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Charles W Carr (abt. 1805 - aft. 1880)

Charles W Carr
Born about in North Carolina, USAmap
Son of [father unknown] and
Husband of — married about 1866 [location unknown]
[children unknown]
Died after after about age 75 in Marion Co., ALmap [uncertain]
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Biography

BIRTH / DEATH

Charles W Carr
Birth estimated about 1805 NC, based on the following:
1) born 1807 NC, per census in 1850, age 43
2) born 1810 NC, per census in 1860, age 50
3) born 1805 TN, per census in 1870, age 65
4) born 1805 TN, per census in 1880, age 75
Death: cannot locate after 1880 census
Last known location: Marion Co. Alabama (1880 census)
Find A Grave Memorial# 62169198 (no picture, no sources, no burial location)

MARRIAGE

1st Marriage:
Charles Carr's 1850 and 1860 census indicates he may have had a 1st marriage.
It is unknown if Margaret and Polly are names of wife(s) or daughter(s) or other.
Charles is living next to a George M Carr in 1850, who is correct age to be son.
-IF- George is a son of Charles, then Charles' 1st marriage on/before 1822.
2nd Marriage:
Groom: Charles W Carr
Bride: Arvazena Loden (widow Stanford)
Married between 1862 and 1870.
Arvazena's 1st husband, James C Stanford, Civil War record; Pvt Co H 26th Ala.
Record shows James C Stanford died 21 May 1862, and widow named Arvazena.
The 2 children on 1870 & 1880 census are from Arvazena's 1st marriage.
Reference Arvazena's 1860 census with husband James C Stanford and daughter Columbia.
Specific spelling of "Arvazena", based on her signature on husband's Civil War record.

SIBLINGS

Charles' siblings assumed to be Abraham, Temperance, Mary, and Matilda:
1) Charles was the bondsman for marriage of Temperance Carr (sister)
2) Abraham, Temperance, Mary, Matilda, all married Bibb Co. AL in the 1830's.
3) Charles had land purchase in 1839 Bibb Co. AL (location of sibling marriages)
4) Charles' 1850 census includes a Martha Carr b.1774 VA (mother)
5) Abraham (brother) 1860 census includes Martha Carr b.1775 VA (mother)
6) Abraham (brother) is living 2 doors from Mary (sister) in 1850.
7) Abraham (brother) is living next to Matilda (sister) in 1860.
8) Abraham and Matilda, both married into DeFir/DeFoor family.
9) Abraham (brother) officiated the marriages for 2 children of Mary (sister).
An UNLIKELY possible sibling is Samuel W Carr (b.1823), based on:
1) Samuel moved his family from GA, to Marion Co. AL between 1850-1860
2) Samuel's marriage location & residence of GA, makes him an unlikely sibling

PARENTAGE

Father: unknown
Mother: assumed to be Martha, based on 1850 census of Charles.
Clues about Charles' father, from Charles and his siblings:
1) In 1880, Charles says father born in France, and mother born in Virginia
2) In 1880, Matilda says father born North Carolina, and mother born Georgia
3) In 1880, Temperance says both parents were born in Virginia
4) In 1900, Samuel say both parents were born in North Carolina
Note: Abraham and Mary did not live to the 1880 census.
The birthplaces of the 5 siblings would indicate they were probably living in North Carolina from around 1805 thru 1816. However, this is not conclusive, as the siblings are inconstant on their birthplace.
Considering that 4 siblings married in Bibb Co. AL in the 1830's, then I would expect to see their parents in/around Bibb Co. AL on the 1830 census. The 1830 census, whether in AL or elsewhere, should have children the ages of the 4 siblings (5 siblings if including Charles). I cannot find an 1830 census to fit this criteria.
It is possible that parents were living in Mississippi on 1840 census.
1) Martha (mother) is in 1850 Mississippi, with Charles.
2) Abraham (brother) has a child born 1840 in Mississippi.
Some genealogies hypothesize that Felix Carr is the most probable father.
I assume this is based on Felix's 1820 census in Charleston, South Carolina.
This 1820 census has 5 children the ages of "our" assumed 5 siblings.
Felix appears to have NO connection, other than children the same age.

