South
Thanks for all the outstanding research that you have contributed to this Braswell profile. Now we need to incorporate your findings into the biography along with the sources you have.
On the surface we might be tempted to think that this profile Bracewell-360 and Braswell-1078 are duplicates because the spouse and children are the same however, the date of birth, birth place, date of death and death place are totally different. That leads me to wonder if Bracewell-360 was not the Richard Bracewell (Braswell) that married Obedience (Snow). It would be easy (but not recommended) to change the dates and places in this profile so that they agree with those of Braswell-1078 and simply merge the two but that should not be done without attempting to determine whether this profile Bracewell-360 is a different person. The data and documentation in the profile of Richard Braswell-1078 does appear to be supported by the sources. Now we need to determine if there are sources that support the profile of Richard Bracewell-360 (1723-1772)
360 and 1078 are not duplicates. 360 has children attached (above biography) - Obedience Braswell m David Hall, Valentine Braswell 1765-1848 and William Braswell who belong to Richard Braswell 1739-1799 & Obedience d. 1805. Richard Braswell 1739-1799 is the brother of George and these two are the sons of Richard Braswell (info unknown) who is in turn the son of Valentine Braswell 1682-1761+ Jane Pope.
Bracewell-360 Richard Braswell ll (b abt 1724- d abt 1772) does not appear to be the same person as Braswell-1078 Richard William Braswell (b abt 1739 - d aft 1779]. for the following reasons:
1 Different DOB and DOD
2. Different place of birth
3. Different place of death
4. Different parents
However, there does appear to be some conflation between the two profiles as follows:
5. The spouses are documented as being Obedience Snow in both profiles
6. Because the spouses are indicated in both profiles (in the bio) as being Obedience Snow the children listed are the same in the bio documentation. It looks as if the list of children was copied from the same source as the wording and order are exactly the same in each profile.
Before a merge of Bracewell-360 Richard Braswell ll (b abt 1724- d abt 1772) and Braswell-1078 Richard William Braswell (b abt 1739 - d aft 1779] is completed, existing sources should be reviewed and validated to determine if these two profiles represent the same or different RIchard Braswells. Additional sources should be sought if needed. There are two many differences between the two profiles to make an assumption that the two profiles represent the same person. The only thing in common appears to be the spouse and children which do not appear to be validated by reliable sources.
After the issues are resolved then it can be determined if the merge should proceed or which profile should be retained and which relationships should be separated or changed.
2. Different birth place, one is in VA, the other in NC
3. Different place of death
4. Different spouse
5. Different children
However, the same parents are attached. I suspect that Bracewell-360 may be attached to the wrong parents but that would need to be validated prior to taking any action. I do not think that the two profiles represent the same person which means they should not be merged. But it may be that Bracewell-360 has the wrong parents attached ?
On behalf of the Southern Colonies Project (SoCol) and the SoCol Project 1701-1776 Project Mangaged Profile Team I have adopted this profile and will be reviewing it in light of the recent comments and suggested corrections. To support the suggested corrections please post any additional comments or sources here for review. Please be patient as the review process and resolution may take some time, Once the issues have been resolved PPP will be removed so that corrections can be made.
This profile this page, Bracewell-360 has mostly all information equal to Richard William Braswell-1078 and should be removed from here as a son.
That leaves the correct son as Bracewell-107, who is already there. Don't have to do anything.
All corrections need to be made, and Braswell-1078 son of Richard and Joyce, should end up merged into Bracewell-360 keeping parents as Richard and Joyce.
Braswell-628 and Braswell-646 do not represent the same person because: Richard Braswell m. Obedience is not the same that married Joyce and not of the Valentine line.
Braswell-259 and Braswell-646 do not represent the same person because: Both profiles look like duplicates of Bracewell-360 (correct LNAB is Bracewell)
I have added ref name=BrasGen back in front of the citation.
The above source also seems to contradict the dates for Richard Braswell (1723-1799) and Valentine Braswell (1692-1766) which are found in the sources, BRASWELL GENEALOGY, BRASWELL / BRACEWELL FAMILY HISTORY AND GENEALOGY RESEARCH, MONDAY, OCTOBER 1, 2007, Research of Carey Bracewell, From Braswell Branches, Vol. 6, No. 2, Spring 1997 and in A family Bible for Richard (c. 1724-1800) & Obedience SNOW BRACEWELL. A microfilmed copy is in the LDS Archives in Salt Lake City. Cite "GRE Smith Bible" This source does not agree with the book source listed above and in the references on this profile.
