James Butler (1785)

Born 24 Oct 1785 in Bennington, Bennington, Vermont, United States

Ancestors

Husband of Lydia (Weaver) Butler — married 1810 in Clinton Co., New York [uncertain]

Descendants

Died [date unknown] in Salem Township, Steuben, Indiana, United States

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Sources

• "Vermont, Vital Records, 1760-1954," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XFN5-DBM : accessed 9 March 2015), James Butler, 24 Oct 1785, Birth; State Capitol Building, Montpelier; FHL microfilm 27,497. [1]

!BIRTH: From IGI (International Genealogical Index) version 4.01; Oakland Family History Center. Film: #451015. James Butler (m) b. abt. 1785, North Hero, Grand, Isle, Vermont. Parents: Benjamin Butler and Persis Hutchins.

Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: 7450043 0027497 Film NONE Sheet: 00 Extraction of birth information from statewide indexes for Vermont and Connecticut. The actual town records may contain more details. Use the Family History Library Catalog to find the call numbers for town records.

!WIFE'S PARENT'S INFO: From: 'History and Genealogy of a Branch of the Weaver Family', by Lucius E. Weaver, 1928; Sutro Library; #CS 71 W365 1928; pg. 127. Thomas Weaver (6); (Peter (5); Thomas (4); John (3); Clement (2); Clement (1)) was born April 2, 1756, and died in 1832. He lived in Somerset, Mass., until 1798, when he removed to Clarendon, Vt., and in 1800 he settled in Peru, N.Y., where the remainder of his life was spent. He married May 2, 1779, Hannah Law of Swanzey, Mass., b. March 20, 1759; d. Aug. 30, 1831, in Peru, N.Y. Children: 1. Hannah: b. Jan. 10, 1780; m. Luther Edwards. He was a farmer. Children (Edwards): Hiram, Anna, Hannah, Lucy. 2. PETER: b.Dec. 20, 1782. [ID # 136 in this Lucius E. Weaver book]. 3. Samuel: b. June 2, 1784; m. (1) Zillah Clark; m. (2) Betsey Hazen. He was a preacher. Children (Weaver): Asel, Louisa, Mary Ann (b. Feb. 8, 1815; d. March 29, 1869, at Saranac, N.Y.; m. March 29, 1833, Samuel Haynes, b. March 6, 1811; d. May 9, 1897. He was a farmer. Children (Haynes): Clarissa, (unm.); Amanda; Julia Ann; Samuel Weaver, (unm.); Francis Louise; Franklin Henry; Elisha Watson; Eliza; Elizabeth Zillah; Mary Ann), Joel, Henry, Franklin (m. Johanna Allen, child (Weaver): Marian). 4. Patience: b. Sept. 12, 1786; m. Solomon Clark. He was a farmer. Children (Clark): Polly, Sally, Eliza, Solomon, Silas, Harriet. 5. LYDIA: b. ?; m. James Butler. Children (Butler): Benjamin, Russell, Delia, James, Adeline. 6. Benjamin: b. Oct. 29,1796; m. Ruth Reed. He was a farmer. Children: Franklin (unm.); Lucy, b. 1825; d. 1875, (unm.); Charles, b. 1830 (unm.); Thomas (unm.) 7. Thomas: b. May 20, 1803, at Peru, N.Y.; d. there Dec. 11, 1852; m. March 2, 1826, Melinda Irish, b. Feb 12, 1801; d. May 17, 1853. He was a farmer. Children: (born at Peru): Mary, b. Jan 12, 1827; d. Aug. 20, 1847, at Saranac, N.Y.; m. John Bowers Spaulding. Children (Spaulding): Judson. Maria, b. Oct. 20, 1828, d. Nov. 20, 1902, at Peru, N.Y.; m. John Bowers Spaulding, b. Jan. 3, 1815. He was the husband of her sister Mary, deceased. Children: (Spaulding): Mary (unm.); John (unm.); Agnes, m. George Harper and had three children. Ann Eliza, b. Sept. 28, 1830; d. May 22, 1917; m. Stephen Ketchum Weaver (her cousin). No children. Lydia, b. April 10, 1833; d. Sept. 13, 1853. Elizabeth, b. April 6. 1836; d. March 20, 1887. Silas, b. Aug. 25, 1838; m. Eliza Annis, b. Dec. 11, 1840. He resides at Burke, N.Y. Children: Ella; Etta, m. David Doak; Anna, d. in infancy; Ada, m. Henry Clakins; Fred; Eva, m. Andrew Walker. Sarah, b. Oct. 9, 1841; d. June 14, 1860. 8. Anna, d. in infancy.