CENSUS / TIMELINE

1839: Charles W Carr, purchased 39.85 acres in Bibb Co. Alabama
1840 ???
1850 Census: District 7, Itawamba, Mississippi, family#271
Charles Darr ......... 43 ... NC ... shoe maker
Martha Darr ......... 76 ... VA .... [assume mother]
Margaret Darr ...... 25 ... NC ... [not sure if wife or daughter]
1850 census notes:
Transcription error; surname is CARR.
Living next to family#272, George M Carr age 28 AL, Arminda 27 AL.
Also note a John Defer & Matilda [CARR] living in Itawambu Co. MS.
Note: Itawamba MS and Marion AL, are bordering counties.
1860 Census: Haleyville, Eastern District, Marion, Alabama, family#667
Charles Carr ........... 50 ... NC ... farmer ... personal estate $75
Polley A Carr .......... 38 ... TN ... [not sure if wife or daughter]
1860 census notes:
Living in same dwelling as Berey B Flowers 33 TN, Fanny Flowers 32 TN
Living close to family#663: John Armstrong 56 NC, Eliza 52 GA
186x: marriage to 2nd wife Arvazena Loden, sometime between 1862-1870
1870 Census: Pikeville, Western District, Marion, Alabama, #853
Charles W Carr ......... 65 ... TN ... farmer ... cannot read/write
Arbasena Carr .......... 45 ... AL ... [2nd wife]
Caroline Carr ............ 14 ... AL ... [step-daughter]
Sallie Carr .................... 8 ... AL ... [step-daughter]
1880 Census: Beat 11, Marion, Alabama, #8
Charls Carr ................ 75 ... NC,France,VA ... minengitis
Arbazine Carr ............ 56 ... AL,VA,SC ... [2nd wife]
Columbia Stanford ... 22 ... AL,AL,AL ... step-daughter
1880 census notes:

LAND TRANSACTIONS

Ancestry.com. U.S. General Land Office Records, 1796-1907
Name: Charles W Carr
Issue Date: 20 Sep 1839
Acres: 39.845
Meridian: St Stephens
County/State: Bibb County, Alabama
Location, Township: 24-N, Range: 10-E, Section: 28
Land Office: Tuscaloosa
Document Number: 22274
http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/search/
Carr, Charles W, 9/20/1839, Bibb AL, 39.84 acres, 024N - 010E NE¼SW¼ 28
Note: close to assumed brother-in-law (husband of Mary Carr).
http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/search/
Armstrong, Joseph, 9/20/1839, Bibb AL, 39.95 acres, 024N - 008E SW¼NW¼ 23
Armstrong, Joseph, 9/20/1839, Bibb AL, 80.03 acres, 024N - 008E E½SE¼ 22
Armstrong, Joseph, 9/20/1839, Bibb AL, 39.95 acres, 024N - 008E NW¼SW¼ 23

GEORGE M CARR

George is NOT confirmed as son of Charles, but he is living next door in 1850.
George is borderline too old to be son of Charles.
It is also possible that George may be brother or nephew of Charles.
More research is required.
GEORGE:
1841 marriage: George M. Carr, Lucy Ann Brown, 4 Dec 1841, Itawamba, MS
........ not likely unless Lucy is a 1st wife
1850 census: Itawamba, Mississippi, George M Carr 28 AL, Arminda Carr 27 AL
........ living next to Charles Carr age 43 NC
1860 census: Attala, Mississippi, George M Carr 38 AL, Arminda Carr 36 GA
1870 census: Attala, Mississippi, G M Carr 48 AL, A Carr 47 MS
1880 census: Attala, Mississippi, G.M. Carr 58 AL, Arminda Carr 57 AL
Note: Full name George Miller Carr, per land transaction in 1846

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