Abraham A Carr (abt. 1803 - abt. 1865)

Born about 1803 in North Carolina, USA

Husband of Isabella E (DeFoor) Carr — married 6 Aug 1833 in Bibb County, Alabama, USA

Descendants

Died about 1865 at about age 62 in Alabama, USA

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Biography

BIRTH / DEATH

Abraham A Carr

Middle name possibly: Ashley, per death record of child Karron

Note: Karron's informant also says mother's maiden name is Armstrong, which is probably not accurate. But, it is possible Abraham's wife may have had a 2nd marriage.

Birth about 1803, in North Carolina, based on the following:

1) born about 1803 NC, per census in 1850, age 47

2) born about 1807 NC, per census in 1860, age 53

Death: between 1860 and 1870 census (average 1865)

Last known location: Marion Co. Alabama (1860 census)

Wife's location on next census: Franklin Co. Alabama (1870 census)

SIBLINGS

Abraham's siblings are assumed to be Mary, Matilda, & Temperance, based on:

1) Abraham, Mary, Matilda, Temperance, all married Bibb Co. AL in the 1830's.

2) Abraham Carr living 2 doors away from Mary (sister) in 1850.

3) Abraham lived next to Matilda (sister) in 1860.

4) Abraham officiated the marriages for 2 of Mary's children.

5) The marriage bondsman for Abraham Carr was Samuel DeFir.

6) The marriage bondsman for Matilda Carr (sister) was Samuel Defir.

Note: Abraham and Matilda both married into DeFir/DeFoor family.

Another assumed sibling is Charles W Carr, based on:

1) Charles purchased land in 1839 Bibb Co. AL (location of sibling's marriages)

2) Charles was the bondsman for 1839 marriage of Temperance (sister)

3) Charles Carr's 1850 census includes a Martha Carr b.1774 VA (mother)

4) Abraham Carr's 1860 census includes a Martha Carr b.1775 VA (mother)

An UNLIKELY possible sibling is Samuel W Carr (b.1823), based on:

1) Samuel moved his family from GA, to Marion Co. AL between 1850-1860

2) Samuel's marriage location & residence of GA, makes him an unlikely sibling

PARENTAGE

Father: unknown

Mother: assumed Martha, based on 1850/60 census of Abraham & Charles

Clues about Abraham's father, from his sibling's census:

1) In 1880, Charles says father born in France, and mother born in Virginia

2) In 1880, Matilda says father born North Carolina, and mother born Georgia

3) In 1880, Temperance says both parents were born in Virginia

4) In 1900, Samuel says both parents were born in North Carolina

Note: Abraham and Mary did not live to the 1880 census.

The birthplaces of the 5 siblings would indicate they were probably living in North Carolina from around 1805 thru 1816. However, this is not conclusive, as the siblings are inconstant on their birthplace.

Considering that 4 siblings married in Bibb Co. AL in the 1830's, then I would expect to see their parents in/around Bibb Co. AL on the 1830 census. The 1830 census, whether in AL or elsewhere, should have children the ages of the 4 siblings (5 siblings if including Charles). I cannot find an 1830 census to fit this criteria.

It is possible that parents were living in Mississippi on 1840 census.

1) Abraham has a child born 1840 in Mississippi.

2) Martha (mother) was in 1850 Mississippi, with Charles (brother)

Some genealogies hypothesize that Felix Carr is the most probable father.

I assume this is based on Felix's 1820 census in Charleston, South Carolina.

This 1820 census has 5 children the ages of "our" assumed 5 siblings.

It appears this is the same Felix Carr who has 1822 Letters of Administration in Charleston SC, which names his widow Martha.

Felix appears to have no other connections, besides children the same age, and a wife named Martha.

MARRIAGE

FamilySearch.com, Alabama, County Marriages, 1809-1950

Name: Abraham A Carr

Spouse: Isabella Defir

Bond Date: 5 Aug 1833

Marriage Date: 6 Aug 1833

Marriage Place: Bibb County, Alabama

Performed By: N Tabor J.P [some have transcribed as "H" Tabor]

Note: the Marriage Bond appears to be co-signed by Samuel DeFir

WIFE

Isabella E DeFir, daughter of John Defir

Alternate spellings: DeFoor, Defur, DeFere

Research to confirm parents, has not yet been completed.