!1790 CENSUS: North Hero, Chittenden Co., Vermont. Roll M637-12, Image 0132, Page 163, Series: M637, Roll: 12, pg. 163. Butler, Benjamin: 2 males (>16); 3 males (<16); 2 Free white females. [Benjamin Butler would be 31 yrs. old, Persis Hutchins Butler would be 30 yrs. old, 3-4 boys under 5.]

!1800 CENSUS: North Hero, Franklin Co., Vermont. Series M32, Roll 51, pg 451. Butler, Benjamin: 2 males (<10); 3 male (10-16), 1 male (26-45), 2 females (<10), 1 female (26-45). [Benjamin Butler would be 41 yrs. old; Persis Hutchins Butler would be 40 yrs. old; James would be 15; Jesse would be 13; Lester would be 11; Daniel would be 9; Loren would be 7; Susan would be 4; Perthenia would be 3.]

!1810 CENSUS: North Hero, Grand Isle Co., Vermont; FHL 218668, (3rd Census); pg. 343. Butler, Benjamin: 1 male (10-16), 2 male (16-26), 2 males (over 45), 1 females (10-16), 2 females (16-26), 1 female (over 45). [Benjamin Butler would be 51 yrs. old, Persis Hutchins Butler would be 50 yrs. old. (James 25, & Jesse 23, probably on their own.) Daniel 22, Lester 21, Loren 17, Susan 14, Perthenia 13.]

!CENSUS-1820: US Census, New York, Clinton Co. Beekmantown, Series M33, Roll 66, Pg. 228. Butler, James: 3 males (<10), 3 males (26-45); 1 female (<10), 1 female (16-26), 1 female (26-45); 3 person in agriculture. [James Butler 35; Lydia Weaver 32. Benjamin 9, Adelia 6, Russell 4, James 0-1.]

!CENSUS-1830: US Census, New York, Clinton Co. Beekmantown; FHL 017145; pg. 195. Butler, James: 2 males (5-10); 1 male (10-15); 2 males (15-20); 1 male (40-50); 1 female (<5); 1 female (15-20); 1 female (40-50) [James Butler 45; Lydia Weaver 42. Benjamin 16, Russell 14, Delia 12, James 10, Adeline 8.]

see notes on suspect son Loren Add'l data per Barry Zbornik [iowaz@swbell.net] 1/05

FamilySearch? International Genealogical Index v5.0 North America Husband James Butler Birth: 1788 Peru, Clinton, New York (other files state born "abt 1788") Marriage: 1813 Wife Lydia Weaver Pedigree Birth: 1790 Peru, Clinton, New York Marriage: 1813 (Both the 1850 and 1880 census indicate Benjamin was born in either late 1810 or early 1811, is it possible that the marriage date for James and Lydia is incorrect? Bud) Father: Thomas Weaver Family Mother: Hannah Law Children 1. Benjamin Butler Birth: 1814 Peru, Clinton, New York 2. Russell Butler Birth: 1816 Peru, Clinton, New York 3. Delia Butler Birth: 1818 Peru, Clinton, New York 4. James Butler Birth: 1820 Peru, Clinton, New York 5. Adaline Butler Birth: 1822 Peru, Clinton, New York

Other IGI records state Benjamin, Russell, Delia and Adeline were born "of Somerset, Bristol, MA".

