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Ancell Carter (bef. 1591 - bef. 1661)

Ancell "Ansyll, Anscell, Ancel, Ansell" Carter
Born before in Kempston, Bedfordshire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 2 Jul 1618 in Watton At Stone, Hertfordshire, Englandmap
Died before at about age 69 in London, Englandmap
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Biography

Ancell, Ansell, Ansyll, or Ansyle Carter, (AKA "William Ancell" usedonly by the Mourning Carter Walker Family Bible). Ancell had a brother named William - apparently two different men.

Origin

Ancell Carter was baptized on October 28, 1591 at Kempston, Bedfordshire, England, son of William Carter and Mary Anscell, "of Kimpson who settled in London."[1][2][3] His was a family of good standing, educated and influential. This is borne out by his son's acceptance in the best society in Virginia.[2]

Name

The first name is spelled Ancell in the extract of his (probably) baptism, published as Genealogia Bedfordiensis; being a collection of evidences... (mainly parish registers and Bishops Transcripts) (p v),[1] Ansyle in The Visitation of London ..., but the informant is named as Ansell in the same pedigree![4] and spelled Anscell by Tyler[5] and Ansell in his will.

Only the Mourning Carter Walker Family Bible used the name "William Ancell Carter." This would seem to be the same person listed as baptized on Oct 28, 1591 at Kempston as son of William Carter and listed by Miller as the thirteenth child (of seventeen) of William Carter and Mary Ancell, spelled "Ancel" and italicized (as if he had copied the spelling, but unfortunately he did not share his source). The birth date, October 28, 1591, is given in both. This was the date of his baptism. Thereafter, Miller used the spelling "Ancell."[2]

There is also a record for a Thomas Carter who was christened on 11 Oct 1605 at Marston-Moretaine, Bedford, England, the son of William.[6] Unclear how this record might be associated with Ancell Carter, as his son named Thomas was born c. 1630,[2] but it is sometimes cited in reference to this family.

Marriage and Children

The Mourning Carter Walker Family Bible reports that "Anscell" married July 2, 1618 in Rampton, Bedfordshire, England to Jane Myles. There is no such place in Bedfordshire. But there is a marriage of Ansell Carter and Jane Miles at Watton at Stone, Hertfordshire on 2 Jul 1618 [7]She is shown to be the daughter of John Myles of Graveley in Com. Hertford,[5]per the pedigree in The Visitation for Hertfordshire, in 1634.[5] Ancell, as "Ansyle," is called "of London grocer" in The Visitation of London ...[4]

According to Joseph Miller, in 1634 at the visitation of the Heralds from the College of Arms, "Ansyll, of London, Grocer," had six sons living.: George, John, Ansyle, William, James, and Thomas.[2] Miller believes this son Thomas was the immigrant to Virginia, but there may be no documentation to proving this. But the Visitation only shows four sons, not six. George, John, Ansyle and William, plus a daughter Jane.

According to Miller, children were:[2]

  1. George Carter, eldest son
  2. John
  3. Ansyle
  4. William
  5. James
  6. Thomas b ca 1630

According to Tyler, children of Anscell and Jane Myles:[5] The Visitation of London, Anno Domini 1633, 1634, and 1635... confirms this, showing the four sons and one daughter, but no Thomas.[4]

  1. George
  2. John
  3. Anscell
  4. Will'm
  5. Jane

Tyler identified Thomas, who was 1 year old at the Visitation at Hertfordshire England in 1634.[5] To be thorough, mention is made that the generation prior where The Visitation mentions only two of seven known sons.[4]

Immigrated to Virginia

Unclear whether Ancell came to Virginia and patented land (?) [citation needed] As there is no evidence at all that he went to Virginia it's difficult to provide a citation proving a negative. In his 1558 will he decribed himself as "Citizen and Grocer in Fleet Street London".He was a party, as Ansell Carter, in a litigation in London in 1647 [8], and in another as Anselm in 1656 although this may have been his son[9]

Death

Ancell Carter's will was dated 5 Nov 1658 and was probated September 3, 1661 the same day as his son George Carter's will was probated, so he died between these two dates[10] See son George Carter for property owned and other family members.

Alternatively, according to the Mourning Carter Walker Family Bible, Ancell died in 1634 at Kempston, Bedfordshire, England.[11] Possibly he did not immigrate, or he returned to England and died there.

Research is needed concerning possible immigration and place of death.

Alternate death date September 5, 1644 at Kempston, Bedfordshire, England (without citation).There is no burial in Kempston parish register for him in either 1634 or 1644 or at Lancaster, Virginia. But how about London where he had a grocers shop? Very few people who die in 1634 or 1644 make wills in 1658!


