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Alice (Carew) Prater (abt. 1470)

Alice Prater formerly Carew
Born about in Wiltshire, England.map
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married before 1480 in Eton Water, Wiltshire, England.map
Descendants descendants
Died [date unknown] in Inglesham, Wiltshire, Englandmap
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Biography

Alice ( Carew ??). F, b. circa 1470 Alice ( Carew ??). Her names are from two sources,nothing to confirm either.

Carew is a Welch word meaning 'a fortification' or'a fortified house.' Gerald 'of Windsor' built a Castle in Wales in 1109 which became known as Carew Castle. This was one of his 'seats of power', for he held severial Castles by the 'grace' of the King of England. One of his grandsons, William Fitz Gerald, became the heir of Carew Castle for which his name was then 'stylized' as William de Carew. The name Carew then became the named used by his descendants. Gerald de Windsor (of Windsor) was the son of Sir Walter de Windsor and Gladys (the Princess of North Wales). Sir Walter was the son of Sir Otho de Windsor, he and his son Walter were the Constables of the Castle and Manor of Windsor. Gerald never held this title but was a highly place official in Wales for the King of England. He was known as the Kings 'Lord' in Wales. Gerald de Windsor was married to Nesta (the Princess of South Wales). This gave the King of England a unique hold over the Welch, with Gerald being of Norman/Welch desent and the Kings 'Lord' in Wales. All of these people were our grandparents though the material side of our family. George Prater of Latton,Wiltshire had included in his Coat-of-Arms the simbols of the Carew family indicating that they were from his material family.As well as established records proving the Prater and Carew connection. North and South Wales was divided by a Kingdom named 'Powys'. The Prater Coat-of-Arms also shows that another grandmother was the Princess of Powys. The 3 Wolf Heads on the lower shield are the Arms of Brockwell Yscitheor 'the Prince of Powys' --his daughter married our grandfather. The Kings of Wales claimed to be descended from great Noble Romans/Trojans.

CAREW: Descends from William de Fitzgerald (William de Carew) who was gramdson of Gerald de FitzWalter (Gerald of Windsor) who was the son of Sir Walter de FitzOthero (Walter of Windsor) who was the son of Sir Othero of Windsor (Sir Othero was a Welch / Norman adventurer from Norway) 945 A.D. to 1050 A.D. he was son of Gerald Dais Lopez of Italy and Norway. Gerald Dais Lopez descended from Cosmos Lopez of Florence, Italy.

Sir Othero and then his son Walter FitzOthero were Constables of Windsor. The seat of power in Saxon England. It is thought that these people descended from the Counts of Vermindois who in turn descended from Pepin, King of Italy and Lombardi. This stands for reason, sense they married the daughters of the Kings of North and South Wales.

Carew Castle stands today, it is currently being restored by the National Trust of England. This Castle fell into the hands of severial owners though the years and most of the information currently available for the generial public does NOT discuss the builder or Carews which held it for generations. But this information is available in the Welch historicial records. research by Gary Benton Prather

Her names are from two sources,nothing to confirm either.She made a claim for the property of Brimhill,was unable to come up with papers so lost out.GBP. She died at of Englesham, Wiltshire Co., England. She was born circa 1470 at of, Wiltshire, England. She married Williamus Prater Esq., son of William de Praers and Elezabeth (de Carew or de la Mare ??)., before 1480 at Eton Water, Wiltshire, England.

Sources

  • Research by Gary Benton Prather




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Born about 1470 and married before 1480? And she has a son born in 1466. I know a lot of dates back here are estimates, but none of those numbers work together even if you squint.

edit: And literally none of this biography has anything to do with Alice, wife of William. There is not a single primary source cited. It's just a bunch of speculation about her possible ancestors from centuries prior.

Genealogy without sources is myth. This profile looks like pure myth to me.

posted by Ashley Jones JD
edited by Ashley Jones JD
Place of death questioned? ie typo ?

There is an Inglesham, Wiltshire, England and Inglesham seen in husbands profile. Thank you for nice Biography

posted by Gregory Wood

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