I do not believe the above birth years are "absolute", as the IGI file suggests, "exactly" two years between children? I suspect my estimations of the birth years of the children based on the 1820 and 1830 census are better approximations. Bud

1820 census, page 426, Beakmantown, Clinton Co., NY James Butler 300030-10110-02 3M 1775/94 (James plus 2 brothers? one named "Seth"?) F 1775/94 (wife of James - Lydia Weaver) F 1794/1804 (sister-in-law?) 3M 1810/20 (Benjimin b. 1813; Russell b. 1815/16; nephew? unknown son?) F 1810/20 (Delia b. 1814)

1830 census, page 295, Beakmantown, Clinton Co., NY James Butler 0212001000000-1001001000000 M 1780/90 (James Butler) F 1780/90 (wife Lydia Weaver) 2M 1810/15 (Bejamin b. c1813; Russell b. c1815/16) F 1810/15 (Delia b. 1814) M 1815/20 (nephew? unknown son?) 2M 1820/25 (did they have a son Loren born 10 Apr 1822, plus C.E.?) F 1825/30 (unknown daughter, already has one named Adaline/"Delia")

!CENSUS-1830: US Census, New York, Clinton Co. Beekmantown; FHL 017145; pg. 195. Butler, James: 2 males (5-10); 1 male (10-15); 2 males (15-20); 1 male (40-50); 1 female (<5 ); 1 female (15-20); 1 female (40-50) [James Butler would be ?; Lydia Weaver would be abt 38.]

1830 census, page 305, Beakmantown, Clinton Co., NY Seth Butler 1001010000000-0120001000000 F 1780/90 (wife of Seth) M 1790/1800 (Seth Butler, brother of James?) M 1810/15 2F 1815/20 F 1820/25 M 1825/30

1840 Census James and his family were enumerated in Cedar Lake, Lake County, Indiana.

Loren and Russell both came of age and left home between 1840-1850 settling in the fledging town of Berlin in Marquette (later Green Lake Co WI. Butler family tradition holds that sometime after 1840 James and Adeline, who by that time may have been the only child left at home, moved a few counties east to rejoin his brothers in Steuben Co IN. By 1850, when she was 20, Adeline was living with her sister, Adelia Parsons, in Dundee, IL.

Further proof that Seth might be the brother of James is the 1850 census for Berger Township, Genesee County, NY, page 57. Residing near each other are Benjamin (with son "Seth") and Samuel Butler

On 26 November 2002 I received the following census abstracts from Robert Kyzyzanowski : (Actually indexed under "Butter" in "Bergan" Twp. I have added incomplete data. Bud) 1850 census, Berger Township, Genesee County: dwg 773 family 882 Benjamin Butler 49 farmer $3000 NY Elizabeth Butler, wife, 38 (I believe it reads born "En" [for England?], Bud) Hannah Whittaker 49 born England John Whittaker 30 born England James Whittaker 22 born NY Seth Butler 20 laborer NY ("born Dec. 5, 1830 in Berger Twp; died 1881 Meadville, Mo") Miranda Butler 17 NY (Robert remarks: "So that Seth Butler was a son of Benjamin, not a brother of James.")

dwg 774 family 885 Sylvester Gillett (sp?) 35, mother Polly 67 and family

dwg 775 fam 886 1850 census, Berger Township, Genesee County: Samuel Butler 62 farmer Vermont Betsy Butler 62 Conn Caroline H. Hurt 23 N. York

