Sir
Robert
Bruce IInd of Clackmannan
formerly Bruce
Born about in Clackmannan, Clackmannanshire, Scotland
Ancestors 
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of
Isabel (Stewart) Bruce
— married
1370 in Scotland
Descendants 
Father of
Helen (Bruce) Ross, Robert (Bruce) Bruce IIIrd of Clackmannan and Edward (Bruce) Bruce of Airth and Stenhouse
Died about
at about age 46
in Scotland
Profile last modified
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The Birth Date is a rough estimate. See the text for details.
| Preceded by Thomas (Bruce) Bruce Ist of Clackmannan (abt.1318-bef.1348) |
2nd of Clackmannan bef. 1348 - 1389 |
Succeeded by Robert (Bruce) Bruce IIIrd of Clackmannan (abt.1371-1405) |
Biography
Robert (Bruce) Bruce IInd of Clackmannan is Notable.
Robert (Bruce) Bruce IInd of Clackmannan is a member of House of Bruce.
Robert Bruce was the son of Thomas Bruce, 1st of Clackmannan, and Marjory Charteris[1][2] born before 1348 at Clackmannanshire, Scotland.
He married Isabelx, daughter of Sir Robert Stewart of Durisdeer and Innermeath.[2][3] They had issue:
- Sir Robert Bruce, 3rd of Clackmannan[2][3]
- Thomas, of Wester Kennet.[2]
- Edward Bruce,[2] Ancestor of Bruce of Airth. named as Alexander, of the next generation in Scots Peerage.[4]
- Helen De Bruce[2]
Son of Robert 3rd of Clackmannan #James, Bishop of Dunkeld, Chancellor of Scotland.[3]
Robert Bruce, 2nd of Clackmannan died about 1389, when his son succeeded to Clackmannan.[3]
Research Notes
- King David II (Bruce) calls Robert, "dilectus consanguineus noster" which translates to "our beloved kinsman". Consiguinous noster translates to our blood, or our cousin. Dilectus equals dear.
- King Robert II Stewart also calls him consiguinous.
- SP claims that he was born before 1348 but still a minor in 1360 placing his birth after 1338 with an approximate birth of 1343 +/- 5 years.
- Property: 1359: charters of Clackmannan (Gartlet) and Rate.[5]
Sources
- ↑ Paul, James Balfour. "The Scots Peerage : founded on Wood's ed. of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom", Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1906, Vol. III, Archive.org, p. 467
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 MacGregor, Gordon, "The Red Book of Scotland", Scotland, private, 2022, Ed. 3, Vol. II, p. 85
- ↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 Paul, James Balfour. "The Scots Peerage : founded on Wood's ed. of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom", Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1906, Vol. III, Archive.org, p. 468
- ↑ Paul, James Balfour. "The Scots Peerage : founded on Wood's ed. of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom", Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1906, Vol. III, Archive.org, p. 469
- ↑ Received Land at Rait in 1367; Received land from cousin, King David II 09 DEC 1359
See also:
- Wikipedia: Robert Bruce, 2nd Baron of Clackmannan
- Wikidata: Item Q7342431, en:Wikipedia
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Family Tree DNA Y-DNA Test 37 markers, haplogroup R-M269, FTDNA kit #IN84933, MitoYDNA ID T12913 [compare] - Michael Bruce :
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This is the question. The Broase's are claiming to be Bruce/Bruis.? I would appreciate it if the Scotland Project could look into this issue, urgently. The issue is that my dna does not match there dna!
edited by Philip Bruce
If they meant to I don't know, Between Sir Robert Bruce d. 1393 and Sir David Bruce b. 1387 according to the Chambers Encyclopedia, David is very young and the profiles in between these two profiles are caretakers and are not the paternal line.
edited by Philip Bruce
This is very odd, there is a whole section here with no profile managers! Can someone please explain what is going on here!
There can be several reasons why profiles are orphaned, and it's not uncommon to see. The most common reason would be the lack of Pre-1500 certification.
Would suggest removing Bruce- 390, Bruce 391, Scrimgeour-4 as there is no mention of them in the Chambers encyclopedia, Blair writes. Reference: The Baronage of Scotland, containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Gentry of the Kingdom. Author: Sir Robert Douglas of Glenbervie. Date published- Jan 1798.
This needs to be fixed, thank you.
Mike