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Eleanor G. (Bryant) Owens (aft. 1675 - abt. 1756)

Eleanor G. (Elinor) Owens formerly Bryant aka Gallop
Born after in King George, Virginiamap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married 1694 in Virginiamap
Wife of — married before 1726 in Richmond, Virginiamap
Descendants descendants
Died about before about age 81 in Brunswick Parish, King George, Virginiamap
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Disputed Origins

A previous version of this profile claimed that Elinor Bryant was daughter of Silent Bryant by his apparent first wife who is traditionally known as Lucy Doniphan, citing a 21st century article conveying one person's theory, unsupported by references.[1] This same source claimed that when Elinor's mother died, her father Silent moved away with his second wife (Grace?).

There is no record to suggest a familial relationship between Silent Bryant and Eleanor Gollop Owens. She was probably born about 1675. Based on her children’s ages, Eleanor married Robert Gollop about 1693-95, but no marriage record or maiden name has been found. Robert died in 1720. Elinor was alive (and married to John Owen) in 1735 when she released her dower rights in part of his estate. [2] While all these people were neighbors, there is no evidence that they were blood-related.

  • Added 3/29/2022:

John I. Owens II then married (m2) Eleanor ‘Elinor’ G. Bryant [sic; no documentation of maiden name] Gallop (1680-1756), the widow of Capt. Robert Gallop (d.1720), and daughter of Richard Silas Bryant (not ‘Silent’ Bryant) and Lucy Donovan, c.1730, in Richmond County, Virginia. [citation needed]

Biography

Nothing is known of Elinor's birth, maiden name, nor parents. Elinor married first Capt. Robert Gallop, who died in 1720, leaving her with four daughters, Mary (who was already married), Anne, Phyllis, and Elinor. On May 23, 1720,"Henry Gallop age 67 and Richard Elkins age 51 and Wiliam Brown age 56, at the request of Eleanor Gallop, widow and relict of Robert Gallop, deceased, came personally before me and made oath that on Friday last, the 20th instant, they heard Robert Gallop declare as his last will that his two daughters by name Eleanor and [Phyllis], should have all his land at Deep Run in this county to be equally divided to the .......... and soon after on the same day, departed this life and further saith not ....." Robert Gallop's oral will was proved 7 Dec. 1720. [3]

Elinor married secondly by 1726 John Owens, a widower with a son named Samuel [4] That they were married by 1726 is demonstrated in the will of Henry Gallop, brother of Elinor's first husband. He left his entire estate to the four Gallop daughters, whom he called "cuzens."

I Henry Gollop .... Imprimis: 1 give and bequeath to my couzen Mary Elkens the plantation where I now live and the land belonging to it, to her and the heirs of her body forever and one Negro called Cili and one heifer to her daughter Elizabeth.
Item: I give and bequeath to my cuzen Anne Gollop one plantation at the Deep Run and the land belonging to it to her and her heirs lawfully begotten forever, and one Negro called Nan and one feather bed and furniture.
Item: I give to Phillis Gollop one Negro called Tom and one feather bed and furniture.
Item: I give to my cuzen Elenor Gollop twenty pounds Sterling which I have now by me and please God that I rase more money before I die, I desire she may have it. And further my desire is that all my personal estate not mentioned in my Will after funeral charges and lawful debts [are] paid should be equally divded between my four cuzens and I do hereby appoint and ordain John Owens and Elenor Owens his now wife my sole and lawfull Executors.
As Witness my hand and Seale
His Henry [H] Gollop *Seale*
Witnesses Richard Owens William [M] Owen [5]

Sources

  1. Bill Deyo, Patawomack Tides 2013]; NOTE: link is now broken and no evidence that this file remains on the tribe's web site.
  2. "At a court held 4th June 1736 .. Deed recorded .. sd Elinor being solely examined .. " Presence Robert x Duncom, John x Owens Henry x Foley, John x Fletcher Elinor (sic) x Owens.. sd Elinor being solely examined .." King George County Deed Book 2 (abstracted by Antient Press, McLean, VA.) pp. 37-41
  3. Wills of Richmond Co., VA 1699-1800, Will Book 4, p. 141.
  4. To all People .. I John Owens of parish Brunswick in county King George send greeting. Know Ye that in consideration of the natural love and affection I bear unto my well beloved son Samuel Owens and for his advancement in the world... . King George County Deed Book 4 (abstracted by Antient Press, McLean, VA); pp. 102-103
  5. King George County, Virginia, Will Book A 1721-1752, abstracted by George Harrison Sanford King, Pages 63-64

See also:

  • 1735, John Owens in the Virginia, Marriages of the Northern Neck of Virginia, 1649-1800
  • Early Colonial Settlers of Southern Maryland and Virginia's Northern Neck Counties, see Robert Gallop, w. Elinor MNU Gallop




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Re: Sources:

Is anyone proofing these citations? Read the citation and then check the link. I'm familiar with her work and I've read through this linked page several times. I see no mention of William or Bill Deyo's name or his work anywhere in this linked reference. '...The mess of William Deyo???' Seriously? Whoever wrote that should be ashamed of themselves. You don't have to agree with or even like Bill or his work, but disrespectful commentary like that should have no place here.