Research Notes

The "Mourning Carter Walker Family Bible" should be viewed with caution, especially in regard to the earlier entries. James Turner Walker was born in 1795.[12][11]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Page-Turner, Frederick Augustus, Genealogia Bedfordiensis; being a collection of evidences relating chiefly to the landed gentry of Bedfordshire... (Page 158) London: Priv. print. Chiswick Press, 1890, Archive.org accessed December 17, 2015
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 Miller, Joseph L., The Descendants of Capt. Thomas Carter of "Barford," Lancaster County, Virginia with Genealogical Notes of Many of the Allied Families , (Page 2), Thomas, WV, J.L. Miller, 1912, Archive.org accessed October 17, 2015
  3. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NB98-SWL : accessed 14 Oct 2014), Ancell Carter, 28 Oct 1591; citing KEMPSTON,BEDFORD,ENGLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 845461.
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 St. George, Henry, The Visitation of London, Anno Domini 1633, 1634, and 1635... (Volume I, Page 142) London: 1880, Archive.org accessed December 20, 2015.
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 Tyler, Lyon G., Genealogies of Virginia Families, (Page 333, chart) from Tyler's Quarterly Historical and Genealogical Magazine, Genealogical Publishing Companies, Web accessed September 2, 2014
  6. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NDHZ-82S : accessed 15 December 2014), Willm. Carter in entry for Thomas Carter, 11 Oct 1605; citing Marston-Moretaine, Bedford, England, reference ; FHL microfilm 1,066,927.
  7. "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N28N-G55 : 12 March 2020), Ansell Carter, 1618.
  8. https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=ansell%20carter&_dss=range&_sd=1580&_ed=1670&_hb=tna
  9. https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_dss=range&_sd=1580&_ed=1670&_q=anselm+carter
  10. National Archives Will of Ancell Carter Grocer of London. September 3, 1661. PROB 11/305/325.
  11. 11.0 11.1 Mourning Carter Walker Family Bible in possession of Agnes Elizabeth Walker Day
  12. Family records of James Turner Walker and Mourning Carter (ca. 1795-1922) WorldCat.com.

See also:

  • England Marriages, 1538–1973 database, FamilySearch, Ansell Carter and Jane Miles, 02 Jul 1618; citing Watton At Stone,Hertford,England, reference ; FHL microfilm 991,344.
  • Ancestry Family Tree

DNA

Parental relationship is suggested with an AncestryDNA test match between Jessie (McKinney) Fleeman and Thomas Anderson 10th cousins twice removed. Predicted relationship reported by AncestryDNA: 4th to 6th cousins based on sharing 32 centimorgans shared across 2 DNA segments
Parental relationship is suggested with an AncestryDNA test match between Jessie (McKinney) Fleeman and Judy Anderson 10th cousins twice removed. Predicted relationship reported by AncestryDNA: 4th to 6th cousins based on sharing 30 centimorgans shared across 1 DNA segment
Parental relationship is suggested with an AncestryDNA test match between Jessie (McKinney) Fleeman and Janice (Anderson) Hobson 10th cousins twice removed. Predicted relationship reported by AncestryDNA: 4th to 6th cousins based on sharing 26 centimorgans shared across 2 DNA segments
Parental relationship is suggested with a 7.6 cM match between Betty Litton GEDmatch A409140 and Thomas Anderson GEDmatch A486051 12th cousins on:
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Its important to remember they didn't use middle names in England prior to 18th century.

Many trees use William Ancell Carter for this person. The person who married Mary Anne Emmery was a William who married her February 21, 1627 in Arlesey Bedfordshire this marriage record is attached to Ancell Carter this profiles son and still wrong because it was a William Carter's marriage

posted by [Living Daly]
Thanks. I will make corrections
posted by Paula J
I'm sorry but ive only found one marriage and that's for Jane Miles in Watton at stone, Hertforshire and that far fectch from the original that was stated in Bedfordshire. The records of the Chidren including marriage are very concise. For instance Ursula/Ursely, William's daughter didn't marry Edward Dillingham in Leicestershire. She Married William Paly Kempstone Bedfordshire October 26, 1614.
posted by [Living Daly]
His birthdate is less than 9 months from his brother, Robert's.
posted by Paula J
Eric,

Did this guy only have one wife?

posted by Paula J
Ancell Carter married Jane Miles July 2, 1618 in Watton At Stone, Hertfordshire.

England Marriages, 1538–1973 database, FamilySearch, Ansell Carter and Jane Miles, 02 Jul 1618; citing Watton At Stone,Hertford,England, reference ; FHL microfilm 991,344.

posted by [Living Daly]
This Ancell Carter married only to Jane Myles.

Which Ancell Carter married to Mary Ann Emmery? Thanks!

posted by Cynthia (Billups) B
Appears the "Mourning Carter Bible" is less reliable in regard to the earlier generations. It is the only source which gives the name as William Ancell. All others use some various spelling of Ancell only.

In addition, the use of the "middle name," William causes only confusion, between this and the earlier generation, and between this and the younger brother, named William.

posted by Cynthia (Billups) B

Rejected matches › William Carter Sr. (abt.1599-1655)

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