1. Change Date: 13 Jan 2005 at 00:00:00

Father: (suspect) BUTLER b: ABT 1763 in of VT

Marriage 1 Lydia WEAVER b: 1790 in Somerset, Bristol, MA

• Married: 1813 in Peru, Clinton Co., NY

Children

1. Has Children Benjamin BUTLER b: 1811 in Peru, Clinton, NY 2. Has Children Adaline "Delia" BUTLER b: 25 Aug 1814 in VT 3. Has Children Russell BUTLER b: 1815/1816 in Peru, Clinton Co., NY 4. Has Children James W. BUTLER b: 1821/1822 in Peru, Clinton Co., NY 5. Has Children Loren (suspect) BUTLER b: 10 Apr 1822 in Peru,Clinton Co., NY 6. Has No Children C. E. (suspect) BUTLER b: 1823/1824 in prob Peru, Clinton Co., NY;of Be

1850 Census Name: Benjamin Butler Age: 62 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1788 Birth Place: Vermont Gender: Male Home in 1850(City,County,State): North Hero, Grand Isle, Vermont Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Butler 62 Celinda Butler 30 Emeline Butler 10 Eunice Butler 12 James Butler 20 Jane Butler 17 Jason Butler 25 Judson Butler 15 Orman Butler 28 Sophania Butler 53

There is a James Butler living with J. L Taylor famiy Publication Number: M653 Publication Title: 1860 U.S. Federal Census - Population Content Source: NARA Census Year: 1860 State: Indiana County: Steuben Minor Civil Division: Salem Township Page: 95

INSERT WITH THE BUTLERS AND BODLEYS OF STEUBEN COUNTY, wilson LOC 929-2 Wil History of the Benjamin Butler Family of North Hero, Vermont by Marvin B. Butler -- 1910

Our Uncle James Butler was a soldier of 1812 and his column reached Plattsburg just as the British flag went down. He married a Miss Weaver, sister of our Uncle Peter Weaver, and they had six children: Benjamin, Russell, James, Loren, Adelia, and Adaline. After the death of his wife, he remarried, and with his family moved west and located in Deep River, Ross Twp, Lake County, Indiana, about 1856. Benjamin, the oldest son, lived in Chicago several years and died there. Adelia' married a Mr, _____ of Lake County. Adeline was for several years in government, teaching in the Indian School in Minnesota. She and her school were captured by hostile Indians during the Civil War and expected brutal massacre, but before their captors could carry out their designs, they were recaptured by the U.S. Cavalry. She married one of her scholars, a half-breod Indian.

Vermont Births and Christenings, 1765-1908 for James Butler Family Search Name James Butler Gender Male Birth date 24 Oct 1785 Birth place BENNINGTON TWP,BENNINGTON,VERMONT Father name Benjamin Butler Mother name Persis Batch number 7450043 Record group Vermont-ODM Film number unknown

1836 moved to western IN following his son. Most of James’ siblings and children followed. They settled in Deep River Lake Co IN

With each move west the Butlers, like thousands of American families trod on the heels of the indigenous peoples who had inhabited the land . The Nishnabecs had been moved to Kansas just beofre the Butler’s arrived and these indians left behind cabins with brick chimneys, out buildings for stock, apple orchards, wagon roads, and hundreds of acres of fenced, cultivated fields.

My Lydia BUTLER Guynup, b a 1813, Beekmantown, Clinton County, New York, m. John Guynup, had large family in Saranac, Clinton County. Only Butler in 1820 and 30 censuses (and does have a female in household right age to be Lydia) is James Butler, b 1789-90. In 1837, he sold his land and with wife Polly disappeared. Not in 1840 census. Where did they go? Is he part of North Hero, Vermont Butler clan?

Can anyone recommend Butler genealogy that covers Vermont Butlers? (Have information from Edith Harmon book. Also have copy of small Butler genealogy pamphlet done by Marvin Butler in 1910. Covers family of Captain Benjamin Butler of North Hero (b 1759).

Linda Guynup Dewey San Francisco

There is in 1870 Census Salem Twp Steuben Co a Eliza Butler 68 b. VT living alone. wonder if she is 2nd wife of James.

Acknowledgments

Thank you to Marcia Loudon for creating Butler-4740 on 4 Aug 13. Click the Changes tab for the details on contributions by Marcia and others.