"Indian Reservations / Exploring Indian Lore and the Mess of William Deyo, https://www.indianreservations.net/2016/04/keziah-arroyah-fire-woman-warrior-and.html

posted by Paul Phillips
Thanks for updating the citation. I can only assume that at some point in time the linked article included that phrase, but that it's subsequently been edited.
posted by Jillaine Smith
That is possible. I hadn't considered that Roberts could have edited her website article sometime later.
posted by Paul Phillips
I don't have records or references handy, but my understanding/recollection is that Silent Bryant's property came to be in possession of Elinor's children when she passed. ie: Elinor was Silent's daughter.

The further back you go, the more incomplete the records become for ordinary people. Common sense has to factor in at some point when specific records either don't exist or where relationships aren't spelled out. There needs to be a 'best research indicates' (BRI) option for cases like this where records are missing. In this case because Union troops ransacked Fredericksburg if I remember right. Not to replace a properly documented paper trail, which is ideal and preferred, but as a next best option when research identifies the likely relationship in the absence of a clear paper trail.

posted by Paul Phillips
Scroll down in the comments here, Paul, for a 2022 post from Karen Jones. Is that what you're thinking of?
posted by Jillaine Smith
No, I saw that. It could be included or related, but my recollection was a rather lengthy examination of properties and transfers over several generations that I couldn't hope to cite from memory.

I'm pretty sure it's based on Deyo's work, but can't be certain of that even until I can get access to my file cabinets again. (We're currently snowbirding in the southwest.)

posted by Paul Phillips
Bryant-19788 and Bryant-76 appear to represent the same person because: Clearly meant to be the same woman
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
I have completed this merge, I did not include the parents due to the issues with disputed origins....also, there is a lot of duplicated information that needs to be cleaned up.
posted by Robin Lee
1735 KING GEORGE COUNTY DEEDS: At a County Court, Deed of Lease and Release Recorded, 6 Feb. 1735 for Indenture between James Brissee, #2?, wife Elinor, Richard Elkins and Mary, his wife and Robert Duncom and Ann, his wife, daughters and Coheirs of Robert Gollop decd. of one part and by George James of the other part by deed of lease and release.....land granted unto Bryan Foley and Robert Gollop, Father of Elinor, Mary and Ann,...24 Feb. 1714/15. Note: Husband of Elinor, 1727 was John I Owen.
posted by Karen Jones
I found documentation possibly. I hope it helps.http://www.multiwords.de/genealogy/Ja10KeziahArroyah.html
posted by Karen Jones
Karen, I find it very difficult to read that layout; can you extract the specific, reliably-sourced elements that add to what's already here on the profile? Much appreciated.
posted by Jillaine Smith
Also worth noting that there is no record which supports the existence of “Lucy Doniphan.” The first Doniphan in the area was a man named Alexander Doniphan who arrived in America about 1670.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Reid, it looks from the evidence presented here, that there is no proof that she was daughter of Silent Bryant and his [unproven] wife Lucy Doniphant. And that her maiden name is not known. How do you feel about detaching her from said parents and changing her maiden name to Unknown?
posted by Jillaine Smith
Elinor should be detached from her supposed parents and her LNAB changed to Unknown. The first record of her existence seems to be at the time of her husband's death.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
If Eleanor's father was born in 1650, how then can she be born in 1660?
See this 2016 g2g post that (among other things) casts doubt on the research of William Deyo. And note that the website of the tribe for which he was former historian has pulled his article from the site. If anyone can find that article it would be helpful as other information about Deyo’s work that is found online cites few If any sources.
posted by Jillaine Smith
I realize that this is an older post, but your defamatory commentary about Bill Deyo is insulting and getting pretty old.

He's a good man and an excellent researcher and doesn't deserve your ill informed character assassination by subtle inference with comments like 'casts doubt', 'pulled from the website' and other similar comments I've seen from you about Bill.

I have all of his books and he gives plenty of citations. He's also quite a skilled and experienced researcher/genealogist with a CV that is probably dwarfs yours. Ref: https://billdeyo.com/about-bill-1

As far as your commentary goes: Did you mention that the Patawomeck tribe is rebuilding their website? No, you didn't. Did you mention that the Patawomeck tribe still shows Bill as their 'Historian Emeritus' on their new website? Again, no you didn't. Ref: https://www.patawomeckindiantribeofvirginia.org/about-the-tribe

Bill writes books and charges for his work, just as others I've seen who you quote. He doesn't put all of his work online for free. So what? It's reasonable to expect to pay for quality research and Bill does so too, so what are your really inferring there?

posted by Paul Phillips
Paul,

I was merely pointing out that an attached G2G discussion was questioning Deyo's research [on the topic of this profile]. I could have been clearer in that distinction. What's being analyzed here is not Deyo as a person, but the particular theory of his that creates a line back to Pocahontas through a series of generations for which we have found very little evidence and even conflicting evidence.

Yes, I've now seen that the tribe has re-designed its web site. That was not clear earlier. It appears to be complete now and as far as I've found so far, no longer includes any of the articles written by Deyo.