Which source has the correct information for this profile ? And how did we determine which source is correct for this profile ?
https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=ZJ9R4rDLEVkC&hl=it&pg=GBS.PA57.w.1.3.55
Richard Braswell (about 1707-after 1757) https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Braswell-1571 is the son of Valentine Braswell:
https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=ZJ9R4rDLEVkC&hl=it&pg=GBS.PA52
Richard Braswell 1732-1796, husband of Obedience who died in 1804, is the son of Richard Braswell (about 1707-after 1757)
The table of Contents of this book gives the lineage of these profiles. Printed in 2011, this book is UPDATED and contains all the answers just by looking at the table of contents: The Ancestry of David Bracewell, Including the Allied Southern Families of Braswell, Brazil, Bay, Price, Passmore, Gage, Prillaman, and Allen – Carey Bracewell
https://books.google.it/books?id=ZJ9R4rDLEVkC&pg=PR3&lpg=PR3&dq=The+Ancestry+of+David+Bracewell,+Including+the+Allied+Southern+Families+of+Braswell,+Brazil,+Bay,+Price,+Passmore,+Gage,+Prillaman,+and+Allen+%E2%80%93+Carey+Bracewell&source=bl&ots=7ROig6BTbi&sig=ACfU3U33HsudU27XNlb7J3dlT2kmNltVcA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjuhvDk-MDsAhWSCuwKHe2WDq4Q6AEwCHoECAoQAg#v=onepage&q=The%20Ancestry%20of%20David%20Bracewell%2C%20Including%20the%20Allied%20Southern%20Families%20of%20Braswell%2C%20Brazil%2C%20Bay%2C%20Price%2C%20Passmore%2C%20Gage%2C%20Prillaman%2C%20and%20Allen%20%E2%80%93%20Carey%20Bracewell&f=false
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He worked on the Braswell line for over 17 years with a team. I don't know what to say.
Can someone please remove: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bracewell-173 as son of https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bracewell-360 and https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Snow-661 - he is not their son – see Bracewell-173 – his profile.
http://braswell-bracewell.blogspot.com/2010_09_01_archive.html
edited by Karen Brubaker
I am not questioning the lineage presented in your YDna chart...I do not want to get into that. The simple fact is that YDna can only "prove" relationships between individuals that have tested. All other relationships are presumptive and are only as accurate as the paper trail. If YDna can be used to prove that Richard was married at age 6 then YDna truly is the miracle source some think it is. Why bother with any other sources if all you need is a Dna test result ? The fact is that Dna has it's limitations, especially with atDna in the case of deep ancestry.
As I said, I am not questioning the relationships presented in your chart, but I am questioning the data in this profile. I get the feeling that we are trying to turn a Richard Braswell born in 1723 into a Richard Braswell that was born in 1739, Why are we doing this ? Loos to me that we are simply changing the data to make it fit a YDna chart ? The problem is that it just doesn't fit. I am not even certain that the Richard Braswell b 1723 d 1772 married Obedience but it is clear that the dates as we have them now can not be correct. What we need to be doing is working with the original data and seeing if there are sources that support or refute that data instead of simply changing the data to make it fit. So the question is, if Richard Braswell 1723-1772 is actually Richard Braswell 1739-1799 how did we determine that ? Where is the proof ? Before we change the data to make it fit we need to find out who Richard Braswell 1723-1772 is. Is the spouse correct ? Are the children correct. We are not just going to do away with the Richard b 1723 by changing the dates.
http://braswell-bracewell.blogspot.com/2010/09/living-brasel.html
edited by Karen Brubaker
Children
edited by Karen Brubaker
Thanks for all the outstanding research that you have contributed to this Braswell profile. Now we need to incorporate your findings into the biography along with the sources you have.
http://braswell-bracewell.blogspot.com/2010_09_01_archive.html
edited by Karen Brubaker
http://braswellgenealogy.blogspot.com/2009/05/richard-obedience-braswell.html
Richard Bracewell 1766 Laurens County, Georgia - 1817 Georgia https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bracewell-173 is the son of https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Braswell-1173 Sampson Braswell d. Laurens GA + Miss Moore.
Valentine Braswell 1682-1761 is the son of Richard Braswell I 1652-1725 https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bracewell-109. Reference Braswell Genealogy https://sites.google.com/site/braswellgenealogy/0000---descendant-outline
edited by Karen Brubaker
edited by Karen Brubaker
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However, there does appear to be some conflation between the two profiles as follows:
Before a merge of Bracewell-360 Richard Braswell ll (b abt 1724- d abt 1772) and Braswell-1078 Richard William Braswell (b abt 1739 - d aft 1779] is completed, existing sources should be reviewed and validated to determine if these two profiles represent the same or different RIchard Braswells. Additional sources should be sought if needed. There are two many differences between the two profiles to make an assumption that the two profiles represent the same person. The only thing in common appears to be the spouse and children which do not appear to be validated by reliable sources.
After the issues are resolved then it can be determined if the merge should proceed or which profile should be retained and which relationships should be separated or changed.
edited by David Douglass
edited by Karen Brubaker
However, the same parents are attached. I suspect that Bracewell-360 may be attached to the wrong parents but that would need to be validated prior to taking any action. I do not think that the two profiles represent the same person which means they should not be merged. But it may be that Bracewell-360 has the wrong parents attached ?
edited by David Douglass
Thank you,
http://braswell-bracewell.blogspot.com/2010_09_01_archive.html
edited by Karen Brubaker
I’ll take a look and see. I haven’t worked on my Bracewell line for a while. I’ll review it/work on it this evening and let you know.
Gale
That leaves the correct son as Bracewell-107, who is already there. Don't have to do anything.
All corrections need to be made, and Braswell-1078 son of Richard and Joyce, should end up merged into Bracewell-360 keeping parents as Richard and Joyce.
Otherwise can you please change the privacy settings on this profile so that it is OPEN & data doctors can correct the errors ?
The Weekly Errors Report keeps showing errors for this family. Thank you.