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Ernald (Busli) de Busli (abt. 1063 - abt. 1099)

Ernald de Busli formerly Busli aka de Builli
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Died about at about age 36 in Appleby Castle, Northumberland, Englandmap
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There is a well set-out list of Roger's holdings from the Domesday Book at http://www.bowlesfamilyhistory.ca/bullyindomesday.html

Sandford appears to be Sampford Peverel in Devon (so I was wrong!) Quite a lot of the Derbyshire properties would be grouped together as the Honour of Peverel, though the family of that name didn't enjoy them very long.

posted by Geoffrey White
Thanks for such a speedy reply, Darlene.

This is what Wikipedia says of Roger: Life[edit] Roger de Busli was born in or around 1038. His surname comes from the town now known as Bully (near Neufchâtel-en-Bray, mentioned as Buslei ar. 1060, Busli 12th century.[1]) in Normandy, and he was likely born there. Busli was given lands in Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire and the Strafforth wapentake of Yorkshire. These had previously belonged to a variety of Anglo-Saxons, including Edwin, Earl of Mercia.[2]ade.

By the time of the Domesday survey de Busli was tenant-in-chief of 86 manors in Nottinghamshire, 46 in Yorkshire, and others in Derbyshire, Lincolnshire and Leicestershire, plus one in Devon. They became the Honour of Blyth (later renamed the Honour of Tickhill), and within it, de Busli erected numerous castles, at Tickhill, Kimberworth, Laughton-en-le-Morthen and Mexborough.[2]

Much of the de Busli's family's leverage came from their familial relationships with the crown through the Counts of Eu.[3] Roger de Busli's wife Muriel was in favour with the queen, to whom she was probably a lady-in-waiting or a kinswoman, evident in the queen's grant to de Busli of the manor of Sandford upon his marriage.[4] The de Buslis had one son, also called Roger, who died as an infant, thus leaving no heirs.[5] His daughter (or possibly his sister) Beatrix, (also known as Beatrice de Builli), married William, Count of Eu.

De Busli died in the last years of the 11th century without an heir. His lands were given to Robert de Bellême, who lost them in 1102 after he led a rebellion against Henry I of England. Ernulf de Busli, probably Roger's brother, may then have inherited some of the lands; these were then passed to Ernulf's son Jordan and grandson Richard de Busli.[2] Richard de Busli was co-founder of Roche Abbey, South Yorkshire with Richard FitzTurgis in 1147. The male line of the de Busli family died out in 1213, and their holdings passed into the Vipont family through the marriage of Idonea de Busli with Robert de Vipont (Vieuxpont).[6][7]


I suppose it is the fact that William of Eu's father, rather than he, was of the 1066 generation, that makes it likely that he married Roger's daughter, rather than his sister. But I can see there is some doubt as to the precise order of death of the two Rogers, Beatrice, and wretched William, who was already marked out as a traitor: they all must have died around 1100. I keep finding references to Sandford as one of the forfeited manors, either in Devon -which is a real place- or in Derbyshire, where there is no such manor; but Sandbeck, near Maltby (and possibly including the later 'ewes' land was one of the Roger's manors recovered by Richard de Busli, and given to Roche Abbey. All very complicated!

Geoffrey.

posted by Geoffrey White
British History Online gives a rather enlightening explanation of the Builly / Busli family, as noted in Thoroton's History of Nottinghamshire (1796).

https://www.british-history.ac.uk/thoroton-notts/vol3/pp352-353

You have to make allowances for 18th cent spelling as well as mediaeval forms, but it's worth it, especially in this passage:

¶(fn. 3) Thomas de Busley, 9 H. 3, claimed against Robert de Veteriponte the manor of Peverelthope, and the moyety of the manor of Turesby, whereof Vmfry de Bussey his father was seised in demesne in the time of Henry the second. Robert de Vipont, 10 H. 3, (fn. 4) answered to the like claim that he could not, nor ought to plead because the king ought to warrant him that land, and produced the charter of king John, which witnessed that he gave the said Robert that land. (fn. 5) In Easter term following Robert offered himself against Thomas de Bushey the fourth day, but he came not and was amerced, and Robert dismissed. (fn. 6) This Robert de Veteriponte married Idonia, the daughter and heir of John, son and heir of Richard, son and heir of Jordan, son and heir of Ernald, brother of Roger de Bully (or Busli) whose only son Roger died without issue in the time of Henry the first, and in her right therefore, 4 H. 3, claimed the castle and town of Tikhill against Alice countess of Augi or Ewe, who in 14 H. 3, (fn. 7) was found to be daughter of Henry, son of John, son of Henry, son of Beatrix, sister and heir of Roger de Buylly, who died without issue in the time of H. 1. But they agreed, as in Stanford upon Sore is noted, before that time by the fine in 6 H. 3, (fn. 8) concerning Tikhill castle and town, for six knights fees to the said Robert and Idonea, whereof part was in Peverelthorpe. (Footnotes:

3. Pl. de Banc. Mic: 9 H: 3, ro: 5, in dorso. 4. Pl: de Banc. Hill: 10 H:3, ro: 6: 5. Ib: Pasch: 10 H: 3, ro: 9: 6. Pl: coran: Rege Mich: 4 H: 3, ro: 1, Ebor: 7. Pl: de Banc. Mich: 14 H: 3, ro: 28, Leicest: 8. Fin: lev: Hill: 6 H: 3:)

I think, therefore, that Ernald should be shown as the younger brother of the Roger who was so generously rewarded by the Conqueror. Incidentally, while I have been researching this family as among my mother's ancestors, there is a reference in the following paragraph to Beatrice (daughter of Roger) becoming Comtesse d'Eu, or as Thorotoon puts it, 'Countess of Ewe': some of my father's forebears owned an ancient hall, turned farmhouse, near Maltby, called 'The Ewes', which now makes sense as a possession of the Counts of Eu / Ewe.

posted by Geoffrey White
From what I see, there isn't a profile created for his brother Roger, who sources say died without issue.

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