I did find, through the Wayback machine, a page from the former website that compiled the text of a number (but not all) of Deyo's articles. It's here: https://web.archive.org/web/20221126115025/http://www.patawomeckindiantribeofvirginia.org/ct-menu-item-35#Wahanganochehttp://www.patawomeckindiantribeofvirginia.org/ct-menu-item-35%23Wahanganoche

It's not clear where these articles originated-- perhaps from the former (?) newsletter Patawomeck Tides? As you'll see, there are few references cited across them.

You make reference to books by Deyo that DO include references. Could you please share which titles pertain to the various profiles we've been working on here? I'm sure at least some of us would be willing to invest in them.

Many thanks.

posted by Jillaine Smith
Thank you for saying that.

I don't know what the plans are for the new website. They could be planning to backfill all the old information from the previous website, but I just don't know.

Since Bill Deyo-464 William Deyo has started his own website, billdeyo.com, it's a clue for where he and the tribe are headed. I could ask, but I'm not one to pry, so we'll have to wait and see on that count.

He's (or someone working for him) have been working on the website and a number of his books are already there. (I hope he takes my advice and puts them on Amazon too.) He has more, but he has these up thus far. I imagine they all will be in time. https://billdeyo.com/books

As far as which books/post pertain, I do have them all, but we're on the road and I don't have the books with me to comment accurately. What I recall though is that there is a lot of interplay between them as the families are all related and they're chock full of information. That said, if I were to pick one for this line, I'd start with: THE MONTEITH FAMILY AND THE POTOMAC INDIANS https://billdeyo.com/monteith-family

(The next time we stop at our home, I am going to pick them up.)

I think one thing that y'all fail to take into consideration is that Bill is a born and raised Stafford, Virginia boy. It's his home turf. He lives there. He started his genealogy research as a young man. He's been on so many boots on the ground studies, searches, interviews, digs, etc and can go right to the repository/custodians of record whenever he wants. He knows everyone there. He knows all the families and can call or visit like neighbors whenever his has a mind to. All of that is to say his background knowledge of the area alone is massive and I think leads to, perhaps, at times taking for granted what he considers common knowledge that outsiders may not entirely understand. He's a treasure and a wealth of knowledge of the area, the history and the genealogies.

posted by Paul Phillips
edited by Paul Phillips
The multiwords page is a mishmash of unsourced information. This is genealogy and it requires documentation. So as a genealogist, I'm asking what proof is there that her surname is Bryant.
Bill Deyo, Tribal Historian for the Powhatan tribe sent me to this page http://www.multiwords.de/genealogy/Ja10KeziahArroyah.html for detail on the name and history of Bryant.
posted by Robin Lee
Bryant-6506 and Bryant-76 appear to represent the same person because: these two profile represent the same person, although Elizabeth needs to be changed to Eleanor. I also believe that the surname of this person should be unknown, unless you have a source for the name Bryant. Anyway, please merge these profiles, thanks
Elinor Bryant and John Owens were married before 1626 as demonstrated in Henry Gallop's will (brother of her first husband).

Pages 63-64 WILL OF HENRY GOLLOP In the Name of God Amen, the 6th day of April in the year of our Lord God 1726. I Henry Gollop of Hanover Parish in the County of King George being in perfect mind and memory thanks be given unto God for the same but calling to mind ye mortality of my body and knowing that it is appointed for all men once to die do make and ordain this my last Will & Testament that is to say First: I revoke all other Wills & Testaments either by wrighting or otherwise which ever was made by me and this only to stand as my last Will & Testament and no other. Imprimis: 1 give and bequeath to my couzen Mary Elkens the plantation where I now live and the land belonging to it, to her and the heirs of her body forever and one Negro called Cili and one heifer to her daughter Elizabeth. Item: I give and bequeath to my cuzen Anne Gollop one plantation at the Deep Run and the land belonging to it to her and her heirs lawfully begotten forever, and one Negro called Nan and one feather bed and furniture. Item: I give to Phillis Gollop one Negro called Tom and one feather bed and furniture. Item: I give to my cuzen Elenor Gollop twenty pounds Sterling which I have now by me and please God that I rase more money before I die, I desire she may have it. And further my desire is that all my personal estate not mentioned in my Will after funeral charges and lawful debts [are] paid should be equally divded between my four cuzens and I do hereby appoint and ordain John Owens and Elenor Owens his now wife my sole and lawfull Executors. As Witness my hand and Seale His ******* Henry [H] Gollop *Seale* Mark ******* Copy Test

Witnesses Richard Owens His William [M] Owen Mark


Thomas Rallins At a Court held for King George County on Friday ye 6th day of

posted by Michael Hervey
If Elinor had children with John Owens, one or more of the dates here is off. Born in 1660, remarried at 1735... she would have been 75 when she married Owens. ?
posted by Sarah (Stephens) Kroh
The source on this page, and on many of the pages for this project is no longer a good link.
Bryant-4139 and Bryant-76 appear to represent the same person because: same mother, same name
posted by Robin Lee

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