Birth estimated about 1816, based on the following:

1) born 1816 GA, per census in 1850, age 34

2) born 1816 SC, per census in 1860, age 44

3) born 1815 AL, per census in 1870, age 55

4) born 1812 GA, per census in 1880, age 68

Death: cannot locate after 1880

Last known location: Franklin Co. AL (1880 census)

PRIMITIVE BAPTIST PREACHER

Abraham's 1860 census has occupation "Primitave B.P."

Abraham officiated marriages for children of his sister Mary.

The evidence of these marriages are in the Widow Pension Files of

1) Charles H Armstrong (son of Mary Carr), widow Jincy M Green.

2) David Burlason, widow Matilda Armstrong (dau of Mary Carr).

Minutes From the Buttahatchie Association

http://www.primitivebaptist.org

MINUTES OF THE TWENTY-EIGHTH ANNUAL SESSION OF THE BUTTAHATCHEE ASSOCIATION OF PRIMITIVE BAPTISTS

Began and held with Mount Joy Church, Marion Co. Ala, on the 7th, 8th and 9th days of October, 1853

1st The Introductory Sermon was preached by Elder A.A. Carr from the 4th chapter and 25th verse of Paul to the Romans; “Who was delivered for our offences and was raised again for our justification.

2nd The delegates assembled in the house and organized by singing and prayer by the Moderator.

3rd Called for and read the letters from the several churches and enrolled the delegates names:

Forks of Buttahatchee (Marion Co AL) – A.A. Carr, E.S. Dotson, Calvin Burleson

[there are many other delegates, but I only listed the ones from Forks of Buttahatchee]

CENSUS / TIMELINE

1833: marriage of Abraham A Carr and Isabelle Defoor, in Bibb Co. AL

1837: purchased 41.19 acres in Hale Co., Alabama

1840 Census: Winston, Mississippi, p.7 -- NOT VERIFIED --

Name: N A Carn [A A Carr]

1 - Males - 30 thru 39:

2 - Females - Under 5:

1 - Females - 20 thru 29:

Persons Employed in Agriculture: 1

Total Free White Persons: 4

1850 Census: District 14, Marion, Alabama, family#281

A A Carn ................. 47 ... NC ... farmer

Isabella Carn ......... 34 ... GA ... cannot read/write

Nancy Carn ............ 13 ... AL

Martha A Carn ....... 11 ... AL

Amanda Carn .......... 9 ... MS <------- [living in Mississippi in 1841]

Temperance Carn ... 7 ... AL

James P Carn ........... 5 ... AL

Matthew W Carn ..... 3 ... AL

Carn H Carn ......... 4m ... AL

1850 census notes:

Living close to family#283: Joseph Armstrong 53, Mary 43 (sister of Abraham)

Notice that Isabella's brother Samuel also had a single child born MS, while others born AL

1857: purchased 121.86 acres in Marion Co., Alabama

1860 Census: Chalk Bluff, Eastern District, Marion, Alabama, family#706

A A Carr ....................... 53 ... NC ... Primitave B.P. ... personal estate $300

Isabella Carr ............... 44 ... SC ... cannot read/write

Nancy Carr .................. 24 ... AL ... cannot read/write

Amanda Carr .............. 19 ... MS

Temperance Carr ....... 17 ... AL

James P Carr ............... 14 ... AL

Mathew W Carr .......... 12 ... AL

Kerenhappuch Carr ... 10 ... AL

David P Carr ................. 7 ... AL

Martha Carr ................ 85 ... VA ... [mother]

1860 Census Notes:

Living next to Isabella's brother: John Defurr age 43, w/wife Matilda 40 GA

186x: death of husband Abraham A Carr

1870 Census: Burleson, Township 7 Range 14, Franklin, Alabama, #86

Ibba E Carr ........ 55 ... AL ... cannot read/write ... personal estate $200

Caroah H Carr .. 19 ... AL ... cannot read/write

David P Carr ..... 18 ... AL ... cannot read/write ... works on farm

Nancy E Carr .... 20 ... AL ... [wife of David]

1870 census notes:

Living close to family#80: son: Matthew W Car 22, w/wife Nancy 21

Living close to family#81: daughter: Anamda Boggs 29, w/husband James 37

Living close to family#82: son: James P Carr 24, w/wife Anna 24

1880 Census: Franklin, Alabama, family#70

James P. Carr ..... 34 ... AL,NC,GA ... farmer

Anna Carr .......... 34 ... AL,__,__

Isabella Carr ..... 68 ... GA,__,__ ... cannot read/write, mother, widowed <---

Margaret Carr .. 10 ... AL,AL,AL ... attends school

William D Carr .... 8 ... AL,AL,AL ... attends school

Ida Carr ............... 5 ... AL,AL,AL

John A. Carr .... 6m ... AL,AL,AL

AGRICULTURAL CENSUS

1850:

Ancestry.com. U.S. Federal Census Non-Population Schedules, 1850-1880

Name: A A Carr

Location: District 14, Marion, Alabama, USA

Enumeration Date: 27 Nov 1850

Schedule Type: Agriculture

Value of farming implements and machinery: $10

Value of live stock: $80

Value of animals slaughtered: $50

Value of homemade manufactures: $25

Animals: 1 horse, 2 milk cows, 5 cattle, 18 swine

Bushels of Indian corn: 100

Bushels of sweet potatoes: 40

lbs of butter: 20

1860:

Ancestry.com. U.S. Federal Census Non-Population Schedules, 1850-1880

Name: A A Carr

Location: Eastern District, Marion, Alabama, USA

Enumeration Date: 26 Jul 1860

Schedule Type: Agriculture

Value of farming implements and machinery: $10

Value of Live Stock: $200

Value of animals slaughtered: $35

Value of homemade manufactures: $150

Animals: 1 horse, 3 milk cows, 1 oxen, 5 cattle, 7 swine

Bushels of Wheat: 3

Bushels of Indian corn: 300

Bushels of Peas and Beans: 25

Bushels of Irish Potatoes: 5

Bushels of Sweet Potatoes: 100

lbs of tobacco: 40

bales of ginned cotton (400 lbs each): 3

lbs of wool: 10

lbs of butter: 75

LAND TRANSACTIONS

Ancestry.com. U.S. General Land Office Records, 1796-1907

Name: Abram A Carr, of Bibb County, Alabama

Issue Date: 15 May 1837

Acres: 41.19

Meridian: St Stephens

County, State: Hale, Alabama

Location: Township 21-N, Range 5-E, Section 2

Document Number: 9067

Ancestry.com. U.S. General Land Office Records, 1796-1907

Name: Abram A Carr, of Marion County, Alabama

Issue Date: 2 Apr 1857

Acres: 121.86

Meridian: Huntsville

County, State: Marion, Alabama

Location: Township 10-S, Range 13-W, Section 13

[and Township 10-S, Range 12-W, Section 18, per government record]

Land Office: Huntsville

Document Number: 19675

PIRTLE/PURTLE family connections

George Purtel purchased 1837 land in same one-mile-square area as A A Carr.

George Purtle/Pirtle, married Sally KERR, on 19 Oct 1820 in Bibb Co. AL.

Lawrence CARR Pirtle, son of George Purtle and Sally KERR.

Lawrence CARR Pirtle, living 1850 Itawamba Co. MS, close to Charles W Carr.

Reference the following land purchases in 1837 Hales County, Alabama.

http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/search/

Carr, Abram A, 5/15/1837, #9067, 41.19 acres, 021N 005E SW¼SE¼ 2

Purtle, George, 8/1/1837, #10812, 82.38 acres, 021N 005E E½SE¼ 2

Purtle, Thomas J, 11/2/1837, #12215, 41.19 acres, 021N 005E NW¼SE¼ 2

Note: Hale County did not exist until 30 years AFTER these land transactions.

Hale County was created in 1867 from Greene, Marengo, Perry, and Tuscaloosa counties. In 1867, Hale and Bibb are bordering counties.

Thomas J Purtle is ?brother of George Purtle.

Thomas J Purtle, m.1833, Bibb Co. AL, to Mary Ann DeFir (sis-in-law of A A Carr)

Samuel Defir was the marriage bondsman for the Thomas J Purtle marriage.

Samuel Defir was the marriage bondsman for the Abraham A Carr marriage.

Sally Kerr (or CARR) is probably related, but not sure how.  

More research is required.

The marriage folder for Sally & George consists of 5 pages.  See FamilySearch.  One of the pages mentions "Orphans Court".  This would imply that Sally was under age 21 when she married, and her father was not living in 1820.  It would also stand to reason, that Sally was living with her mother and siblings in/near Bibb Co. AL in 1820.

Notice that Bibb County was not created until 1822, which makes it difficult to research. Cahawba was Alabama's state capital in 1820, and is the county named on the marriage documents.

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